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Sony didn’t pay for Metal Gear Solid 4 exclusivity ; Kojima did not want to make the port for Xbox 360
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RoboFu
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Seems to be pretty heated now for you
The console wars were pretty spicey back then
But yes this codec happens during the return to Shadow Moses area. It was obviously talking about the first game.
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It was preferable going that way as it avoided memory allocation issues. The PS3 had split pools, the 360 was unified.
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Kilau
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My biggest surprise is that the game came out a year before the PS3 launched, amazing.
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Na just reminiscing about the time back than…Seems to be pretty heated now for you
But yes this codec happens during the return to Shadow Moses area. It was obviously talking about the first game.
Plus someone needs to tell the young generation about it. I'm past that "war" mindset. I enjoy every game on every Plattform
lostinblue
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Hard game to retool, it's the only game on PS3 that uses the sys_overlay call which is why it took until 2018 for the emulators to get ingame with it.
It's a way to inject/load code on the fly, and it also did that with graphics rendering.
Think of MGS4 as a game developed by a developer that saw PS3 as 4 PS2's tied together (PS2-2 VU's vs PS3-7 SPE's) it had that old CPU controls GPU mantra going on that was obsolete at that point and went from the ground up with that briefing without a multiplatform implementation. It's a mess and at the same time developed as if Ken Kutaragi was having it his way.
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Guilty_AI
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Remember back then about the disk wars, but what i remember the most were people complaining about having to install games on a HDD.
"This is a PC thing!", "Consoles are supposed to be plug and play!" or "Don't make my experience overcomplicated!".
Nowadays this is basically the norm and now we have people complaining about graphical options on consoles.
"This is a PC thing!", "Consoles are supposed to be plug and play!" or "Don't make my experience overcomplicated!".
Between snake and fallout guy, now i know who was right about war.
"This is a PC thing!", "Consoles are supposed to be plug and play!" or "Don't make my experience overcomplicated!".
Nowadays this is basically the norm and now we have people complaining about graphical options on consoles.
"This is a PC thing!", "Consoles are supposed to be plug and play!" or "Don't make my experience overcomplicated!".
Between snake and fallout guy, now i know who was right about war.
Cyber_hunter026
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Al Pachinko, Konami President
Thank God we could play it with Now.
nush
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Fanboy shit that they didn't shoot themselves in the foot.
RoboFu
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01011001
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fun times those installs xD
for real tho, the only reason these installs needed to happen is because the PS3 loaded extremely slowly from BluRay, ad decompressing to that and you're in trouble.
so if they made a 360 port these installs would not have been necessary.
all they would have needed to do is to put every chapter onto its own disc and make you swap discs.
swapping dics takes up less than 1% of the time compared to these 10min installs
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ChorizoPicozo
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It would have not sold enough copies to justify the amount of work.
Georges Chiellins
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Debuted in March 2005 on the PS3. Wut?
Ghost of Caelid
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Not surprising. Japanese developers are understandly Sony fanboys. Looking at you Altus. Loyalty seems faaaaar more important to them than American developers who (understandly) follow the dollar and will release their games on a roster if the pay is good enough.
The original PS3 consoles had only 20GB hard disks, which is why MGS4 installed in different parts per chapter. Disk fragmentation could also be an issue, though the PS3 is supported to use a file system that's resilient to that.
As for the 360, Microsoft should have allowed for games to be packaged on the HD-DVD addon, for specific games that could have benefitted it, then again having games rely on addons early in the consoles life is not a good luck. Plus since its using USB, they may have been worried about security/piracy.
As for the 360, Microsoft should have allowed for games to be packaged on the HD-DVD addon, for specific games that could have benefitted it, then again having games rely on addons early in the consoles life is not a good luck. Plus since its using USB, they may have been worried about security/piracy.
GreatnessRD
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My body and soul is ready. My wallet, too.
Ghost of Caelid
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On the 360? Was the most popular console at the time. It would have done gang busters.
nush
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It's Bluray, just make the cutscenes HD video files and be done with it.
Lucifers Beard
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That makes sense. However, for some reason I seem to remember some games later in the generation requiring a hard drive. That or I'm absolutely mental.
SSfox
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Fanboys are those who keep begging for other plateformes games to come to their fetish piece of plastic box for years
Swift_Star
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It's clearly referencing the ps1 game. Snake is on shadow Moses when this happens.
The console wars were pretty spicey back then
Cmon now.
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Swift_Star
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That's not how this works.
cireza
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The DVD format would prove to be a problem for open games where you can access all places visited throughout the entirety of the game. Still, games like Lost Odyssey managed to do this with 4 discs. So I think there would have been a solution, especially for something linear like MGS.
Too bad ! This is a missed opportunity, in my opinion.
Too bad ! This is a missed opportunity, in my opinion.
nush
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Fanboys are those who keep begging for other plateformes games to come to their fetish piece of plastic box for years
SSfox
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Yup
"Metal Gear Solid 5 sells 3 million copies — most of them on PlayStation 4. In the UK, 72 per cent of sales were on PS4"
There’s a good chance you bought Metal Gear Solid this weekend
In the UK, 72 per cent of sales were on PS4, taking the game shooting to the top of the charts
www.independent.co.uk
Kssio_Aug
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Why not PC though. I just think it's sad that so many people didn't have the opportunity to play the last good mainline game on the franchise.
It was a given that MGS5 would sell more on PS4, when it's predecessor was platform exclusive.Yup
"Metal Gear Solid 5 sells 3 million copies — most of them on PlayStation 4. In the UK, 72 per cent of sales were on PS4"
There’s a good chance you bought Metal Gear Solid this weekend
In the UK, 72 per cent of sales were on PS4, taking the game shooting to the top of the charts
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Ghost of Caelid
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If what they are saying is true its LITERALLY how it worked in this situation.
kingfey
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That is the fate of 3rd party games, which tries to lock their games on 1 system.
GHound
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In an alternate reality where a 360 port released and they refused to back down from uncompressed audio there would have been enough common data per disc that we would have actually gotten the iconic 20 disc MGS4 boxset meme for real.
I want to be in that timeline instead, just for the memes.
I want to be in that timeline instead, just for the memes.
Iced Arcade
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That's interactive movie would have taken a lot of DVDs
Swift_Star
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They never said Japanese developers are PlayStation fanboys. Source of that exactly phrasing?
Ghost of Caelid
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Oh , you're nitpicking hyperbolic terminology instead of looking at the totality of the point...copy.
Swift_Star
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Final Fantasy VII Remake is not having this problem, though. Some games simply don't sell on some platforms because their audience isn't there.
Same goes for Kingdom Hearts series.
Swift_Star
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So, you got nothing.
Cope, son.
ChorizoPicozo
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Nah.
SLB1904
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Hiw many games even have more gameplay mechanics than mgs4?
DaleinCalgary
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I remember the great wars back in the day here when many argued all you needed was a DVD drive and blu ray was a gimmick.
Swift_Star
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Final Fantasy XIII Debuts On Xbox 360 With Less Than 22,579 Units Sold
Not surprised at all. FFXIII flopped on 360.
Like I said, some games have no audience on xbox ecosystem.
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DaleinCalgary
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massive changes most likely needed from code for the dumb Cell Cpu.
kingfey
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Steam has audience.
Ghost of Caelid
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1. FF has a different audience than MGS considering one is more western in inspiration than the other.
2. it was an old game when it released, so the intrigue was already dead.
3. MGS5 sold well on xbox even with the huge disparity in console sales. during the 360 era when the margin was smaller it would have bolstered the games sales.
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