The way the Wii U is tanking, it might be time for the old handheld/home console convergence talk to start being considered more seriously. They've got the wireless streaming tech to do it down cold, it's just a matter of working out the power/price/size balance. And then convincing people to buy a Nintendo tablet with buttons that doesn't run anything the Android tablet they've already got can.
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The way the Wii U is tanking, it might be time for the old handheld/home console convergence talk to start being considered more seriously. They've got the wireless streaming tech to do it down cold, it's just a matter of working out the power/price/size balance. And then convincing people to buy a Nintendo tablet with buttons that doesn't run anything the Android tablet they've already got can.
I do like that some companies are starting to join with the mobile side instead of fighting it. MS may be going a wee bit overboard on it (not every game needs a smartglass app, ffs), but using companion stuff on mobile to promote the console/portable side is a sound plan.
It's funny how even The Pokemon Company agrees with this. Pokedex app on iOS, TV show app on Android. And Nintendo had absolutely nothing to do with either one.
It's funny how even The Pokemon Company agrees with this. Pokedex app on iOS, TV show app on Android. And Nintendo had absolutely nothing to do with either one.
Yeah, not only has mobile gaming exploded since the the beginning of the generation but Steam has really hit it big, and indie gaming. Never a dull moment in a technology-related industry.
I'm sorry, but even with the Wii U tanking as hard as it is, the hybrid idea still kills a revenue source and could potentially fuck the company if it fails. I wish an industry business person like John Harker would touch on why its a poisonous position. It's a dumb theory I wish would stop being brought up.
No offense to you, of course.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I've kinda stopped reading Nintendo threads in-full since 2012, so someone has to enlighten me on this hybrid thing.
Wii U = part handheldish in a sense (off tv mode and gamepad and all)
Therefore next gen console should be a handheld hybrid of some sorts
I think it sounds cool but way too risky and I don't think it will happen.
Oh, it's dangerous, of course, and Nintendo's probably more willing to eat a loss on further home systems than to kill the line entirely given the choice. I'm not sure investors are willing to give that to them, though, and both markets have changed enough that I'm not as certain it's a completely stupid idea anymore. It's been the joke that you buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games since the N64, but it's finally getting to the point where that's all but true. They're never getting the AAA market back, the AA market's all but dead, and the indie boom is largely passing them by. They'll probably reach profitability on the Wii U at some point, but what do they do next? The Wii's extraordinary success was an outlier on their downward trend and gambling on recapturing the magic isn't a sustainable long term strategy. It also doesn't help that they've never been quite able to sustain both sides of the company at once on their own in the absence of third party support, although they're at least trying to fix that by starting new teams and doing more outsourced work.
So... I dunno. They certainly want to keep both if they can, but they're going to have a hell of a time getting their home systems back on track, and I'm not sure the opportunity cost of doing so is really worth it.
Sucks to be Iwata right now.
The industry is cyclical, as long as any one of the big 3 keep their head above water they'll be able to press on. Nintendo doesn't have any other divisions, so they have to be about profit, which, even with the monolithic failure of the Wii U so far, they seem to be doing.
They'll get there. They're just not playing smart right now. And yeah, I wouldn't want to be Iwata at the moment.
They'll get there. They're just not playing smart right now. And yeah, I wouldn't want to be Iwata at the moment.
Professor Beef
Banned
I bet IwataBeef is having a field day.
It's been almost two months now since I ordered Tales of Innocence R... today was the end of the estimated delivery range :\
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It's... it's been almost two months?
Damn, time sure flies. Every time I think back I seem to be flying through the years faster. And I'm only in my 20s.
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It's... it's been almost two months?
Damn, time sure flies. Every time I think back I seem to be flying through the years faster. And I'm only in my 20s.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Where did you order it from? It shouldn't really take that long... unless you chose an ultra-slow shipping speed.
A seller with a good reputation through Amazon. Must have been "international standard", which is 21-42 business days. The other option was like $50+ if I remember correctly, and I'm a cheapass so I didn't want to spend more money on the shipping than the actual game.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
How much did you pay for it on Amazon, out of curiosity?
Because Play-Asia had the budget version for this much + free shipping. That's where I ended up getting it from. Alternatively, Amiami and CDJapan.
Shadow Hog
Member
At least I'm not the only one who's noticing the months flying by, now that I'm spending my days in a cubicle instead of attending classes.
$43 including shipping. I haven't heard of those last two sites, thanks for the link.
Tell me about it. Once I started working the time has just blazed by. When it hit me that most of my friends from school have already gotten married and started a family... wow. Feels like yesterday we were all in college or trying to find our first jobs.
Metroid Blast campaign mode multiplayer > all
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
While SA is open, I poked around the iOS game LP thread before falling asleep. I'll update the SA LP thread later on with this, but...
(Meccanical, this is for you. Watch this, please.)
I'll probably stick some of the older iOS LPs in that thread later like Rockman xover, Shaq Down, and Mega Man X iOS (I played this; it is shit. don't buy this, pls). I feel bad I never added these to the thread despite watching them back when they were put up.
(Meccanical, this is for you. Watch this, please.)
I'll probably stick some of the older iOS LPs in that thread later like Rockman xover, Shaq Down, and Mega Man X iOS (I played this; it is shit. don't buy this, pls). I feel bad I never added these to the thread despite watching them back when they were put up.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Play Final Fantasy XIV people...or at least when they open up more servers.
Professor Beef
Banned
Maybe when they include Blue Mages.
I actually stumbled on these videos through Youtube a few months ago. Good videos, horrible games.
Here's what I commented on the Xover video...
Blew my mind that a Mega Man game could have such brain-dead, shallow, pointless gameplay.
I mean, damn. At least All the Bravest has some fanservice, almost half-decent presentation and classic music. What does Xover have going for it?
edit: haha, he did a video on Sonic Dash and Hedgehog Dash, the ripoff posted about in this thread a few days ago.
tiggerkiddo
Member
You should just get off the computer and go outside, time away from the internet will soothe the soul.
tiggerkiddo
Member
There's nothing around me trees and some houses...
Beats getting annoyed with random strangers you might never meet. Life is too short for that.
Those people actually think screeching like a chimpanzee in front of a camera every day for the amusement of dumb children is living the dream, huh. I dunno, even my lazy ass always wanted to make something I could be proud of. ¯\_(ツ
_/¯Dunno if you all have seen this yet, but apparently I was wrong. Apparently shadow isn't the infinitely better mod for generations for the PC there is a an Infintely betterer mod. qq more's gonna love this mod.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Ha, I'll add that too. I noticed it in the thread OP, but my eyes drifted down to the other videos and I was all, "Oh yeah, these old things that I never linked! Haaaaaa."
That Rockman xover video is atrocious. There is legitimately no sense of progression in that game. Stats don't matter, what you do doesn't seem to matter, there is no freaking music (WTF), it's jarring seeing the gameplay stop whenever you get something collectable in the middle of the level, bosses are effing skippable, all of the stages look boring as hell (but heck, MMX iOS looked boring as hell when I played it)...
Kusoge.
Those people aren't really aware that SA exists and pioneered the current/original video/text LP format and set rules in place in order to make their playthroughs solid and easy to listen to/easy to read.Those people actually think screeching like a chimpanzee in front of a camera every day for the amusement of dumb children is living the dream, huh. I dunno, even my lazy ass always wanted to make something I could be proud of. ¯\_(ツ
It's just interesting to see Let's Play overall attributed to YouTube when in reality, people ended up adopting the format and putting their spin on it... to... varying results. At least we have Retsupurae to sort out the shit from the decent, but lordy, it boggles my mind at how LPs have gotten such a poor reputation on account of people who legitimately don't do it correctly like PDP, DSP, etc. I like informative LPs. That's what I go to LP videos and the SA LP forum for. If it's a game I haven't played to death, I like learning more about it because generally those LPs are well-researched or they have a lot of humour throughout the playthrough.
And fuck, I have zero idea how PDP got so popular with his rape jokes / constant screaming and shouting and making a spectacle out of himself. LPs were never ever designed to be around the personalities discussing the game, though that's generally a plus when you genuinely make yourself likeable and easy to listen to. They were designed around discussing the game at hand and sharing the information you know about it + possibly playing it well. Not... promoting your personality to the point where the game you're playing is secondary to the show you're trying to put on.
PhantomOfTheKnight
Member
Sonic Generations and All Stars Racing Transformed are $6 each for Steam via Amazon. Have no idea how long this deal lasts, though.
Tizoc
Member
Technically yes, on Amazon it is cheaper by $1.50 from the last steam sale.
Greenmangaming had 4-pack for $15 some time ago too.
EDIT: My purchases from yesterday, all for around $100 (BI is a used copy)
Meccanical
Member
>_<
Professor Beef
Banned
I'm pretty jealous of PDP, to be honest. That much money for just screaming into a camera? Dude is living the dream.
lol @ "wanting to make something you're proud of." That's just as bad as claiming everyone who hates PDP is jealous.
lol @ "wanting to make something you're proud of." That's just as bad as claiming everyone who hates PDP is jealous.
I don't get it. What's exactly bad about wanting to be proud of my work? I care a lot for the shit I actually put effort into.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
The condescension that's going on with respect to LPs kind of makes me chuckle.
"Why would you want to watch someone play a video game?
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I watch some of you play video games all the time, and I like that some of you watch me play video games, too. There's legitimately nothing wrong with watching someone good at a game showing off a game that they like and actively having a conversation about the game when the person is playing it. I dunno. It's the equivalent of watching TV for me sometimes. I don't watch TV anymore outside of sports and the news, so walkthroughs/playthroughs/LPs are a source of entertainment for me, and they feature people who are good at a game and I like watching the game in action. *shrug*
"Why would you want to watch someone play a video game?
I watch some of you play video games all the time, and I like that some of you watch me play video games, too. There's legitimately nothing wrong with watching someone good at a game showing off a game that they like and actively having a conversation about the game when the person is playing it. I dunno. It's the equivalent of watching TV for me sometimes. I don't watch TV anymore outside of sports and the news, so walkthroughs/playthroughs/LPs are a source of entertainment for me, and they feature people who are good at a game and I like watching the game in action. *shrug*
The condescension that's going on with respect to LPs kind of makes me chuckle.
"Why would you want to watch someone play a video game?"
Yeah I don't get those kind of comments. It's neat watching LPs with very informative commentary on good games and hilarious LPs riffing on bad games. And sometimes it's just plain fun watching people play.
By the way, tiggerkiddo. About Ratchet & Clank HD Collection... I just realized that was what I bought my brother last Christmas. I'm borrowing it from him now.
Professor Beef
Banned
Because it implies that PDP isn't proud of something he made.
I don't recall saying he's not proud of his work (I feel bad for him in that case then). But if you like putting words in my mouth then so be it.
I'd rather be proud with work that took actual fucking effort.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
My favourite SonicGAF playthrough is always going to be Beef's Majora's Mask stream.
Professor Beef
Banned
Yes, because all the money and fame and fans he has are somehow disqualified because you think he's not putting any "real effort" into what he does.
You are such a child.
Hot Coldman
Banned
edit: oh I figured it out and god this is one conversation I don't wanna be part of.
Schala, tell them to shut up, you're better at it than me.
Schala, tell them to shut up, you're better at it than me.
Professor Beef
Banned
If the shoe fits...
tiggerkiddo
Member
QQ, about that going outside and getting away from the computer bit...
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