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Holy Shit at the Jetzons track haha. At least now whenever 'which 16-bit music is best' topics come up I have more fuel for my 'this ost was made into genuine popular music' argument. Amazing how artists of the time actually recognized and appreciated the quality of the music, even if they did write it themselves. Just the fact that they took it seriously enough to make music they would use themselves is wonderful as games were still seen as kid's toys back then. Pretty funny how this is like a 1 to 1 copy of the Icecap music though.
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SonicGAF's Song of the Day - #48
Song: Ice Cap Zone Act 1
Game: Sonic & Knuckles Collection
Composer: Masaru Setsumaru, probably
I was gonna sit on this one until winter rolled around, but after last night's news, it got bumped to the front of the queue.
At this point I'm pretty sure that when they were replacing songs for this version, they had an explicit goal to make the new tracks sound as little like the old ones as possible. They're both crisp, wintery themes, but the similarities end there. The new one's more of a snow level than an ice level, thin as the line between the two is. It also comes off as being kind of unfinished, as the background chimes play an endless, unchanging loop and the melody abruptly cuts out at 0:48, which emphasizes the repetitive nature of the background all the more. Act 2 comes off even worse, with the percussion being thrown in more or less at random. Act 1's pleasant while it lasts, though, and it makes better use of General MIDI than the shaky conversions that constitute the rest of the soundtrack.
BlazeHedgehog
Member
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
He should be putting his review up soon. Last I saw, he was editing it all up. Edit: And he ninja'd me.
(He doesn't think much of it, based on his stream, this, this, and this.)
I remember him ranting about the 3DS version for a little bit.
I think I get trapped by some sort of perfectionism in me because I'm so used to working in an academic sense so everything has to be perfect. Sometimes I even avoid using the first person and just use "the player" because I'm so used to writing academically that I just can't make writing impressions wholly about me. So they end up being semi-reviews like Time and Eternity, Ocarina of Time 3D, Hakuoki, and Rhythm Thief. But they aren't entirely super-formal (the OoT one is probably the most formal one I've written up here, I think).
There's one review I haven't posted on GAF at all because it's way too long, but my FF13 review was something that basically tore the game apart and my writing style wasn't even that great. If I recall correctly, it was lengthy and very... unrefined (ie: one of the subtitles was "Is a Story Supposed to be a Dance of Nouns Accompanied by an Encyclopedia?"). Going through that review right now, I was probably so irritated because I'd written it right after I'd finished the game.
For example:
A small fraction of Schala's FF13 review said:
When I'm angry, I get really really fucking wordy. And I don't think I agree with some of the stuff in a major way I said in the past. A lot of the stuff I wrote about the battle system is basically me deconstructing two premises put forth by people who like CSB, and I don't like CSB that much. Despite writing up ways to take enemies down quickly and proficiently while detailing how rankings work, I find the system flawed, but I don't think I ever wrote the reasons why I, myself, find the system flawed. I merely deconstructed arguments people put forth.
I... think that might also factor into the reasons why I do try to go in-depth as opposed to talking about what I thought of the game or try to make it sound like I'm thinking like an 'outsider', I guess? I dunno. I probably shouldn't do that since that isn't the type of audience I'm writing for, but I'm so used to writing like that that I can't help it sometimes.
Since you mentioned it, I went back to read your Uncharted 2 review (I haven't played the game yet despite half of GAF nagging me to play it.
). I do find it interesting that you didn't seem to think much of the characters, since the characterization is something that people give the Uncharted games a ton of credit for. You gave it a fairly high grade on the AniHawk scale, too. Though since you wrote your thoughts on TLOU in the same thread and gave it a higher grade, I guess you liked that one a lot better. I should really try to find all of my impressions that I posted on GAF and keep them in a doc so I know what I wrote impressions for and what I didn't.
I stopped at the gyro boss in Silent Forest and decided that I'd had enough. That snowball bit in Frozen Factory was absolutely absurd, too. I've dropped it for now, but that's only because I was getting tired of playing games I don't like.
You're a stronger person than I am.
PhantomOfTheKnight
Member
So Mario and Sonic Sochi Olympics released in Europe last week and failed to chart. Those games usually make mad money for SEGA and Nintendo... this is bad.
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
He should be putting his review up soon. Last I saw, he was editing it all up. Edit: And he ninja'd me.
(He doesn't think much of it, based on his stream, this, this, and this.)
I remember him ranting about the 3DS version for a little bit.
I think I get trapped by some sort of perfectionism in me because I'm so used to working in an academic sense so everything has to be perfect. Sometimes I even avoid using the first person and just use "the player" because I'm so used to writing academically that I just can't make writing impressions wholly about me. So they end up being semi-reviews like Time and Eternity, Ocarina of Time 3D, Hakuoki, and Rhythm Thief. But they aren't entirely super-formal (the OoT one is probably the most formal one I've written up here, I think).
There's one review I haven't posted on GAF at all because it's way too long, but my FF13 review was something that basically tore the game apart and my writing style wasn't even that great. If I recall correctly, it was lengthy and very... unrefined (ie: one of the subtitles was "Is a Story Supposed to be a Dance of Nouns Accompanied by an Encyclopedia?"). Going through that review right now, I was probably so irritated because I'd written it right after I'd finished the game.
For example:
When I'm angry, I get really really fucking wordy. And I don't think I agree with some of the stuff in a major way I said in the past. A lot of the stuff I wrote about the battle system is basically me deconstructing two premises put forth by people who like CSB, and I don't like CSB that much. Despite writing up ways to take enemies down quickly and proficiently while detailing how rankings work, I find the system flawed, but I don't think I ever wrote the reasons why I, myself, find the system flawed. I merely deconstructed arguments people put forth.
I... think that might also factor into the reasons why I do try to go in-depth as opposed to talking about what I thought of the game or try to make it sound like I'm thinking like an 'outsider', I guess? I dunno. I probably shouldn't do that since that isn't the type of audience I'm writing for, but I'm so used to writing like that that I can't help it sometimes.
Since you mentioned it, I went back to read your Uncharted 2 review (I haven't played the game yet despite half of GAF nagging me to play it.
I should really try to find all of my impressions that I posted on GAF and keep them in a doc so I know what I wrote impressions for and what I didn't.
I stopped at the gyro boss in Silent Forest and decided that I'd had enough. That snowball bit in Frozen Factory was absolutely absurd, too. I've dropped it for now, but that's only because I was getting tired of playing games I don't like.
You're a stronger person than I am.
Could you find the rest of the XIII review you wrote? I actually found that excerpt to be a good read.
He should be putting his review up soon. Last I saw, he was editing it all up. Edit: And he ninja'd me.
(He doesn't think much of it, based on his stream, this, this, and this.)
I remember him ranting about the 3DS version for a little bit.
I think I get trapped by some sort of perfectionism in me because I'm so used to working in an academic sense so everything has to be perfect. Sometimes I even avoid using the first person and just use "the player" because I'm so used to writing academically that I just can't make writing impressions wholly about me. So they end up being semi-reviews like Time and Eternity, Ocarina of Time 3D, Hakuoki, and Rhythm Thief. But they aren't entirely super-formal (the OoT one is probably the most formal one I've written up here, I think).
There's one review I haven't posted on GAF at all because it's way too long, but my FF13 review was something that basically tore the game apart and my writing style wasn't even that great. If I recall correctly, it was lengthy and very... unrefined (ie: one of the subtitles was "Is a Story Supposed to be a Dance of Nouns Accompanied by an Encyclopedia?"). Going through that review right now, I was probably so irritated because I'd written it right after I'd finished the game.
For example:
When I'm angry, I get really really fucking wordy. And I don't think I agree with some of the stuff in a major way I said in the past. A lot of the stuff I wrote about the battle system is basically me deconstructing two premises put forth by people who like CSB, and I don't like CSB that much. Despite writing up ways to take enemies down quickly and proficiently while detailing how rankings work, I find the system flawed, but I don't think I ever wrote the reasons why I, myself, find the system flawed. I merely deconstructed arguments people put forth.
I... think that might also factor into the reasons why I do try to go in-depth as opposed to talking about what I thought of the game or try to make it sound like I'm thinking like an 'outsider', I guess? I dunno. I probably shouldn't do that since that isn't the type of audience I'm writing for, but I'm so used to writing like that that I can't help it sometimes.
Since you mentioned it, I went back to read your Uncharted 2 review (I haven't played the game yet despite half of GAF nagging me to play it.
I should really try to find all of my impressions that I posted on GAF and keep them in a doc so I know what I wrote impressions for and what I didn't.
I stopped at the gyro boss in Silent Forest and decided that I'd had enough. That snowball bit in Frozen Factory was absolutely absurd, too. I've dropped it for now, but that's only because I was getting tired of playing games I don't like.
You're a stronger person than I am.
I dunno about what AniHawk specifically thinks, but the general consensus is that the story and characters of TLoU are better than Uncharted 2 or any Uncharted. I agree with that assessment as well. And the gameplay is better. A kind of evolution of the work they did with Uncharted. I'm sure JC can back me up on this as I know he likes it.
Love Ice Cap Zone 1. One of the best Sonic songs, period. I always thought this was an MJ composed track?
The audience for the game is not there. I bet the Wii _____ games will underperform too.
Meccanical
Member
Well he was never officially credited for Sonic 3 so...eh.
We're talking about the Sonic and Knuckles Collection song. Although if you want repetition look no further than the original Ice Cap 1.
I kinda like S&KC version but it always felt out of place for the snowboarding section at the beginning.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Sonic and Knuckles Collection had different music swapped in for Ice Cap, Carnival Night, and Launch Base.
I don't like any of them, really. Samples and composition are just straight-up weird in some of them. Carnival Night Act 2 sounds okay, actually, from what I can remember. Launch Base feels so dissonant because it sounds too 'happy'. I think I have the disc lying around somewhere.
Ice Cap Act 1 itself is eh, but man that MIDI. That neverending loop of that one melody that Sciz talked about completely sticks out to me every single time I listen to the track to the point of just being indifferent to the track altogether. I don't know if it's the mixing or what, but I can't even pay attention to the main melody at all after listening to that.
I do have it in Google Docs right now, but I'd have to remove the bulk of HTML in there. I read through it earlier, and I am pretty disappointed with the final product. I also think I wouldn't agree with some of the stuff I'd originally written, because I don't hate the game. I find it average, but the tone of the review sounds too harsh for it. Because I was writing for people who like reading numerical scores (ie: my undergraduate peers interested in the game), I'd originally given it a 3/5. And that's the score I'm still sticking with it. The review itself doesn't sound like a 3/5. It sounds like a 2/5 or a 2.5/5. Either way, since people have asked for it in the past, I'll take the tags out and post it as-is despite it kind of being pretty awful.
That's why now, before I even write impressions in detail, I take a little bit to internalize the game before actually writing anything. I'll write points as to what I liked/didn't like, but I won't fully write anything unless I'm positive I can be a little more neutral about it.
Well, AniHawk's review is here. He highlighted that the design was incredibly favourable to his tastes and that the dissonance between your actions in-game and the character who you're playing as isn't as strong as the dissonance in Uncharted, but it has a host of technical problems. It's fair.
I just hope the gunplay is better and that the slogs aren't as bad as some of the Uncharted games' slogs.
It's funny, because I grew up with S&KC I always thought of Launch Base as a kind of cheery and fun level whereas I've heard others describe it as more intimidating.
So nice listening to that nostialgic MIDI music. Brings back fond memories of trying to play the game with a joystick. And after all these years despite replaying the games on Steam the MIDI songs are still what my mind associates with the levels. I wouldn't say they're great, except Carnival Night 2, but I'd love to play the game with the S&KC soundtrack again somehow.
So nice listening to that nostialgic MIDI music. Brings back fond memories of trying to play the game with a joystick. And after all these years despite replaying the games on Steam the MIDI songs are still what my mind associates with the levels. I wouldn't say they're great, except Carnival Night 2, but I'd love to play the game with the S&KC soundtrack again somehow.
The Sonic 3 Complete hack over at Retro has the S&KC versions for CNZ, ICZ, and LBZ in the options menu.
Related, here's an obligatory video I did with the Hard Times song over Ice Cap gameplay.
These are all fair points, I largely agree. As for the gunplay, it's better due to not being the only thing that is available. It's one part of a larger combat system involving melee and stealth. In addition more sophisticated AI and a variety of enemy types means that combat sections aren't anywhere as repetitive.
Oh, well alright then. I actually thought of that but I thought it was a hack of the Genesis ROM(s?) and didn't think it'd be possible.
My friend and I made a song to this
it was about tits
there was a verse about Rouge in it
This isn't bad, but doesn't compare to the original at all. Kind of bland honestly. Not much else I have to say.
He should be putting his review up soon. Last I saw, he was editing it all up. Edit: And he ninja'd me.
(He doesn't think much of it, based on his stream, this, this, and this.)
I remember him ranting about the 3DS version for a little bit.
I think I get trapped by some sort of perfectionism in me because I'm so used to working in an academic sense so everything has to be perfect. Sometimes I even avoid using the first person and just use "the player" because I'm so used to writing academically that I just can't make writing impressions wholly about me. So they end up being semi-reviews like Time and Eternity, Ocarina of Time 3D, Hakuoki, and Rhythm Thief. But they aren't entirely super-formal (the OoT one is probably the most formal one I've written up here, I think).
There's one review I haven't posted on GAF at all because it's way too long, but my FF13 review was something that basically tore the game apart and my writing style wasn't even that great. If I recall correctly, it was lengthy and very... unrefined (ie: one of the subtitles was "Is a Story Supposed to be a Dance of Nouns Accompanied by an Encyclopedia?"). Going through that review right now, I was probably so irritated because I'd written it right after I'd finished the game.
For example:
When I'm angry, I get really really fucking wordy. And I don't think I agree with some of the stuff in a major way I said in the past. A lot of the stuff I wrote about the battle system is basically me deconstructing two premises put forth by people who like CSB, and I don't like CSB that much. Despite writing up ways to take enemies down quickly and proficiently while detailing how rankings work, I find the system flawed, but I don't think I ever wrote the reasons why I, myself, find the system flawed. I merely deconstructed arguments people put forth.
I... think that might also factor into the reasons why I do try to go in-depth as opposed to talking about what I thought of the game or try to make it sound like I'm thinking like an 'outsider', I guess? I dunno. I probably shouldn't do that since that isn't the type of audience I'm writing for, but I'm so used to writing like that that I can't help it sometimes.
Since you mentioned it, I went back to read your Uncharted 2 review (I haven't played the game yet despite half of GAF nagging me to play it.
I should really try to find all of my impressions that I posted on GAF and keep them in a doc so I know what I wrote impressions for and what I didn't.
even your impressions are very thought out and cover a multitude of reasons why things work and don't work. i take back what i said about my own writing- although i tried adapting impressions into reviews, there's a huge difference between what i put down for uncharted 2 and the last of us. i actually proofread the review for the last of us since it was the first naughty dog game in along time i honestly enjoyed, and wanted it to make as much sense as possible. although reading the uncharted 2 review was how i felt playing it. both are really disjointed and jump around from subject to subject.
uncharted 2 is a fun game. i don't care much for setpieces because i might as well just be watching a cutscene, but the platforming and sense of accomplishment is still there, and you're given some variety to how to approach situations sometimes. the part that baffles me is that the game is praised for its story and characters when they're both written pretty bad. i think people mistake great animation and great voice acting with solid storytelling. it was a lot like watching something from a bad joss whedon script, where everyone has a quick comeback with a sly grin.
worse, they were trying to make an indiana jones type without actually understanding what makes that character work. it isn't that indiana jones is sort of an accidental hero in that he finds himself in dangerous situation and gets out of it by the skin of his teeth, it's that he's an everyman. he could be me or you or anyone, really (well he's probably more of a male fantasy than anything). he's a professor with a day job. he's a normal guy first who happens to also hunt treasure in the name of archeology (and he stays true to that- he believes artifacts belong in a museum).
nathan drake is a treasure hunter. that's it. in addition, he's a guy who wants artifacts to get rich off them. there's no connection for the player. i don't think anyone knows where they can go to school to study treasure huntology. there's no moral underpinning- he doesn't want to see treasures in a museum. to top it off, he's kind of an asshole. unrelatable nathan drake is basically the third-person shooter equivalent of kratos, although unintentionally so.
and as i said in the review there is one character that was done so very very right, which was elena. elena should have been the star of the game. she was a journalist, so her job could take her into dangerous places, but it is also something people can understand. she actually has a job to do that is supposed to come with a code of ethics, so she inherently has some moral underpinnings. what do they do with her? they (and this is a big spoiler for uncharted 2's ending)
do a fake out where they attempt killing her off in an explosion from a suicide bomber who had no actual reason to be a suicide bomber. they turn her into an excuse to make the player sad because nathan drake is sad. they fridge her.
this all without touching on the main plot, which is fairly sloppy, or the other characters, who show up and disappear throughout the course of the game and are essentially other whedonese-speaking assholes. (note: i like joss whedon, but sometimes like in alien resurrection, he goes too far)
and then there's joel from the last of us. he's an asshole and he fucking murders people, because that's who he is and that's what he does. and that's fine because there's no attempt to make him appear like anything else.
Interesting that Nintendo pulls off a rather popular version of the exact same archetype in Wario. Not having touched Uncharted, I can't help but wonder what the differences between them are.
Shadow Hog
Member
Played more of Lost World. I know I'm not at the point where it gets awful, but as of mid-Tropical Coast, it's not that bad...
My main issues seem to come from air control. Namely, I frequently find myself jumping too slowly and having difficulty coming back to try again, so I often try to double-jump to make up for the lost speed and it doesn't pan out. Or perhaps I'm trying to make a long jump, but easily overshoot where I'm trying to land. Or I'm instinctively using the double-jump to change directions, but not accounting for how that nixes the fact I'm spinning, leaving me vulnerable. Or maybe I want to double-jump, but I'm hitting the jump button that's also assigned to "homing attack" and thus go veering off in the wrong direction. It's honestly kind of a mess.
Otherwise, it seems okay. Not looking forward to these pinball and minecart stages people are maligning, though.
My main issues seem to come from air control. Namely, I frequently find myself jumping too slowly and having difficulty coming back to try again, so I often try to double-jump to make up for the lost speed and it doesn't pan out. Or perhaps I'm trying to make a long jump, but easily overshoot where I'm trying to land. Or I'm instinctively using the double-jump to change directions, but not accounting for how that nixes the fact I'm spinning, leaving me vulnerable. Or maybe I want to double-jump, but I'm hitting the jump button that's also assigned to "homing attack" and thus go veering off in the wrong direction. It's honestly kind of a mess.
Otherwise, it seems okay. Not looking forward to these pinball and minecart stages people are maligning, though.
Wario is a greedy asshole who's really only ever in it for himself, and Nintendo not only acknowledges it, they play it up for all it's worth. Nathan, on the other hand, while being a treasure hunter, ostensibly tries to act for the greater good - something Wario only does if there's something in it for him.
It has in the past, hasn't it? The game never panned below, so it should be a clue that "there's nothing down there, I should probably avoid that".
It doesn't help though that water really isn't present at all in the game, though. TC 1 only had it through drill (and walls for some reason), it was effectively absent in TC 2 and TC 3, and 4 was the only location in the game where it was a notable mechanic. WH 1, 2, and 4 had some for cosmetic purposes only, although they should have made the water where you can't see the bottom be instant-death for consistency.
Hell, if I'm not mistaken the game used wind more often than it did water.
Well, the main issue is that it wasn't really obvious the water was an instant-kill pit. The thing that makes it really confusing is that you can stand on water in the earlier levels of the game. There wasn't much of a distinction.
I recall Tropical Coast Zone 4 to be actually an okay stage... but it is where the game starts showing its flaws through level design.
I recall Tropical Coast Zone 4 to be actually an okay stage... but it is where the game starts showing its flaws through level design.
SonicGAF's Song of the Day - #49
Song: And... Fish Hits!
Game: Sonic Adventure
Composer: Kenichi Tokoi
Catching a fish wasn't exciting for the sake of catching a fish, but because it signaled the impending end of a Big level. The game's fishing mechanics didn't work well by any metric, but the idea certainly captured the feel of fishing, i.e. long periods of boredom followed by short bursts of adrenaline, and the combination of this and Big's Emerald Coast theme reflects that. You don't usually get to hear the whole thing in-game, though, since individual bouts of fishing just aren't that long. Unless you get one of the really big suckers, and then the electric guitar that breaks in at 0:29 makes sense. Even without it, Tokoi going to town with a brass section is always a pleasure.
Also I'm amused that you can draw parallels between this and Terminal Velocity.
Song: And... Fish Hits!
Game: Sonic Adventure
Composer: Kenichi Tokoi
Catching a fish wasn't exciting for the sake of catching a fish, but because it signaled the impending end of a Big level. The game's fishing mechanics didn't work well by any metric, but the idea certainly captured the feel of fishing, i.e. long periods of boredom followed by short bursts of adrenaline, and the combination of this and Big's Emerald Coast theme reflects that. You don't usually get to hear the whole thing in-game, though, since individual bouts of fishing just aren't that long. Unless you get one of the really big suckers, and then the electric guitar that breaks in at 0:29 makes sense. Even without it, Tokoi going to town with a brass section is always a pleasure.
Also I'm amused that you can draw parallels between this and Terminal Velocity.
Sonic 3 Complete is pretty cool. I almost feel like it should be called Sonic 3 Custom with all the options. Great to have a replacement for the Super Sonic music.
Man, first thing I did after finishing work and eating dinner was starting up a new game and I only got to Marble Garden before falling asleep. Then I woke up and got to MushroomHill Valley before dozing off again and waking up the next day in time to get ready for work. Fuck my 12 hour shift sometimes :/ I like it and all but damn.
Man, first thing I did after finishing work and eating dinner was starting up a new game and I only got to Marble Garden before falling asleep. Then I woke up and got to Mushroom
ViewtifulJC
Banned
It takes 5 minutes to get to the first dungeon in the new Zelda
Thank fuckin' Christ
Thank fuckin' Christ
For comparison, it takes over 5 hours to get to the first dungeon in Twilight Princess.
Hot Coldman
Banned
It takes 5 years to reach the first dungeon in Skyward Sword
TP's start mostly felt too slow because I didn't care about the characters. SS trimmed it down a bit and had more interesting and convincingly expressive characters so I liked it. The race for the statue was much more interesting than goat herding, rescuing your loftwing was much more interesting than rescuing the kids... just better all around.
Also I always disliked the wolf stuff so there's that.
Also I always disliked the wolf stuff so there's that.
My thoughts almost word for word. SS's intro may be slow, but at least what's going on is more interesting than "herd goats and impress bratty kids for 3 days."
...and I wasn't exaggerating with Twilight Princess one bit. I was attempting to replay it a few months back. I saved outside of the first dungeon, noticed the game timer seriously said I'd been playing for over 5 hours.
When I replay Twilight Princess I'm just going to use Gecko OS codes and/or download a save to skip the intro. I wouldn't mind going through SS's intro again, but despite only playing TP once in 2006 thinking about the beginning still puts me off replaying it.
...Wow, Twilight Princess came out 7 years ago.
I found the SS tutorial fine in terms of length/what was going on, it was just the fact that they tended to repeat themselves that I got annoyed. In fact as a first time Zelda player I found a lot of the complaints undeserved. Repitition of hints was the game's only major flaw in my opinion. Like some were complaining about tadtones but that was hella enjoyable. Gotta appreciate some relaxing stuff surrounded in beautiful scenery sometimes.
My favourite Mario soundtrack got the M&S ReMix treatment!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn-qV7Rxxt0
Marioland!!!!! (I played this long before Super Mario Bros. so it's the original Mario theme to me and so it always bothered me that the mainline Mario games never bothered to remix it yet the original track gets trotted out all the time. If they do a Super Mario Bros 2 (USA) ReMix the my life is a huge ball of awesome.)
The best thing about these games is the soundtrack. The Windy Hill ReMix is pretty cool too;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dv9SaOcKJaY
The Speed Highway mix is also great but I can't find any clean rips yet; it sounds like what the Modern mix in Generations should've sounded like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn-qV7Rxxt0
Marioland!!!!! (I played this long before Super Mario Bros. so it's the original Mario theme to me and so it always bothered me that the mainline Mario games never bothered to remix it yet the original track gets trotted out all the time. If they do a Super Mario Bros 2 (USA) ReMix the my life is a huge ball of awesome.)
The best thing about these games is the soundtrack. The Windy Hill ReMix is pretty cool too;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dv9SaOcKJaY
The Speed Highway mix is also great but I can't find any clean rips yet; it sounds like what the Modern mix in Generations should've sounded like.
Shadow Hog
Member
I keep reading "Windy Hill" and expecting Windy Valley
I just bough Resident Evil 6 for $2.34. Can't be disappointed now!
SMB2's main theme is kickass. Speaking of, I wish more games continued the bass while paused instead of just immediately falling silent. That was such a neat feature.
Shadow Hog
Member
My opinion of Skyward Sword falls off a cliff about halfway through the game. It's like they made the 3 major areas, realized they had a budget limit, then designed the game around re-using all 3 areas as much as they could. Then they combine the worst part of Phantom Hourglass with the worst part of Twilight Princess and make you revisit every area again. And then the final dungeon is
That's of course without counting the pointless sidequests, unskippable item explanations on every reload, excessive amount of handholding, completely empty "overworld"... etc etc.
literally copy-pasted chunks of other dungeons with a re-used boss fight in a not so clever puzzle arrangement.
That's of course without counting the pointless sidequests, unskippable item explanations on every reload, excessive amount of handholding, completely empty "overworld"... etc etc.
Professor Beef
Banned
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I'm replaying SS right now. Maybe I'm just on a high coming off the second dessert section, but my opinion of has improved quite a bit. I give it a 8/10 on the Anihawk scale(TP 7/10, WW 6/10, MM errandboy/10)
Nocturnowl
Member
On the contrary, Skyword Sword's silent realm sections to me were like them finally getting the whole killer phantoms and tears of light idea executed in the right way, well as right as you can get it anyway.
As for the final dungeon,
As for the final dungeon,
LITERALLY copy pasted chunks of other dungeons? I don't think reusing the same dungeon environments covers the use of literally here. Can't say I care much for the actual sliding tile/room gimmick though.
Shadow Hog
Member
I should probably play past the beginning of the first dungeon of Skyward Sword one of these days
ViewtifulJC
Banned
People hate the Silent Realms? LOL those people
At least 10x more interesting than the Tedium of Light counterparts in TP
At least 10x more interesting than the Tedium of Light counterparts in TP
I didn't like the desert time stone sections, so SS doubling up on those instead of doing something different with the desert (like it does with the lava and forest areas) made me dislike that area the most.
Don't you know, literally can be used as figuratively now (as dumb as that sounds).
You get the idea though.
Don't you know, literally can be used as figuratively now (as dumb as that sounds).
You get the idea though.
After constantly re-using the same areas, a dungeon that's la re-use of previous environments and no real boss fight to it doesn't exactly please me.
The silent realms were quite fun. They were fast, tense, and a good test of your knowledge of the area and terrain navigation. I'd sooner play them a dozen times than WW Forsaken Fortress or TP Tears of Light.
Actually a lot of Skyward Sword was giving you a place to explore thoroughly, then altering it drastically and testing your knowledge and navigation skills. I enjoyed that.
Actually a lot of Skyward Sword was giving you a place to explore thoroughly, then altering it drastically and testing your knowledge and navigation skills. I enjoyed that.
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