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[Combichristoffersen]

Did heroes come out before SA2 battle? Metal sonic was in that

SA2 Battle was released before Heroes. Was he an enemy in the main story, or just an unlockable character?

 

[TheOGB]

But Metal was actually prevalent in Heroes


still sucked

 

[Drkirby]

Metal Sonic had nothing to do with the plots of Sonic Adventure 1 or 2.

Also, Heroes was boring.

 

[QisTopTier]

SA2 Battle was released before Heroes. Was he an enemy in the main story, or just an unlockable character?

Just unlockable in the race mode or someshit. At least that's all I've seen him in, I didn't actually play SA2 B

 

[Professor Beef]

Heroes isn't even close to Sonic 06 levels. I'd say Chaotix is worse.

 

[Combichristoffersen]

Just unlockable in the race mode or someshit. At least that's all I've seen him in, I didn't actually play SA2 B

Oh, alright. Heroes did bring him back as an antagonist in the main story though.

Game was still boring rubbish.

Heroes isn't even close to Sonic 06 levels. I'd say Chaotix is worse.

Chaotix is shite too. I honestly don't know which one of them is worse.

 

[Anth0ny]

Heroes isn't even close to Sonic 06 levels. I'd say Chaotix is worse.

Agreed.

 

[qq more]

Wait, are you guys saying Chaotix is worse than 06 or just worse than Heroes? If the former: Sure it's a bad game but... at least it didn't feature bestiality and its soundtrack is A-Tier.

 

[Professor Beef]

Wait, are you guys saying Chaotix is worse than 06 or just worse than Heroes? If the former: Sure it's a bad game but... at least it didn't feature bestiality and its soundtrack is A-Tier.

Chaotix is worse than Heroes. I don't consider Heroes a bad game at all, but it's also not a great game either.

 

[Combichristoffersen]

Wait, are you guys saying Chaotix is worse than 06 or just worse than Heroes? If the former: Sure it's a bad game but... at least it didn't feature bestiality and its soundtrack is A-Tier.

Worse than Heroes (personally I think they're about equally terrible). I don't think there's anything that will ever top Sonic '06, not even Sonic Blast for the Game Gear. Goddamn was that game awful.

 

[qq more]

Chaotix is worse than Heroes. I don't consider Heroes a bad game at all, but it's also not a great game either.

I think both are pretty bad. Such a shame though

Worse than Heroeds (personally I think they're about equally terrible). I don't think there's anything that will ever top Sonic '06, maybe except for Sonic Blast for the Game Gear. Goddamn was that game awful.

Nah, Blast may look awful (I recently watched a playthrough of it) but at least the game doesn't even last 1 hour. Is it me or is every level... extremely short? lol

 

[Professor Beef]

I think all the Game Gear games are pretty fucking terrible, if we're counting those. Heroes looks like Generations compared to them.

 

[qq more]

I think all the Game Gear games are pretty fucking terrible, if we're counting those. Heroes looks like Generations compared to them.

Hey, don't diss Triple Trouble!

It'd been so much better if it was a SMS game though for the sake of better resolution :\

 

[Dark Schala]

I think all the Game Gear games are pretty fucking terrible, if we're counting those. Heroes looks like Generations compared to them.

Even Triple Trouble?

 

[Combichristoffersen]

Nah, Blast may look awful (I recently watched a playthrough of it) but at least the game doesn't even last 1 hour. Is it me or is every level... extremely short? lol

Yeah, I edited my post. Blast looks awful, sounds awful and plays awful, but I guess it'll never be quite as bad as Sonic '06.

I think all the Game Gear games are pretty fucking terrible, if we're counting those. Heroes looks like Generations compared to them.

Sonic 1, 2, Chaos and Triple Trouble are great, but the Master System versions are far superior to the GG ones.

 

[qq more]

I'm very curious to try out Sonic Blast now. It's one of the few 2D Sonic games I've never played.

 

[MAtgS]

Even Triple Trouble?

That should get the Metal Sonic treatment on the 3DS version, a boss to make up for the lack of a full level.

 

[Combichristoffersen]

I'm very curious to try out Sonic Blast now. It's one of the few 2D Sonic games I've never played.

You're better off not playing it, I'd say, as the only reason to play it is to experience how shitty it actually is. It was Sega's extremely half-assed attempt to make a Sonic game with graphics similar to the Donkey Kong Country games that were released for SNES at the time, but for some inexplicable reason they decided to have Aspect develop it for the Game Gear (it was later ported to the Master System by TecToy and released in Brazil).

 

[Professor Beef]

Even Triple Trouble?

Especially Triple Trouble! But ESPECIALLY Sonic 2.

 

[The Xtortionist]

Sonic 1, Chaos, and Triple Trouble were all OK when I played them. Decent for handheld games.

But real men played S3&K on their Sega Nomad lololololol

 

[Kunai]

Just heard Door into summer remix.... OOHHHH My... simple amazing

 

[Y2Kev]

Wow, I played the demo and both acts were really fun. Game looks amazing and sounds great.

Is it time to believe?

 

[TheOGB]

Gave in and started listening to music

Spoiler

Egg Dragoon

is pretty underwhelming now that it's no longer fully orchestrated, Super Sonic Racing is growing on me, but autotune can GTFO

holy goddamn, Sonic Battle remix

Classic Speed Highway, I like

Planet Wisp...... why the synth, it was perfect already
EDIT: Classic... what the fuck???? Seriously, just redoing the Simulator version would have been fine. It's really different at first, but I already feel myself getting used to it. Very final level-ish, as someone said earlier.

 

[Teknoman]

Wow, I played the demo and both acts were really fun. Game looks amazing and sounds great.

Is it time to believe?

Believe.

 

[royalan]

wow, I don't think I've been this hyped for Sonic in a while...

The level of detail in the art of some of those stages is insane...

 

[Sciz]

Spoiler

Egg Dragoon

is pretty underwhelming now that it's no longer fully orchestrated

There isn't a single live instrument in the original version. Kobayashi has some great samples and he knows how to use them. The remix is pretty badly mastered though, yeah.

 

[The Xtortionist]

There isn't a single live instrument in the original version. Kobayashi has some great samples and he knows how to use them. The remix is pretty badly mastered though, yeah.

I'd be surprised if the original version isn't selectable. They aren't skimping on tracks

 

[SuperAngelo64]

People don't like Chaotix? What the fuck is this shit?!

I thought it was universally well-liked?!

Granted there were...way...way too many stages, it was still a good and solid concept and well executed.

Fun characters, great visuals, amazing soundtrack.

'the hell, GAF.

 

[Sciz]

People don't like Chaotix? What the fuck is this shit?!

I thought it was universally well-liked?!

Granted there were...way...way too many stages, it was still a good and solid concept and well executed.

This is the bit we disagree on. The level design is wretched.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

People don't like Chaotix? What the fuck is this shit?!

I thought it was universally well-liked?!

Granted there were...way...way too many stages, it was still a good and solid concept and well executed.

Fun characters, great visuals, amazing soundtrack.

'the hell, GAF.

 

[SuperAngelo64]

I hate you all

This is the bit we disagree on. The level design is wretched.

Really? I mean the level design is more 'tricky' than your typical Sonic game, but that's because you're supposed to be creative with the ring gimmick and your character-of-choice's special ability.

 

[LeonSKennedy90]

Ya know what game has terrible level design?

Sonic CD

 

[Azure Dream]

People don't like Chaotix?

it was still a good and solid concept and well executed.

The concept of a co-op Sonic game is ok. The execution was awful. I can't count the number of times the rubber-banding screwed me over, and the levels were designed with this in mind, with prizes in "mid deck" levels that you usually overshot.

 

[iavi]

Wow, I played the demo and both acts were really fun. Game looks amazing and sounds great.

Is it time to believe?

It's hard to believe, I know, but yes. It's time.

 

[Anth0ny]

Chaotix level design was bruuuuuuuuuuuuuutal

and this is coming from a guy who is fine with Sonic 06.

 

[Demon Lizardman]

Just heard the time eater music, what do you guys think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cUSGyOav60&feature=channel_video_title

 

[The Xtortionist]

Just heard the time eater music, what do you guys think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cUSGyOav60&feature=channel_video_title

Should have been Sonic Boom

 

[SuperAngelo64]

Chaotix level design was bruuuuuuuuuuuuuutal

and this is coming from a guy who is fine with Sonic 06.

I just played this game all day yesterday... I don't know what you guys are talking about. Can you be more specific?

 

[AwakenedCloud]

In my current state of hype for this game I decided I'm going to do two runs before I get my hands on this game.
Granted it doesn't rain, tomorrow's challenge is a 15 mile endurance run at an 8mi/hr. pace. On release day, I'm doing 5K(3.2 mi) speed run on Tuesday. Hopefully the hype will let me get sub 18 minutes for that.


Last week I even bought a Sonic shirt from the kids section of walmart (amazed I can still fit into a kids XXL at 21). I'll be wearing this baby around campus come 11/1/11!

 

[RC]

Really didn't like the demo. Classic Sonic felt way too floaty. Didn't feel like I had any control after jumping on top of an enemy.
Modern Sonic was a different type of mess all together. The constant change in perspectives was really off putting. Kept on making me miss jumps and homing attacks.
This game is definitely not for me.

 

[Lijik]

I just played this game all day yesterday... I don't know what you guys are talking about. Can you be more specific?

Yeah, can someone explain this?

I dont think the non-special stage portions in Chaotix are particularly good, but jesus christ its not 06 or even Heroes bad. Its just a boring and clunky platformer thats not particularly difficult and even less so if you decide to learn how to handle the clunky team mechanic (which I admit isn't a good use of time).

 

[Demon Lizardman]

Here's the time eater cutscene, major fucking spoilers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHvq8tCljS0&feature=channel_video_title

 

[Box of Bunnies]

Its just a boring and clunky platformer thats not particularly difficult and even less so if you decide to learn how to handle the clunky team mechanic (which I admit isn't a good use of time).

Sounds like Heroes.

 

[Professor Beef]

My will is strong. My will is strong. I will not click that link.

 

[Lijik]

Sounds like Heroes.

Heroes has extremely long stages with poor checkpointing, three of them dedicated to a game function which barely works (rail grinding), and the game is riddled with enough small bugs (like killing every enemy for a Chaotix mission and the game not registering it as completed) that a single playthrough becomes a chore.

Let alone four which is what the game expects you to do.
In the time it takes to beat Chaotix and proceed to let it out of your life you're not even halfway through a single team of Heroes.

 

[george_us]

Man I can't believe Hydrocity and Ice Cap got the shaft but freaking Sky Sanctuary of all zones got in.

Still debating on whether to get this or not. I've already got Uncharted 3 on pre-order but man watching videos of Green Hill Zone takes me back. God that tune is so good.

 

[qq more]

Chaotix level design was bruuuuuuuuuuuuuutal

and this is coming from a guy who is fine with Sonic 06.

Brutal? It's one of the easiest Sonic games ever. :|

People don't like Chaotix? What the fuck is this shit?!

I thought it was universally well-liked?!

Granted there were...way...way too many stages, it was still a good and solid concept and well executed.

Fun characters, great visuals, amazing soundtrack.

'the hell, GAF.

I like it but only for the nostalgia and awesome music. The special stage was cool too. Other than that, it's not really a good game due to shitty level design and poorly implemented co-op system. The game was very interesting though.

 

[Sciz]

I just played this game all day yesterday... I don't know what you guys are talking about. Can you be more specific?

It's been a while, but I remember it being gimmicky in all the wrong ways. You've got the rubber band mechanic, a variety of characters, an array of quirky monitors, and the level gimmicks on top of everything else. None of them actually work together in a complimentary fashion, when they work well at all. The band gets in the way at least as often as it helps and the characters aren't balanced in the slightest (and they're semi-randomized as well).

The levels themselves are all themed around one specific idea and nothing else (This is the vertical zone! This is the fast zone! This is the zone where the bloody lights are out and you have to go on a scavenger hunt before you can leave). What ideas they do have get stretched out and repeated over five acts.

I'd have to go back and give it a good play to put together detailed thoughts, but in general it needed another six months in the cooker and a thorough reevaluation of the various mechanics.

 

[The Xtortionist]

Cash Cash are SSS-tier if they did Planet Wisp Classic. Immaculate song.

 

[Shadowlink]

Who here on GAF finished Green Hill Zone the fastest with Classic Sonic? My time is 0:54:36.