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[Dawg]

The official PlayStation USTREAM may be accessible. Same goes for GameTrailers. Are you able to watch either on the iPad?

Ustream seems to work, thanks. I hope it'll still work tomorrow though, with the increase in viewers etc

 

[lazybones18]

Less than 24 hours. Bring it home, Sony

 

[The_Inquisitor]

I'm ready to jump ship please Sony just do the right thing. I even cancelled my live after 7 years

Got you beat. Sold my 360 today.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Sony's conference is becoming much more interesting. With CBOAT's post we now have more leaked info on the MS conference. But Sony? Well, there's Final Fantasy and a Destiny demo. I can't remember an E3 conference ever being as locked down as what Sony is doing this year. But I still get the feeling that something is going to leak. It's just hard to believe that they can keep everything this quiet with the exception of what we ready know for a fact (FF and Destiny).

 

[DBT85]

BTW, Yoshida said that he doe not think that is the real Cerny twitter.

 

[RoKKeR]

Friends, I have a request. I've been saving it up for a long time for the right moment, and I think that time has come.

Somebody please convert this to an appropriate E3 .gif.

 

[Samyy]

Do we actually know whether FF is a complete exclusive?

 

[Voror]

Lord, I just know I'm going to have customers telling me that Xbox One has all these exclusives and such. Already had several telling me Ghosts wasn't going to be on PS4 before I informed them otherwise.

It actually demonstrated to me that this sort of thing could work with those less in the know on these things.

 

[GalacticMouse]

Sony's conference is becoming much more interesting. With CBOAT's post we now have more leaked info on the MS conference. But Sony? Well, there's Final Fantasy and a Destiny demo. I can't remember an E3 conference ever being as locked down as what Sony is doing this year. But I still get the feeling that something is going to leak. It's just hard to believe that they can keep everything this quiet with the exception of what we ready know for a fact (FF and Destiny).

I hope it doesn't at this point. We're only 22 hours away and people are going to be focused on the other pressers in 13 hours leading up to Sony's show. The fact that they've kept it so tight-lipped has me really excited for what they're going to show. I can't wait.

 

[aramanKain]

I'm ready to jump ship please Sony just do the right thing. I even cancelled my live after 7 years

I read this as "I canceled my life after 7 years"

 

[Krusenstern]

I think the reason they are being so tight lipped about it is because its going to be a bullet point of their presentation. Probably going to have Kaz/Trentton just say it will all work exactly like the PS3.

This must be it, if that's the case. Oh my god.

 

[Loakum]

Microsoft will be paying devs not to mention PS4 versions at E3.
If you do not hear them say "EXCLUSIVE" or "FIRST ON", then it WILL be coming on the PS4 most likely DAY and DATE.
You will most likely get this from half of the titles at Microsoft's event.

That is.....very petty of Microsoft.

 

[mysteriousmage09]

Just to throw this out there, it was famousmortimer that first threw out the idea that MS was trying to pay third party devs to not talk about the PS4 versions of their game. You know what he also said? That at last check Sony had backed off from using DRM.

Yep. He said it was 2 weeks ago from when he posted that. Which lines it up with it being a proper reaction after MS got blown the fuck up when they announced it at the Xbone reveal event.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Microsoft will be paying devs not to mention PS4 versions at E3.
If you do not hear them say "EXCLUSIVE" or "FIRST ON", then it WILL be coming on the PS4 most likely DAY and DATE.
You will most likely get this from half of the titles at Microsoft's event.

yup, and it's not surprising at all.

 

[Averon]

So MS was the one to approach 3rd parties with all this DRM and not the other way around. Makes MS look even worse and gives me hope that Sony will not follow them given it wasn't 3rd party pressure that started this DRM path to hell MS is on.

 

[qa_engineer]

I feel privileged to read cboat's info, lol.

The internet hive mind at work.

 

[maniac-kun]

yup, and it's not surprising at all.

I hate this dishonest shit. Its not even in the interest of the developer. They want to sell the game on both platforms.

 

[illmatic22]

Well I can honestly say that from what's being leaked, not much interests me from fhe MS conference. Don't let me down Sony and Nintendo.

 

[Dark_AnNiaLatOr]

Lord, I just know I'm going to have customers telling me that Xbox One has all these exclusives and such. Already had several telling me Ghosts wasn't going to be on PS4 before I informed them otherwise.

It actually demonstrated to me that this sort of thing could work with those less in the know on these things.

It would be a sad day if a DRM platform succeeded because of something like that. I never was invested in sales or anything, but I'm gonna be honest, I don't really want the Xbox One to do well, at all. They need to learn a very big lesson. Sadly, with a Marketing juggernaut like Microsoft, I don't know if it'll be easy for consumers to say no.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

Eugh, it's like then night before Christmas. I can't sleep :x

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

I hate this dishonest shit. Its not even in the interest of the developer. They want to sell the game on both platforms.

the mighty dollar is all anyone cares about. MS has a lot of it to throw around for stupid stuff like that.

 

[flaxknuckles]

BTW, Yoshida said that he doe not think that is the real Cerny twitter.

It says it's unofficial in the description

EDIT: Oh wow, the dude removed it.

 

[Loudninja]

So MS was the one to approach 3rd parties with all this DRM and not the other. Makes MS look even worse and gives me hope that Sony will not follow them given it wasn't 3rd party pressure that started this DRM path to hell MS is on.

So Activison seem to crazy about the DRM and MS is the one that brought it up?

This is crazy.

 

[dancmc]

I hate this dishonest shit. Its not even in the interest of the developer. They want to sell the game on both platforms.

It happens all the time though. Diablo 3 and Sony's Feb conference

 

[Evolved1]

So MS' cloud is a Trojan horse for DRM (which we already knew) and they plan to make it even more restrictive and shitty over time (which we suspected).

A Trojan horse to sneak in another Trojan horse.

This is why I cannot buy the console, and why I couldn't buy the PS4 if Sony pull the same shit.

Fortunately, seems things aren't headed in that direction. Or there will be buckets of tears.

 

[SolidSnakex]

I hope it doesn't at this point. We're only 22 hours away and people are going to be focused on the other pressers in 13 hours leading up to Sony's show. The fact that they've kept it so tight-lipped has me really excited for what they're going to show. I can't wait.

They certainly might be able to pull it off. But it still seems impossible at this point. How can they possibly keep from having even one major thing from leaking out of their conference? Everything is so controlled from them at the moment.

So MS was the one to approach 3rd parties with all this DRM and not the other. Makes MS look even worse and gives me hope that Sony will not follow them given it wasn't 3rd party pressure that started this DRM path to hell MS is on.

Oh, and this also lines up with what famousmortimer said. He mentioned that both Sony and MS were looking to do it as a way of making more money. But that Sony at least check had back away from it. And if it was their idea it'd be much easier for them to back away than if it were third party publishers putting the pressure on them.

 

[Slime]

Do we actually know whether FF is a complete exclusive?

I don't think so. I think that line of thinking comes from the XV=Versus for PS4 theory, and since the original plan was for PS3 exclusivity, then surely the finished product must be also.

I disagree, though. If they're doing away with the subtitle and changing generations, then I expect any platform allegiances to fall by the wayside as well. If XV is announced, I'm sure it'll be multiplat.

 

[illmatic22]

So Activison seem to crazy about the DRM and MS is the one that brought it up?

This is crazy.

Call of Duty gets that paper. They don't need DRM.

 

[BlueSummers]

Eugh, it's like then night before Christmas. I can't sleep :x

Sameeee ugh lol

 

[Respawn]

#truthfact???

You're new here so I understand.

Less than 24 hours. Bring it home, Sony

Thanks for that spoiler free thread lazybones. Folks are grateful for it.

 

[i-Lo]

Another supposed exclusive (except PC):

 

[qa_engineer]

You're new here so I understand.

I was asking the mod if what he said was indeed a truth fact, but yes I am new here.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

So MS' cloud is a Trojan horse for DRM (which we already knew) and they plan to make it even more restrictive and shitty over time (which we suspected).

A Trojan horse to sneak in another Trojan horse.

This is why I cannot buy the console, and why I couldn't buy the PS4 if Sony pull the same shit.

Fortunately, seems things aren't headed in that direction. Or there will be buckets of tears.

Now it's plainly obvious that Microsoft approached publishers with DRM, maybe people will stop blindly assuming Sony will do the same. Publishers aren't pushing the industry towards DRM, it was Microsoft.

 

[maniac-kun]

It happens all the time though. Diablo 3 and Sony's Feb conference

Its still a stupid practice.

 

[wilflare]

Another supposed exclusive (except PC):

warframe <3

 

[Bunta]

I was asking the mod if what he said was indeed a truth fact, but yes I am new here.

cboat is the most trusted source here.

 

[Voror]

It would be a sad day if a DRM platform succeeded because of something like that. I never was invested in sales or anything, but I'm gonna be honest, I don't really want the Xbox One to do well, at all. They need to learn a very big lesson. Sadly, with a Marketing juggernaut like Microsoft, I don't know if it'll be easy for consumers to say no.

I've been doing my best to keep those customers who aren't as informed about what's going on with the system. Some don't seem to care and only care about the games and what not, though some have shown surprise at what I've told them.

I think if anything happens to dampen sales, it will be after the console is out and selling with the possibility of people running into problems due to MS' policies.

 

[SolidSnakex]

So Activison seem to crazy about the DRM and MS is the one that brought it up?

This is crazy.

Activision doesn't seem to like DRM too much

"What we've tried to do is to really support our audiences and, you know, when you talk to players, they like the idea of having a currency. They like the idea of being able to take a game they no longer want to play and use it to get a credit to buy new games." We can't argue with that, and doubt EA would either, but it's a simple matter of economics: Retailers are cutting the game companies out of that second-hand sale. "We can do some of these things that EA and others have done," Kotick said. "We actually don't think its in the best interest of the gamer, and so we've chosen not to."

Instead, Activision's made some serious profits off of downloadable map packs for its Call of Duty titles. "From a financial perspective you look at it and say, 'Okay, well the retailer is not paying us anything for the privilege of doing it and you know we invest all this capital in making a game and we are not getting any credit, any return on their resale of the game,' but, you know something, the best way to keep people engaged in your game experience is keep giving them more great content."

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/11/12/bobby-kotick-on-the-business-of-call-of-duty-dlc-treyarch-inf/

They get a lot of hate, but their heart really does seem to be in the right place as far as DRM goes.

 

[Boogalogist]

Collar Doody was shown on TVTVTVTVSPORTSSPORTSPOSRTSTVTVTV, but it sure as hell ain't exclusive.

 

[Midou]

Might be a random question, and I don't remember how it went last year, but is there a length already stated for each of the E3 conferences tomorrow?

 

[I-hate-u]

Another supposed exclusive (except PC):

http://i.minus.com/iktcRyQpGFXa3.gif[IMG]

[IMG]http://i.minus.com/iTiFlrjdTAmh.gif[IMG][/QUOTE]

Exclusive u mean to PS4 or X1?

 

[IceBreak]

Whoever is good at video editing:

After the show, please re-splice this video with authentic shots of the console:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3trQXK8oBS4

 

[d1rtn4p]

Dunno. The fact that Sony has been quiet on the DRM topic to date pretty much makes me think they are gonna have an equal system or maybe something that's 90% as crappy. They would of spoken by now if they weren't going with a similar approach.

 

[Samyy]

For what its worth my friends are all going PS4 and I've seen multiple people trading in their 360s, but of course this is a very small sample size.

At the end of the day I think we have to remember that PS3 had a horrible launch but still managed to outsell the 360 by the end of the cycle, while launching a year later. At a respectable price with a good games lineup I fully expect Sony to lead in sales moving forward.

 

[Amir0x]

So CBOAT confirm Microsoft is paying pubs/devs to keep multiplatform versions of PS4 games a secret. These little assholes are really going to be playing hardball this year.

Keep informed, GAFers. Always make note of when they say exclusive or not, so we can be informed. Don't let their misinformation campaign catch on.

 

[H_Prestige]

So tomorrow may be the last day the name Versus XIII will be used. It's been 7 years.

 

[Krusenstern]

Now I know I can boycott EA and Ubi alongside Microsoft next generation.

 

[Red Blaster]

I don't think so. I think that line of thinking comes from the XV=Versus for PS4 theory, and since the original plan was for PS3 exclusivity, then surely the finished product must be also.

I disagree, though. If they're doing away with the subtitle and changing generations, then I expect any platform allegiances to fall by the wayside as well. If XV is announced, I'm sure it'll be multiplat.

reading between the lines of the rumors it would appear that sony in a sense rescued versus from development hell so there's a decent shot at it being exclusive

no idea for sure of course but i think there will in general be a lot more defacto exclusives on ps4 with xbone basically saying fuck japan, we've been seeing it the past year on ps3 with games like dragon crown, kingdom hearts and ffx hd remix etc.

 

[qa_engineer]

cboat is the most trusted source here.

You guys clearly aren't reading my posts. I know what cboat has contributed. Sighhhh

 

[PlanetSmasher]

I don't think so. I think that line of thinking comes from the XV=Versus for PS4 theory, and since the original plan was for PS3 exclusivity, then surely the finished product must be also.

I disagree, though. If they're doing away with the subtitle and changing generations, then I expect any platform allegiances to fall by the wayside as well. If XV is announced, I'm sure it'll be multiplat.

Well, the going rumor is that Sony is helping out with Versus. If Sony is involved in the development, it won't be multiplat. But we all know Square loves that multiplat cash, so who knows...

I kind of hope it's exclusive, if only because it looks like Microsoft is out for blood with third party exclusive agreements and Sony's gotta have something to counter it. FF has always been associated with PS since VII, so it certainly makes sense.