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Sons of Anarchy - Season 4 - Tuesdays on FX

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Piney is like the best part of this show now.


The Miles thing is a bit too classic of a trope, but it was presented decently.
 
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Somnia

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Cornballer said:
Chibbs knows something is up.
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Yep he knows something is going on. Shit is really going to hit the fan in the next few episodes, I have a bad feeling of whats going to happen to certain characters =(
 
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Damn, now that was a great episode. I actually thought the whole Miles and Juice thing was done well, and I definitely said "oh shit" out loud. Things are about to get nuts.
 
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man these people are making the worst decisions

cant believe the recruits had to play roulette.. what is the appeal of being a prospect in the sons lol
 
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You can tell that Chibs is gonna be the first to find out about Juice. He already suspects something is up, with the questions, him going off to take phone calls, etc.
 
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Bloodsent said:
You can tell that Chibs is gonna be the first to find out about Juice. He already suspects something is up, with the questions, him going off to take phone calls, etc.
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Didn't he see him get arrested too?
 
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Cornballer

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dave is ok said:
Didn't he see him get arrested too?
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Was that him or Tig? I can't remember.


EDIT: I enjoyed this list of everything that's going wrong for the club right now:
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All right, let's see if we can count up the conflicts in play right now on Sons. The Russians, if any of them are left, are gunning for the club, with only the protection of the cartel keeping them at bay. The cartel represents a problem, although it's not an immediate one right now; Romeo seems pretty happy working with the Sons so far. That doesn't preclude a falling out down the line, however, and more immediately concerning is the fact that SAMCRO's relationship with Galinda is attracting the attention of the law and tearing the club apart. Within the Sons, Bobby's pissed at Clay for lying, Tig's feeling abandoned, and Piney is trying to blackmail Clay to force them out of the drug trade. Opie is so upset that his wife has been using birth control that he went and had sex with another porn star. Juice, working off the (apparently reasonable) assumption that he'll be kicked out of the club (or worse) if his mixed-race parentage is discovered, has temporarily liberated a brick of cocaine from the storehouse while working under the orders of Sheriff Roosevelt. Jax is determined to get his family away from Charming after one last big score. And Clay and Gemma are desperately trying to cover the tracks of a decades old murder. Clay is so desperate, in fact, that he's willing to try just about anything to keep the story from getting out. That's not a comprehensive list. You've still got Linc poking around the edges, and the whole trouble with Charming Heights.
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Brutal episode last night. I loved it.

Piney is so awesome. I see something bad happening to him in the near future and I'm already preemptively pissed off about it.
 
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RepairmanJack

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Cornballer said:
I can't see Piney making it until the end of the season. Who else is at risk right now? Juice? Tara? Unser?
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I can see a lot of people dying this season and just leaving the club in ruins. I don't even know what sides of conflicts will win out or who will die, but the deaths no doubt will be hard for the club. Right now I would say Piney and Juice seem likely, but I could see more happening.

Last night was such a good episode.
 
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Cornballer said:
I can't see Piney making it until the end of the season. Who else is at risk right now? Juice? Tara? Unser?
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7 seasons are planned, so they can't exactly snuff half the cast just yet.
 
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Drazgul said:
7 seasons are planned, so they can't exactly snuff half the cast just yet.
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I think Piney is a goner and truthfully I wouldn't mind seeing a season of the club being run by Jax and Clay gone.
 
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blahblah...blah

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What with Clay being set up as this season's big bad, is it at all possible that they'd kill him off before season 7? Imagine what a gutsy move that would be, and let's not forget Sutter has done something similar, albeit not with quite such a significant character, in the past.
 
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sooperkool said:
I think Piney is a goner and truthfully I wouldn't mind seeing a season of the club being run by Jax and Clay gone.
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I agree. At the beginning of the season with Jax wanting out and Clay pretty much fracturing the club with his decision I kind of thought something like that would happen. Jax being forced to be Pres by the club but at that point being in too deep with the cartel and others to get out of the drugs and gun business right away.
 
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blahblah...blah said:
What with Clay being set up as this season's big bad, is it at all possible that they'd kill him off before season 7? Imagine what a gutsy move that would be, and let's not forget Sutter has done something similar, albeit not with quite such a significant character, in the past.
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I was wondering that, too. Once Jax figures out that Clay killed his father and put a hit out on Tara, you figure he'll go after him. It'd be a huge shift and I'd miss Perlman, but it would open new plotlines for the show.
 
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Cornballer said:
Was that him or Tig? I can't remember.
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It was Chibs, who was having stomach problems if I remember correctly. They had just come out of the "pharmacy" when Juice got picked up.
 
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Drazgul

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Cornballer said:
I'm not implying that they'll all be killed by the end of S4 - just asking who's at risk.
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Right; well Piney would be my first guess, since they're actually showing him more now. :p

Unser will most likely go down with Clay (or soon after/before), which I don't see happening just yet. And Tara... nah, probably not.
 
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Bloodsent said:
It was Chibs, who was having stomach problems if I remember correctly. They had just come out of the "pharmacy" when Juice got picked up.
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Yeah, you're right. I remember now.
 
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Bazhard

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Drazgul said:
Right; well Piney would be my first guess, since they're actually showing him more now. :p

Unser will most likely go down with Clay (or soon after/before), which I don't see happening just yet. And Tara... nah, probably not.
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Jax will kill clay this season mark my words.

It's been building up since S2 and with the letters and what clay did last night, it's going to fall in place and on the finale Jax and/or Opie will put a bullet in his head.

As for the 7 season thing, you apparently don't know sutter, he easily snuff out half the club and the show still work.

The show can work without Clay, Piney, Juice, Tig, Bobby or Chibs. samcro is a giant club with a ton of potential to bring in new characters, no matter what happens this is the season that completely rocks the foundation of the club, it's going to happen and it's going to happen with clay dying.
 
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Good episode, I am really looking forward to the Tara situation.

Clay will not be dead this season....I would say not even next season. Season 6 or 7 is when he will die.
 
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Bloodsent

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Bazhard said:
Jax will kill clay this season mark my words.

It's been building up since S2 and with the letters and what clay did last night, it's going to fall in place and on the finale Jax and/or Opie will put a bullet in his head.

As for the 7 season thing, you apparently don't know sutter, he easily snuff out half the club and the show still work.

The show can work without Clay, Piney, Juice, Tig, Bobby or Chibs. samcro is a giant club with a ton of potential to bring in new characters, no matter what happens this is the season that completely rocks the foundation of the club, it's going to happen and it's going to happen with clay dying.
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I think the real key to the show has always been new blood vs. old blood, and doing things the old way vs. the new way in order to survive. I find it hard to get rid of all of the old blood and expect the show to still hold true to its roots.
 
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Entropia

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daw840 said:
Good episode, I am really looking forward to the Tara situation.

Clay will not be dead this season....I would say not even next season. Season 6 or 7 is when he will die.
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He has one more season tops, I think.
 
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Bloodsent said:
I think the real key to the show has always been new blood vs. old blood, and doing things the old way vs. the new way in order to survive. I find it hard to get rid of all of the old blood and expect the show to still hold true to its roots.
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But this has pretty much boiled down to Clay vs. the club. Almost everyone disagrees with what Clay is doing at this point. Even Gemma would if she knew the truth. I don't really see how Clay can last another season as Pres. I think after this season he either ends up dead or on the run in some way, I just don't see how he can make it out of this season in good standing.
 
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RepairmanJack said:
But this has pretty much boiled down to Clay vs. the club. Almost everyone disagrees with what Clay is doing at this point. Even Gemma would if she knew the truth. I don't really see how Clay can last another season as Pres. I think after this season he either ends up dead or on the run in some way, I just don't see how he can make it out of this season in good standing.
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Only on the issue of drug running, and only because he wants the quick and large score to get out himself. Everything else everyone has agreed on (except Jax who has been conflicted because of his Dad's manifesto).

While I agree we will see Clay get whats coming to him at Jax's hands, I believe that it will be more of a series ender, not a season ender.
 
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Awesome episode last night. God damn Clay is cold hearted this season. Now he put a hit out on Tara, he really doesn't want the truth to get out. I'm not sure Clay would want to take a chance on taking out Piney. Piney did tell Clay were anything to happen to him, he had a "contingency plan" ready.

Juice is getting into deeper and deeper shit every week! Makes for great drama though. I gasped when he shot the member that found him with the coke (can't remember his name). Chibbs knows something is up, and I feel for Juice if/when the rest ever find out.

Jax had me going for a bit with Ima. Wow at him smashing her face into the table. Guess we won't be seeing her around any more.
 
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purple cobra said:
Jax had me going for a bit with Ima. Wow at him smashing her face into the table. Guess we won't be seeing her around any more.
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I seriously wanted to kick him in the balls when he started talking to her, especially after he got yelled at by both Tara and Gemma. Glad to see he wasn't that stupid for the sake of plot.
 
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LocoMrPollock said:
Getting good now. So why did Juice even take the Kilo to begin with?
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Feds have leverage on him because he is half black, and that knowledge will get him kicked out of the club. So for them to keep quiet, they wanted a little help from him, namely a sample of the coke the Sons are smuggling for the Cartel.
 
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The real head scratcher for me was when he fell asleep with the kilo out in the forest and doesn't wake up until people ride up the next morning. You figure he'd be so amped up after the theft that he'd be up all night trying to figure out how to replace the kilo without getting caught.
 
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Cornballer said:
The real head scratcher for me was when he fell asleep with the kilo out in the forest and doesn't wake up until people ride up the next morning. You figure he'd be so amped up after the theft that he'd be up all night trying to figure out how to replace the kilo without getting caught.
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I had the same problem with that. It is almost like they did it just for plot progression, not for any logical reason. Was his plan supposed to be grab a sample and replace the kilo in the morning before everyone gets there?
 
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