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Sonic Lost World Review Thread [Embargo Ends: Oct. 18th, 4:00 AM EDT]
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Magicpaint
Member
Just watched some gameplay videos of the 3DS version and it looks and sounds incredibly half-baked. I guess with how the 3DS Sonic games have been selling well despite being hack jobs, Sega just doesn't care about quality. Dimps should have made Rush 3 instead.
The WiiU version seems decent, though.
The WiiU version seems decent, though.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
The definition of all over the place.
Mango The Magician
Banned
So you can parkour up the trees...?
Another bad Sonic game?
hmmmmmmmmmmmm
IGN's review is crap and I'm saying that confidently as someone who is acknowledging the flaws this game has. There are better negative reviews to read than one that is mostly complaining how it isn't like they expected.
Neuromancer
Member
From the Joystiq review
That's silly. The Labyrinth Zone was a great change of pace.
MrSaturn99
Member
Yeah. There are some iffy spots in the video, but the ten minutes I watched looked pretty fun. I got a huge kick out of the cutscene, too (love those classic spinning flowers!).
What the heck, I'll probably go for it.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I agree
The original Sonic was great until the second level, get it right, Joystiq
Gunstar Ikari
Unconfirmed Member
Can't you just run up the trees normally? Adding boost pads is redundant.
And then there's that boost pad -> tree -> spring on the treetop segment when you could just jump over the gap normally.
kunonabi
Member
i feel similar to the complaints about the difficulty and lives. people have bitched endlessly about that in the mario games and now they complain when Sega actually makes them matter again.
Aaron Strife
Banned
Reviewers suck at Sonic games and take it out on the games.
See "Sonic was never good even in the Genesis days" bullshit narrative that's come about recently.
Sonic has definitely needed more platforming, but unfortunately it doesn't appear that's what this game has done. The levels look very poorly designed and are bogged down in a haphazard assortment of adventure style tedious things to do. It's like the copied they bad parts of 3D Mario and married it with bad level design.
The level design kinda reminds me of like a 3D representation of Sonic CD's level design philosophy.
Sonic Team is a team of extremes.
They make Sonic games where the platforming is just pressing the homing attack button at the right time.
"We want more precision platforming!"
And then they make a game where Sonic slowly bounces on small square clouds over a bottomless pit with a Windows desktop in the background. Yeah, that's what people wanted.
Sonic Generations was already at a happy medium, maybe they could have had a bit more platforming, worked on the physics, but Lost World just looks like a lot of tedium. Some of the level design looks good, but then you have stuff like the bouncing on clouds, kill all enemies, collect butterflies, lure fruit to juicers... The wisps look worse than they were in Colors. Still springs and speed boosters everywhere.
The level design kinda reminds me of like a 3D representation of Sonic CD's level design philosophy.
Sonic Team is a team of extremes.
They make Sonic games where the platforming is just pressing the homing attack button at the right time.
"We want more precision platforming!"
And then they make a game where Sonic slowly bounces on small square clouds over a bottomless pit with a Windows desktop in the background. Yeah, that's what people wanted.
Sonic Generations was already at a happy medium, maybe they could have had a bit more platforming, worked on the physics, but Lost World just looks like a lot of tedium. Some of the level design looks good, but then you have stuff like the bouncing on clouds, kill all enemies, collect butterflies, lure fruit to juicers... The wisps look worse than they were in Colors. Still springs and speed boosters everywhere.
Stephen Stills
Member
AwakenedCloud
Member
I agree with him that Labyrinth Zone is by far the weakest zone in the original. The level design was uninspired and the boss battle at the end is pretty awful.
Don't be silly, the game is fine and is a real joy to play sure it's has it flaws but nowhere the reviewers are making it out to be.
Reviewers are always wrong when it comes to reviewing Sonic games, especially IGN how they did the review for Sonic Unleashed HD.
Which is why I have learnt to ignore them long ago.
I agree with that, though I loved the game at the time, replaying it recently made me realize the 1st level was great, the rest not so much.
Magicpaint
Member
Definitely. I always dread it when I replay Sonic 1.
Reviews are all over the place, but based on the stream I watched the game is too so I guess thats kinda fitting haha
I cant believe people are complaining about the music in this stage? Its not the best but I was expecting crazy bus levels of bad the way some of ya'll were talking about it. You guys do know its not like a game without having to shit over every aspect to prove it, right? That shits childish
They did, its called Sonic Colors DS
I cant believe people are complaining about the music in this stage? Its not the best but I was expecting crazy bus levels of bad the way some of ya'll were talking about it. You guys do know its not like a game without having to shit over every aspect to prove it, right? That shits childish
They did, its called Sonic Colors DS
I've been thinking this ever since Colors. There's been too many negative reviews that are negative for off-base reasons.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Sonic 1 was the first video game I ever played, so I have a lot of nostalgia for it, but honestly after the first level its a pretty mixed bag. Sonic 2 fulfills a lot of the promise in the first game, but I think it gets worse as it goes along, with the last 1/3rd being pretty frustrating. Sonic 3 and Knuckles is about as close to perfection they got with the formula, top to to bottom a fantastic video game that I still pull out to play once a year on my old Genesis, right up there with DKC2 and Rayman Origins for my favorite 2D platformers. Probably in my top 10 favorite games, honestly.
Sonic 1 had some good ideas at the center of it, but I always felt the later Genesis games were what Sonic 1 was suppose to be.
There is also a manual people can read. So I don't see why anyone should have trouble with any controls unless the manual of all things doesn't include any information which is doubtful. Though I wouldn't be surprised if some reviewers outright ignored it. If the game doesn't properly explain things that's a fault with the game however that's not an excuse to not properly learn the controls as there are still ways of learning what button do what no matter what.
It's been like this since 2006. We had one disaster and now Sonic has to jump every hurdle to be good in peoples eyes now, I guess.
I'm pretty sure it was who directed that game, Shun Nakamura. He hasn't directed a Sonic game since, and for good reason.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
Yeah, the game is best at the beginning.
Yeah i think its too Mario-esque too, but people labeling it "horrendous"? Get outta town with that, the songs decent, heres horrendous.
Coffee Dog
Banned
Reviews are fucking all over the place, some love it, some hate it, sounds like a modern sonic game
Just wait for user impressions and make your own judgement call
Just wait for user impressions and make your own judgement call
The reviews are all other the place. It's going to be one those games where you need to play it yourself to see where you stand. I think Destructoid's review see understands why some like the game and other's don't.
I'm interested to play the game as I have been one of those that have advocated that sonic games are suppose to be platformers, not gloried time trials.
I'm interested to play the game as I have been one of those that have advocated that sonic games are suppose to be platformers, not gloried time trials.
DarkCronos
Member
I review the game (Wii U version) for my website (italian only, sorry guys) and gave it an 8. It's a solid, fun and engaging platform, that dares to revolutionize some of the fundamentals of Sonic games (slowing down the gameplay actually was a very good move). It still lacks the brilliance of Nintendo's platformers, but it's a solid foundation for future Sonic games.
A collegue of mine reviewed the 3DS version and gave it a 6.5. He felt it was underbaked and with a chaotic direction.
A collegue of mine reviewed the 3DS version and gave it a 6.5. He felt it was underbaked and with a chaotic direction.
the 3ds game should have been a 2d affair, if only to avoid complete direct comparisons with the wii u game. like when you get bounced to the next area in the wii u game, you're actually hitting those jump pads/bounce pads or whatever. in the 3ds game, you hit just one and then it's the same image of sonic flying through the air as it loads the next sequence. confusing as to why they did they felt the two games had to be similar but different.
I have to disagree with a lot of you. The original Sonic the Hedgehog is fantastic from beginning to end. Really, I love all the zones in that game. Its sequel, on the other hand, has a solid first half but inconsistent second.
I disagree. Metropolis gets a lot of flak for how long and challenging it is, but once you get a feel for how the enemies operate, it can be pretty fun. And I love Oil Ocean.
The worst level is Sky Fortress (Or whatever it was called); too much platforming over bottomless pits.
Holy shit, people really say that?
Hyperactivity
Banned
I want more platforming in Sonic. Slow down.
I want more on-rails and SPEED in Sonic
They just can't win.
All the good reviews like that its more platforming LIKE the ORIGINALS.
All the bad reviews are complaining about speed
I want more on-rails and SPEED in Sonic
They just can't win.
All the good reviews like that its more platforming LIKE the ORIGINALS.
All the bad reviews are complaining about speed
Nowhere Man
Member
Pretty wide range of scores there. I've never been a Sonic fan, I've tried over the years but the only time I ever actually enjoyed one was the night stages of Unleashed. That said Lost World looks pretty fun, I'll give it a go when I eventually get a Wii U.
XANDER CAGE
Member
I think I'll still at least check it out. I'm more interested in a polarizing Sonic game than one that just gets 6s and 7s across the board.
Yep.
I don't know what to say about this all. Lost World looks interesting enough even now that I will get it and play it to make my own opinion. All the same, it kinda sucks that Sonic Team couldn't knock one right out of the park with this one. I also hope they don't abandon some of the mechanics and design they've put into place for this one. Refine it more.
I can't help but feel like these scores are so harsh because it's a 3D Sonic game and thus because it's mediocre and not like Generations or Colors, it somehow falls to being just as bad as Shadow or Sonic '06. Which to me sounds all kinds of wrong, but that's the impression you get with some of these scores (mostly the lower ones). And we know it's not the kind of technical and broken mess that Sonic '06 is.
I haven't had the time to read the written text of these reviews in particular but I did scan through Jim Sterling's and his sounded to be like the perfect criticism for the game. A mediocre Sonic game that can be used to be improved upon via a new game.
I'm not sure if I have the money to pick it up day 1 but I'll keep my eye out for GAF impressions post-release and make my decision from there.
I haven't had the time to read the written text of these reviews in particular but I did scan through Jim Sterling's and his sounded to be like the perfect criticism for the game. A mediocre Sonic game that can be used to be improved upon via a new game.
I'm not sure if I have the money to pick it up day 1 but I'll keep my eye out for GAF impressions post-release and make my decision from there.
Gunstar Ikari
Unconfirmed Member
That's the thing about Sonic; everyone has a different speed-to-platforming ratio that they feel that the games should be at. The folks who believe that speed is Sonic's defining trait might prefer the Boost Trio to Lost World, the folks who don't really care about speed will probably prefer Lost World, others might think that Generations is too fast and Lost World is too slow.