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Spider-Man: Edge of Time |OT| Look Out, here comes the Spider-men...
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Criminal Upper
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Lionel Mandrake said:*sigh*
One day... One day...
Eh, I think Shattered Dimensions was a better game than Spider-Man 2.
Rated-Rsuperstar
Member
I hate using someone's youtube walkthrough but this guy has a good hour of the 360 version up.
Beenox seems to be mixing up the variety of the game constantly. And it looks real good.
Beenox seems to be mixing up the variety of the game constantly. And it looks real good.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
Kmart is giving out a 20 dollar gift card with this game.
davidjaffe
The Fucking MAN.
Yes I'm jazzed for RAGE and to an extent Dark Souls (altho I'll prob shelve that one after 1 hour cause of difficulty) but man, as a mega Spidey fan and a big fan of Shattered Dimensions (minus the noir) this is the new release of today that I'm most eagerly awaiting! Heck, I'll admit it: I'm more jazzed for this than for Batman and I know the new Bats is gonna prob be a GOTY contender!
Marvel fan boy for life, I suppose! Excelsior y'all!
David
Marvel fan boy for life, I suppose! Excelsior y'all!
David
ShockingAlberto
Member
Noir Spider-Man could have been really good if they worked on the enemy AI a bit.
As it stood, it was just the slowest, least fun Spider-Man.
As it stood, it was just the slowest, least fun Spider-Man.
davidjaffe said:
I'm with you there. I loved Spider-man: Shattered Dimensions and although it didn't have a focus on web swinging like previous games...I thought it was the best Spider-Man game made to date. I actually liked Noir Spider-Man...it was a change of pace compared to all the Spider-Men.
Hell, I can admit that Spider-Man: Web of Shadows is a mediocre game for the most part but had a blast web swinging around town. The way I look at it is that it was fun, and ultimately that's all that matters.
I guess that's what I really want from the game, for it to portray the character well and for it to be fun!
davidjaffe
The Fucking MAN.
JohngPR said:
I agree about portraying the character part. And I'd love to see them do so beyond the physical/powers aspect of the character.
The ironic part (and- IMHO- the real opportunity for folks making Marvel games) is that what Stan Lee did that was so special (and what still makes Marvel comics so great) is he really focused on the human aspects of the heroes and not JUST their powers. I would love to see a Marvel hero game that does the powers well but also includes the humanity and pathos that really does define the Marvel Universe.
And I'd love to see these elements embedded in the gameplay (i.e. saving Gwen Stacey- or trying to- as Green Goblin tosses her off a bridge...if you DO save her, perhaps it spins the story in a new direction for a bit; Spidey having to choose between stopping a bad guy or saving Aunt May; Spidey living with the consequences of his whole 'great power/great responsibility' thing; special case context sensitive attacks that are attacks but are also sight gags so Spidey combat can get some of the humor in in other ways besides the quips;etc).
David
LeonSKennedy90
Banned
Jaffe goes on what I was talking about earlier, that the first REALLY great Spider-Man game is gonna have to focus on Peter Parker, the key to success to the massive appeal of Spider-Man. Yes, he's got cool powers and a great outfit and some humor, but a lot of heroes have that. What separated Spider-Man from the pack was he was the best "the hero that could be you". The ultimate power fantasy and achievement for the superhero genre, a guy who has to deal with a boss that barks down his neck, money problems, bad/crazy roommates, sick family members, relationship drama, and all sorts of everyday, reletable problems.
The game is gonna have us feel like we are Peter Parker, because that is the whole point of his character. Maybe have Mass Effect like dialog options, different endings, different paths in the game, maybe you try to have a relationship with Gwen or maybe MJ, do sidejobs for the Daily Bugle or deliver pizzas like the Spider-Man 2 movie, or whatever. Spider-Man cannot be the entire focus of the game. Spider-Man is Peter Parker, but Peter Parker is not JUST Spider-Man, you get me? Its just the most colorful, fantastic facet of his life, and the game should reflect that.
The game is gonna have us feel like we are Peter Parker, because that is the whole point of his character. Maybe have Mass Effect like dialog options, different endings, different paths in the game, maybe you try to have a relationship with Gwen or maybe MJ, do sidejobs for the Daily Bugle or deliver pizzas like the Spider-Man 2 movie, or whatever. Spider-Man cannot be the entire focus of the game. Spider-Man is Peter Parker, but Peter Parker is not JUST Spider-Man, you get me? Its just the most colorful, fantastic facet of his life, and the game should reflect that.
LeonSKennedy90 said:
Yep, that´s exactly what im waiting for: an open world Spider-Man game that incorporates Peter Parker as a central character
This Shattered Dimensions/Edge of time duo is just a brawler with spider-man as a playable character. A real spider-man game will have to be open world.
And no, Web of Shadows isnt a decent game. Its terrible.
The mission progression is horrible. "Defeat 5 enemies... Now defeat 10 more... now 150"
Its so easy i never died. Its so easy you dont even need to call in any partner.
They got spider-man movement kinda right, but not too much: sometimes its just too loose, combat relies too much on web zip, crawling on walls is a nightmare, camera controls are terrible..
The only thing good about Web of Shadows is the fact that its an open world spider-man game.
davidjaffe
The Fucking MAN.
LeonSKennedy90 said:
Hmmm...sounds like you are talking about THE HUMAN FLY video game!
And if you get that reference, you and I good sir, are kindred ass spirits for life!
David
LeonSKennedy90
Banned
Funny you showed up today, David. I remember a few months ago this was suppose to the date for that new Twisted Metal
Well, I've had the Wii version since Saturday, got it at the local flea market, and I haven't really had much time to sink into it. From what I have played of it so far, it is good. One thing I'm a bit disappointed with is that they didn't go with the cel-shaded look of Shattered Dimensions.
This week is going to be pretty bad in terms of sinking time into the game, but I will keep updating the more I play.
This week is going to be pretty bad in terms of sinking time into the game, but I will keep updating the more I play.
wondermega
Member
Game looks alright, looking at the Let's Play. Some nice looking gfx and standard gameplay. It's a little telling, in general, that the quality of these games are "better than they need to be" as far as what is needed to sell units, and it's likely just a consequence of being a licensed property; but honestly, the people who own these brands should really take it more seriously. A brand/theme like Spider-Man honestly has no excuse not to generate as much enthusiasm as, say, Batman games this generation. For crying out loud, these could/should be as well-put-together as something like Uncharted, for the impact it could have on the gaming culture (and the "real" money it could make). As a publisher, Activision has shown such resolve before in turning passable or decent franchises into much stronger ones (Transformers). Why not take 5 years and make an exceptional Spidey game, rather than further diluting the brand?
Well, I guess times are tough and they need to sell something as the other brands are flopping this generation, so something has to see a steady release to pay the bills :/
Well, I guess times are tough and they need to sell something as the other brands are flopping this generation, so something has to see a steady release to pay the bills :/
HeresSomeWeapons
Member
This. By leaps and bounds.Criminal Upper said:
Pretty stoked about this game. Unfortunately, I think I'm gonna have to wait until it hits a sale since I'm already gonna have my hands full with Dark Souls and Arkham City. Though, it does break my heart a little bit to have to put Batman in front of Spidey.
davidjaffe said:
I agree 100 percent on that. As a die hard Spidey fan, it irks me that so many of his games completely ignore the Peter Parker aspect of the character. Sure, we love Spidey's cool powers, but we love and empathize with Peter Parker even moreso.
My ideal Spider-Man game would have two major things:
1) Open world, highly atmospheric and interactive New York. I'm thinking Red Dead Redemption and GTAIV levels of atmosphere (I think GTAIV, despite some of it's gameplay shortcoming compared to other GTAs, had superb atmosphere).
2) Storylines ripped straight from the comics. I'd love to see a historical approach to a Spider-Man game, encompassing his early days, down through the dark period. The game would still be open, but the missions would be broken up into comic book storylines and eras. The best stories of each particular stage in Spider-Man's existence, from his origin days, to Civil War.
You could actually have a franchise revolved around recreating his greatest moments in game form.
One of the game play mechanics that I love to play around with in my head is the idea that you can set up your camera's shutter timer, and take automatic photos of yourself as Spider-Man while you do cool stuff (web-slinging, beating up criminals, etc). These photos you sell to Jonah at the Daily Bugle for cash that helps you pay for upgrades, and for fun, Peter's rent.
Here's the rub: Jonah pays more money for photos of Spider-Man being an asshole. He'll give you $25 for that pic of Spidey laying out a thug, but he'll give you $100 for a pic of Spidey terrorizing an old lady on the street.
The player is then forced to decide between doing the right thing, for little reward, or doing the bad thing and getting your upgrades/rent taken care of sooner/easier.
The English Conquistador
Member
Hm, this wasn't on my radar until stumbling upon this thread, and proceeding to watch some of the intro to the game on youtube. It seems really good so far, great look to the game, and gameplay looks cool too. I'm tempted to buy it just because Val Kilmer is doing one of the voice overs.
Really wish this was on PC though. :/
Really wish this was on PC though. :/
LeonSKennedy90
Banned
Played about 45 minutes or so, holy FUCK is this game boring. The story isn't nearly as interesting as the game thinks it is, but it keeps on being emphasized anyway, missing a lot of the humor the first game had. You go from one boring looking building environment to the next, you just mash buttons to beat the badguys with almost the exact same animations from the first game. You can't even dodge anymore, just awkwardly jump out of the way hopefully or use one of your special powers whenever the game allows you to use it. Its like all the charm from the first game just got sucked out, and you just have this soulless button masher where you actively try to run away from the enemies because the combat isn't even fun.
This is why there are no reviews yet. Thank god I just rented this for 2.50 at Blockbuster :/
This is why there are no reviews yet. Thank god I just rented this for 2.50 at Blockbuster :/
LeonSKennedy90
Banned
No, you can dodge one time and then you have to wait for the bar to fill up.
I'm just mashing square and triangle and occasionally jumping and pulling triggers. Its not fun, challenging, inventive, or addictive. Its just so, so boring.
I'm just mashing square and triangle and occasionally jumping and pulling triggers. Its not fun, challenging, inventive, or addictive. Its just so, so boring.
Criminal Upper
Banned
Picked up Edge of Time today! But can't play until work is over.
In Beenox I trust though, as I really loved Shattered Dimensions, as it truly nailed the spider man dialog/tone/atmosphere/villains/etc.
I do agree having a brand new built from the ground up open world title where you play as Parker and Spidey would be amazing.
Imagine if as Parker, you had to chase leads on there whereabouts of villains, gather information from people in the Bugal, and take photo assignments in and around new york! You get paid by Jonah, and use the cash to buy moves/abilities!
In Beenox I trust though, as I really loved Shattered Dimensions, as it truly nailed the spider man dialog/tone/atmosphere/villains/etc.
I do agree having a brand new built from the ground up open world title where you play as Parker and Spidey would be amazing.
Imagine if as Parker, you had to chase leads on there whereabouts of villains, gather information from people in the Bugal, and take photo assignments in and around new york! You get paid by Jonah, and use the cash to buy moves/abilities!
AgentChris
Member
Been playing this for about 15 minutes and I'm loving it. The opening credits sequence is nicely done and the music is great. It's composed by Gerard Marino, who does the music for God of War. I hope Activision allows Beenox more dev time on their next project
Bazhard said:
But see, everyone knew that say Dark Souls was going to get a good review. Sometimes, I feel that's the problem with game reviewers. They spend so much time on high volume games, and not enough on smaller titles. If they want to get traffic, what better way than to be one of the few places to offer a review on a game that no one else has right now?
EasyTGT said:
The game certainly isn't "AAA" nor is it my ideal Spider-Man game. But it's a very solid game with a good amount of diversity in the levels and boss fights. Not to mention great writing and dialogue. There's a decent amount of swinging too, even though it's more of a beat-em up.
ShockingAlberto
Member
From what I've heard, it might be a good idea to lower your expectations for this game and perhaps place them on the game for next year.
Impressions aren't...good. And based on what I've heard about what Beenox is doing, I can see why.
Impressions aren't...good. And based on what I've heard about what Beenox is doing, I can see why.
LeonSKennedy90
Banned
Played it for two hours, refuse to play anymore. The game is straight up mediocre in almost every facet except voice acting. With two NBA games, Dark Souls, and RAGE out on the same day, I simply can't waste any more time on this piece of shit. Beenox can be good, but this yearly schedule is clearly screwing them up.
Looks exactly the same as the Wii version based on this footage.BDGAME said:
http://youtu.be/VTgBJCwywL0
http://youtu.be/qVWbShEVZUc
ShockingAlberto
Member
It's probably more that their attention is on the Amazing Spider-Man game for next Spring and this was because Activision wanted a game out for winter, too.LeonSKennedy90 said:
ShockingAlberto said:
Shame. As much as I really enjoyed Shattered Dimensions, by axing Noir and Ultimate it was already off my list. 2099 was the weakest of the original 4 as it was just a straight brawler and I'm really not interested in half a game of it.
I am curious as to the villain roster for this. Is it anywhere near as diverse as SD?
ShockingAlberto
Member
I believe the only villains they did not make up are Doctor Octous and Anti-Venom, but don't quote me on that.Bebpo said:
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