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Sons of Anarchy - Season 5 - Tuesdays on FX

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Lanark

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So what the hell was Jax's plan? He'd arrive at Clay's, remove the documents and then what? Clay'd go: "nah, I didn't put those there. I'm being set up. How'd YOU know they were there?"

Since the members of the club obviously don't care about Jax taking care of business in secret and/or pretty unilaterally, he should just shoot Clay and be done with it. Then give his little speech about what Clay's done and the members will say "yea" and slam that gavel.

It all seems rather artificial. Who is Jax trying to convince? Bobby and Chibs know Clay did it, so do Juice, Gemma and Unser. It won't be hard to get Tiggy to believe it, he owes Jax anyway. So who's left, Happy and the fat prospect? All this work and risk to convince those two guys?
 
Not that I know of.

I'm assuming it's someone related to the nurse who was stabbed, considering it seemed pretty personal.

Ah ok, I was thinking it was the guy Clay had visited in prison for a second. Will be interesting to see where they take this character, since it's almost the end of the season. Obviously someone with connections if he can keep getting in there to see Otto.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Probably his sister.
That's my guess as well, if only because the nurse was played by Donal Logue's sister.

Lanark said:
It all seems rather artificial. Who is Jax trying to convince? Bobby and Chibs know Clay did it, so do Juice, Gemma and Unser. It won't be hard to get Tiggy to believe it, he owes Jax anyway. So who's left, Happy and the fat prospect? All this work and risk to convince those two guys?
Indeed. I know why the show feels the need to do this, because it can stretch the story, but I have no idea how it makes sense in-universe.
 
Also, Nero is the best character they've introduced in awhile. Hopefully he can stay on the show into next season as Jimmy Smits definitely lights up the screen in this role. Hopefully he doesn't go off the deep end and go gangster again, but I think that might be where they are heading. If it happens I expect a Nero vs Sons war next season for some reason. Otherwise he probably dies by the end of this season.
 
It all seems rather artificial. Who is Jax trying to convince? Bobby and Chibs know Clay did it, so do Juice, Gemma and Unser. It won't be hard to get Tiggy to believe it, he owes Jax anyway. So who's left, Happy and the fat prospect? All this work and risk to convince those two guys?

Yup, same thing I was saying last week. It all seems pointless. They keep acting like it would be hard to get a unanimous decision but all they need is two people. Ones kind of sadistic and ones a pussy who would follow the club regardless.

Don't get me wrong I like the buildup and all, but the lengths they are going to drag it out just seems dumb.

Really don't understand Bobby at the end. Only thing I could think was he was setting him up, but don't know if I see that happening.
 

Nizz

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BOBBY, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?

Juice, next time take pictures with your cell phone...

Dammit Juice, why didn't you just hide them somewhere else in the house?
Yeah, I saw Bobby showing up at Clay's place and wondering to myself WTF... And Juice has been a bumbling fool for a bit now and I don't like that. :/ Don't know what the fallout from his failing to get the documents will be.

Nero killed two members of his crew for nothing.
Yeah, that was rough. He's starting to unravel a bit and it has me worried. His character has had a good head on his shoulders, always had an "end game" in sight. Now it looks like things will get messy...

Damn, Otto got the shit beat out of him. I'm guessing it's the nurse's brother or other type of family member.
 
Good episode but Bobby acting like a white knight pretty much pissed me off.

Also you know kind of bothers me about sons of anarchy this season more so than others. I mean the walking dead gets flack for being relentlessly dark and bleak, especially this season, but sons of an anarchy is an even worse offender regarding bleakness. TWD lends itself to that, it's the apocalypse. But here, I mean has a single good thing happened this season to anybody? I think them hollering after winning a battle was like the first time anyone was remotely excited and it was after some violent event. Now I'm not saying it's bad to be bleak but my problem is it feels like everything is for nothing. Jax going crazy with manoeuvres and for what? lol. There's just so much bad shit happening and everyone is trying so damn hard to keep their heads above water for an outcome that will never come. It's a perpetual state of bleakness with no hint of upside. Even walking dead finds brief moments of upside in the relentlessness, I don't see it in this show.

Inb4 that's what kurt sutter wants. It's not a harsh criticism or a denouncing of the show or anything, just something that bugs me a but when I REALLY think about it. Still entertaining.
 

Salsa

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Shit needs to go down, desperately. Tired of Clay getting saved just in the right time by ridiculous reasons. Show's getting silly, time to move on from this
 
It all seems rather artificial. Who is Jax trying to convince? Bobby and Chibs know Clay did it, so do Juice, Gemma and Unser. It won't be hard to get Tiggy to believe it, he owes Jax anyway. So who's left, Happy and the fat prospect? All this work and risk to convince those two guys?

He needs the proof to show to the rest of the club. They vote on everything so I don't know why you can't understand that he can't accuse a member of something without substantial proof.
 

choodi

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Just caught up with this episode and just as I suspected it was a complete mess with characters doing bizarre things with flimsy motivations.

I would have checked out by now, but my girlfriend still wants to see what happens.

Juice had been reduced to a comedy sideshow who is so dumb that I'm surprised he remembers to breathe. What happened to the smart tech guy that he used to be?

Also, can no one in this show shoot straight?
 

Carnby

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I'm surprised no one has mentioned the cameo from a Shield alumni in this episode. The actor who played the leader of Nero's gang had a pretty big role in The Shield.
 

Curtisaur

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Every week, when Sunday rolls around, I wake up with it in my head that this comes on after The Walking Dead and have to remind myself "nope two more days."

:(
 

Kweh

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So the scene with Bobby and Clay at the end
anyone else think Clay is Jax's real father? That would make sense about the safe and contents - because they all said there was nothing important just bits like birth certificates that would confirm it
 
Synopsis of the series!

Edit: Is it safe to assume the finale will be an extended episode? It would be odd to have the four episodes leading up to it extended but not the finale.
 

strafer

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Curtisaur

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Man goddammit EVERY FUCKING TIME. Sundays - I think the show comes on to be let down. Tuesdays - I get in the middle of something else, forgetting that it comes on, and then wham I remember it.
 
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