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Sonic the Hedgehog Community Thread: Green Hills and Laughing Iizukas

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iavi

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S2HD going under is a damn shame; expected as all hell, but a shame, nonetheless.

At the least, they should release that fabulous OST. It was done, iirc.
 
S2HD going under is a damn shame; expected as all hell, but a shame, nonetheless.

At the least, they should release that fabulous OST. It was done, iirc.

The OST has been remade like 3 times now, some of the older stuff is on youtube but from the demo we had, this latest version of music sounds the best.

Hey at least we got a demo, something playable after all this time lol, a shame it will never come to be.
 

I wasn't ready to like this but then it turned amazing

The OST has been remade like 3 times now, some of the older stuff is on youtube but from the demo we had, this latest version of music sounds the best.

Hey at least we got a demo, something playable after all this time lol, a shame it will never come to be.

Well, the OST was a community thing but then it was decided to just let Tee Lopes do the whole thing. He posted a sample medley almost a year ago.
 

Kokonoe

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Lots of .gif potential here...

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Pietepiet

Member
Yesterday someone told me the Unleashed Wii daytime levels are better than the ones in the HD version. I told him no (I've played both), but it got me curious since it's been forever since I played the Wii version. Watched a few videos just now.

Nope.

Why do so many people claim that version to be the better one? The levels are so empty and boring compared to the beautiful HD ones :\
 
B-b-but the Metacritic scores are so much higher so it clearly MUST be the better version you're just dumb

I don't get it either, but I will admit, the Wii versions of some of the stages still look kinda fun (such as Rooftop Run). Just... not as imaginatively so.
 
That reminds me of a very... off-color fan fiction some SomethingAwful goon found on some poor sap's computer and uploaded the entirety of for the Internet to see. Complete with awful spelling, and trying to tie it in with a porn webcomic (I won't go into specifics).

Then the goons got together and did whimsical voiceovers of the fiction, mispellings and all. It was hilarious. However, when I say it was off-color, I'm really not kidding, so in the interest of not getting banned, I'll just leave it to your imagination.
 

NEO0MJ

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Then the goons got together and did whimsical voiceovers of the fiction, mispellings and all. It was hilarious. However, when I say it was off-color, I'm really not kidding, so in the interest of not getting banned, I'll just leave it to your imagination.

Can you at least give us a name?
 
I basically have this entire thing memorized. The Tails rant is one of my favorite things in the world.
I tend to quote this exchange a lot

ZipperFlash: "My father gave this to me, after he DIED!"
Sonic: "How'd your dad die?"
ZipperFlash: "He killed himself when he found out I was a furry-I MEAN, Robotnik killed him!"
Robotnik: "Wha-?"(shot)

I also love "Your weakness is getting FUCKED IN THE BUTTHOLE"
 

Combichristoffersen

Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Can you at least give us a name?

I think he might be referring to the dramatic reading-videos of Sonuc the Hodgepodge. The videos seem to be removed, but here's part of the original text version.

"TALSE" sonuc chewed. "BOY I BEST NOT NOTICE THAT NEW WARMTH IN MY HOME"

'well' tales straightened. 'i turned the heat up already. it was a bit too chill for my liking.' sonuc just pissed his way over with a furrow down his browse. 'HEAT.' sonuc continued. 'IS FOR THE IMPURE. BRRS AND CHILLS CAN ONLY BE TAUGHT BY A LARGE, CONSENTING ADULT. LIL' OL' SNOTRINGS LIKE A TALES AIN'T TO TOUCH'M, M'mN? Y'gotta learn PUNCTUALITY and RESPONSIBLE MAN MORALS 'fore i'll een' let ya NEAR that piece!'

tales just watched in dead silence.

tales had passed away long ago and his crisp deathstare was all that remained as his lifeless eyes glared deep into sonucs heart.

'well sonuc.' tales remarketed. 'my heat sculpture was gettin too cold.'

'fugret it you chicleteer. just go stroke my friends for a while. and do your tomework, you little britch.'


sonuc and tales have a lot of things to work through together and a therapist has been dispatched

Google 'Sonuc the Hodgepodge' to find the 4chan archive of the entire thing, complete with some very NSFW drawings.
 
I think he might be referring to the dramatic reading-videos of Sonuc the Hodgepodge. The videos seem to be removed, but here's part of the original text version.
Astoundingly, it is not that.

I guess a name is okay... "In Search For Love". It's now in SomethingAwful's Archives, so I hope you paid $15, since I'm not sure if you can access it any other way. I'm certainly not going to provide a link - if you stumble upon this, it'll be because you actively sought it out, and it'll be your own damn fault.

Just picked up Generations on PS3 for a buck. Awesome game so far.
And I thought the Steam version for $30 was a bargain.
 

Combichristoffersen

Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Astoundingly, it is not that.

I guess a name is okay... "In Search For Love". It's now in SomethingAwful's Archives, so I hope you paid $15, since I'm not sure if you can access it any other way. I'm certainly not going to provide a link - if you stumble upon this, it'll be because you actively sought it out, and it'll be your own damn fault.

I found a YTMND reading of it :lol Found the text version too, without having to pay those $15. And good God what is this shit.
 

NEO0MJ

Member
I'm certainly not going to provide a link - if you stumble upon this, it'll be because you actively sought it out, and it'll be your own damn fault.

Your attempts to warn me only make me more curious.

Edit: Listened to chapter 1. Not really as horrible as I was expecting. Gonna see the rest later.
 

Sciz

Member
All this music talk in the other threads has me wondering which Sonic games have the worst soundtracks?

Besides the obvious one, I mean. :D

Ignoring junk like Drift and Labyrinth, that'd be 4, Shadow, Advance 1, Advance 2, and both Rivals games by virtue of some combination of boring composition, shoddy samples, and poor arrangement. The Riders games aren't especially good on average either, despite Kumatani and Tokoi being involved to various degrees.
And SA2.
 
All this music talk in the other threads has me wondering which Sonic games have the worst soundtracks?

Besides the obvious one, I mean. :D

I would argue that there are no "bad" Sonic OSTs. The worst offenders are usually forgettable or just weird; rarely are they truly awful.

Sonic Riders, Sonic Rivals, and Sonic & The Black Knight all had super generic, entirely forgettable OSTs.
 

Sciz

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Sonic & The Black Knight all had super generic, entirely forgettable OSTs.

SatBK isn't my favorite soundtrack in the series by any means, but I do like that it's got a completely different style than the rest of the series, to the degree that even Senoue's tracks don't sound quite like his usual stuff (plus it has the two best songs he's written this entire generation). It won't go down as the highlight of Jacques, Drossin, and Tallarico's careers though, no.
 
Worst, huh? That's a tough one. I mean, if we deliberately exclude Chronicles. Even throwaway titles like Sonic Jump or Sonic's Schoolhouse have decent music. Still, I can think of a few candidates. In no particular order:

  1. Shadow the Hedgehog. I remember pretty much none of this game's soundtrack, and can't say as I'm really compelled to remind myself. It just felt so dull and generic!
  2. Sonic Spinball's compositions are actually generally pretty good, but Jesus that guitar instrument oh God my ears are bleeding
  3. Sonic 4. The compositions are actually pretty good (I utterly adore Splash Hill 1), but the instruments, Christ. If Senoue was going for Genesis music, he failed so utterly miserably, because I'm pretty sure not every bloody instrument was a sweep pad. Episode 2 doesn't really help this any, from what I've heard, although it's slightly less awful (and they managed to sneak in
    "Pleasure Castle"
    and
    "Stardust Speedway BF" (JP)
    , which were nice surprises).
  4. Sonic Rivals - didn't play it, but the music's very generic rock with little to no hummable melodies going for it. I'd say it'd fit in better with Unreal Tournament, and stylistically it probably would, but even a good chunk of UT's music had melodies.
  5. Sonic the Hedgehog Genesis, although this might be cheating a little.

Most of which was Eggmanland, I'm sure.
 

TheOGB

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I would argue that there are no "bad" Sonic OSTs. The worst offenders are usually forgettable or just weird; rarely are they truly awful.

Sonic Riders, Sonic Rivals, and Sonic & The Black Knight all had super generic, entirely forgettable OSTs.
Ignoring junk like Drift and Labyrinth, that'd be 4, Shadow, Advance 1, Advance 2, and both Rivals games by virtue of some combination of boring composition, shoddy samples, and poor arrangement. The Riders games aren't especially good on average either, despite Kumatani and Tokoi being involved to various degrees.
And SA2.
Yeah, this sounds about right.

I wouldn't say Shadow's OST is bad, but definitely the weakest of the mainline games.
SA2 is not bad. But it's... better with the game than without, I guess I could say. Except Knuckles and Rouge stages. Those are awesome.
 
I'm so very tempted to say 2K6, not because it's good, but because it's so bad that you must play it to know true terror.

Otherwise, there really haven't been any must-plays since Heroes, barring those Beef listed. I guess Brawl, in the loosest sense of "a Sonic game", but I can't imagine you haven't played Brawl by now.
 

Lijik

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Unleashed, if only for the Daytime levels.
Colors, for a good Modern Sonic experience.
Generations, for a fairly faithful Classic Sonic experience.

Out of these three, Colors and Generations are the truest "Must Play" games.
Unleashed has its high points, but the average player has to put up with an outrageous degree of padding to get to them.
 

TheOGB

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I'm so very tempted to say 2K6, not because it's good, but because it's so bad that you must play it to know true terror.
This should be the bar exam for Sonic fans.

As for actually good games, Colors and Generations. Look at some footage of the Night levels then play a middling to decent brawler; if you can put up with that then give Unleashed a shot as well.
 
Also, just to elaborate, the versions you should be going after, if you choose to:

360/PS3 versions of Unleashed
Wii version of Colors
PC/360/PS3 versions of Generations

The PS2/Wii version of Unleashed is a lot more bland, and is lacking some of the more awesome stages from its HD cousins (specifically, Empire City/Skyscraper Scamper and Adabat/Jungle Joyride), although to its credit its version of Eggmanland is of a more traditional length, and not the 45-minute marathon level the HD versions have. The only alternatives for Colors and Generations are the DS and 3DS versions, respectively, so I doubt you'd confuse them with their console counterparts anyway, but better to mention it than forget.
 
That its even possible to complete this game that fast is really mind blowing to me.

Watching the RunButton LP, all of the pointless wandering around they do is infuriating. Was that everybody's experience? Did I just magically happen to play Sonic Unleashed the right way while avoiding a large portion of "Where am I even going?" bullshit? Because I never found medal collecting or the HUB sections to be tedious at all. It was always super obvious where to go and most medals are literally hidden 2 inches off the critical path.
 
Watching the RunButton LP, all of the pointless wandering around they do is infuriating. Was that everybody's experience? Did I just magically happen to play Sonic Unleashed the right way while avoiding a large portion of "Where am I even going?" bullshit? Because I never found medal collecting or the HUB sections to be tedious at all. It was always super obvious where to go and most medals are literally hidden 2 inches off the critical path.
I was pretty annoyed starting from the first night stage, when they spent like 5 minutes searching for that darn button to open that door. I mean come on, you go off on every path *except* for the one right there. Try and break some pots or something, geez.

IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE DOOR, JUST TURN LEFT RIGHT THERE, ARRRGH

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Watching this speed run, it's pretty interesting watching Kakipi deal with the night stages. It looks like he's out of his element most of the time, mostly when it comes to combat (or maybe he doesn't practice as often on the night stages? Oh, just saw him glitch through a gate in Spagonia, awesome). And then when he gets back to a Day stage, it's all drift boosting and short hopping everywhere, which is always fun to see.
 

Dark Schala

Eloquent Princess
Speaking of the comics from another person's post... my boyfriend asked me if I wanted this collection of Sonic Universe issues for my birthday. I've yet to give him an answer because I don't know if they're good or not. Apparently it isn't very good if the review on Amazon is accurate.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Holy shit.

We need to get this guy a new Sonic game. He's just too good.

Haven't played a Sonic game since Sonic Heroes--barfs--what at the decent must play console games of late?
Colours
Generations

I would hesitantly recommend Unleashed, but only after you don't feel satiated after playing Colours and Generations.
Unleashed - Daytime levels. Probably go for the PS3/360 version since the distribution of Werehog/Hedgehog levels is more balanced than the Wii version (ie: the Wii version has more Werehog). However, there are some levels in the Wii version that I like more than PS360 version.

Watching the RunButton LP, all of the pointless wandering around they do is infuriating. Was that everybody's experience? Did I just magically happen to play Sonic Unleashed the right way while avoiding a large portion of "Where am I even going?" bullshit? Because I never found medal collecting or the HUB sections to be tedious at all. It was always super obvious where to go and most medals are literally hidden 2 inches off the critical path.
No. Perhaps it's because of years of playing RPGs, but I didn't have that 'wandering around looking for something to do' issue since it was pretty obvious you had to talk to the professor prior to going to any new destination, or gather medals for a new level to open up (which is basically what the Werehog levels were for). The Werehog levels seemed built for exploration and combat as opposed to the 'gotta go fast' mentality.

ColtraineGF said:
I was pretty annoyed starting from the first night stage, when they spent like 5 minutes searching for that darn button to open that door.
Torturous to watch.
 
Watching the RunButton LP, all of the pointless wandering around they do is infuriating. Was that everybody's experience? Did I just magically happen to play Sonic Unleashed the right way while avoiding a large portion of "Where am I even going?" bullshit? Because I never found medal collecting or the HUB sections to be tedious at all. It was always super obvious where to go and most medals are literally hidden 2 inches off the critical path.
I never had any trouble with the medal hunting. You pretty much get all of them just by going through the night levels.

I'm not going to lie, Colors and Generations are probably the "better games," but Unleashed is a far more memorable experience to me. Everything about it clicked for me, including the Werehog levels. It's pretty much the Sonic Adventure 3 I'd been hoping for as a kid. Lot of shit to do, places to go, etc. It's hardly perfect, but I'd like to see them use Unleashed as a base if they ever returned to the Adventure formula.
 
Oh right, never even answered the original question. Uhh...

Nope, not really. It's not like the game makes it hard for you to find out where to go (dotted lines to new destinations, Pickle/Tails commenting). It was only annoying for me having to go back and collect medals. It was really difficult considering I wasn't using any sort of guide, just going through and searching every nook and cranny of every day and night stage...if only Unleahed hadn't required that, I would hold it much higher.
 
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