Inferno313
Banned
inane nitpicks are the opposite of criticism, so no.
Spider-Man: Homecoming |OT| MCU's Sweet 16 - SPOILERS
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inane nitpicks are the opposite of criticism, so no.
Man this is so true.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
why don't the avengers help each other out in their solo films?
*three years later*
why are the avengers helping each other out in their solo films?
Bobo Dakes
Member
So far I've participated in the
- Wonder Woman thread that was in response to that James Cameron interview.
- Kingsman 2 review thread.
- And now the Spider-Man thread after ignoring it for month because I didn't want to be Mr. Negative right away.
Results were all different, but all were weird time sinks. Think I dipped my toe far enough into film gaf. It's been interesting.
I jot some stuff down on my phone when I go home. Write a proper review within the next few days for my website.
- Wonder Woman thread that was in response to that James Cameron interview.
- Kingsman 2 review thread.
- And now the Spider-Man thread after ignoring it for month because I didn't want to be Mr. Negative right away.
Results were all different, but all were weird time sinks. Think I dipped my toe far enough into film gaf. It's been interesting.
I jot some stuff down on my phone when I go home. Write a proper review within the next few days for my website.
You spent roughly a dozen pages in the CA:Civil War thread criticising things that were directly, explicitly addressed in the film, so...
I think the problem is that Subpar Spatula seems to actively take pleasure in envisioning himself as the lone voice of sanity and insight in conversations filled with clumsy and unenlightened posters in relation to himself, when in actuality, he seems to just seems to constantly (and instinctively) rally behind a contrarian standpoint, even if such a standpoint relies on fault-finding to a pedantic and overscrupulous degree, so much so it becomes almost farcical in comparison to any kind of genuine, perceptive criticism. At least, that's how his arguments always seem to come across.
god we need Doom in the MCU
I think I'll reread Hickman's whole run now and ponder what could be
I agree on Facebook parents post pics of there kids not the other way around. Maybe a picture of birthdays or celebrations but then there will be so many adults in those photos how do you know who the parents are.
Also, Liz's mom is the active one. She's the one who goes to school functions, she's the one who's there to get Liz after the events in Washington. Her father is away a lot, always coming and going for work. Social media pics will show the mother, because she's the one being social.
Oh, and this is certainly the most absurd criticism of the movie I've heard...and there have been a LOT.
Oh, and this is certainly the most absurd criticism of the movie I've heard...and there have been a LOT.
CoolestSpot
Banned
Yeah if anything I expect this, with Ned getting jealous and everything. Or they introduce HobGoblin just to go aganist the expectation of who the villian will be in some sense, if they feel need to include a Goblin at some point.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
then wouldn't liz and her father's relationship be strained a bit? they seem perfectly fine for someone who's never around.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
I want it to be Oscorp but I'd be fine if they don't go Goblin in this iteration. I'd rather they take the Thunderbolts/Dark Reign approach to Osborn instead of making him an over the top costumed villain. Hobgoblin without ties to Green Goblin also works.
MugiwaraCole
Member
I've been enjoying trying to guess what he's bitching about this time since I can't see their posts anymore. Sounds like they think Peter not seeing a picture of Toomes on Liz's twitter feed before is a plot hole.
Nvm the fact Peter could've seen the man before, online or in person, and not really registered who he is because he wasn't anyone important. Entirely plausible he wouldn't recognize the villain he's fighting now as the man he ran into once or twice or at a school function that might've been Liz's father. I've looked at the social media feeds of a few women I've liked (who hasn't?). The few pictures of their parents I've seen didn't register much with me, because that wasn't what I was there for, so I didn't remember what their folks looked like after the fact. I just kinda scrolled past them and didn't bother committing them to memory.
Imagine seriously arguing that this derails the plot of a movie when it's easily explained away a number of ways.
What a moron.
CoolestSpot
Banned
That works too, have be him be the man behind the scenes. I was just saying HobGoblin cause they could play it up like it's Obsorn as the villian until some twist at the end. Again I'd prefer Kingpin for a man behind the scenes, but that's as likely to happen as Doom in the MCU, so...
Inferno313
Banned
this is getting fucking stupid.
the film isn't fucking about the marital problems of the Toomes/Bryant household. Maybe they're the type of couple who keep their problems relegated to their private moments together. Maybe Liz's mom knew what she was getting into and understands. Maybe they're both getting side-dick/chicks on the reg and don't care.
Maybe it doesn't fucking matter because this is irrelevant to what the movie is actually about and is just more inane nitpicking from someone who has no idea what the fuck they're talking about and just wants to satisfy a craving for attention by being a contrarian at every turn.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
They think he's absent often because he's working so hard to give them a comfortable life. They're obviously appreciative of what he's provided for them. They don't know he's always out there cuz he's doing seedy shit and spending all his time trying to cash in on spreading death and destruction for a fat payday.
CoolestSpot
Banned
Who? Sliver Sable? I mean I guess we're all gonna do that anyway.
Twig and Berries
Member
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
Attempting serious debate with Subpar Spatula
IN 2017
IN 2017
But he's/she's like the proto-Gaf-user. The punishment for all out sins. The Armond White of everything.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
I just used the ignore feature for the first time in years.
Sort of on point, but there's definitely a cycle to these threads that when the movie hits VOD, the not-so-attentive crowd comes out and starts telling everyone else that the movie is no big deal. Same thing in the Wonder Woman thread, or really any tentpole film that's well received.
I get it, if you weren't interested enough to see it in the theater, maybe you won't be as positive on the subject matter. But when it gets to "this didn't make sense" stuff that seems to be just because people weren't paying attention, it gets old.
Certain people wear this mentality like a badge of Honor. Star wars, cape stuff, even frickin Fury Road and Moonlight.
Inferno313
Banned
he's pretty cool I guess
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Basically the back half of every Marvel movie thread is a circular discussion with people explaining things that explicitly happened in the movie to people who were half-watching it on their couch while playing with their phones.
"Zemo's motivation made no sense."
"Iron Man retired and now he's back in the suit."
"Starlord is immortal now this is lame no stakes."
"Why doesn't anyone talk about Uncle Ben."
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
Spider-Man is shit
...
Who is Spider-Man, anyway?
You're itching to write your own movie, right? Why are you adding subtext that is clearly not intended or necessary?
Ned. Like, duh
Subpar Spatula
Banned
My movie wasn't picked up by Warner Brothers.
It's discussing a movie, a movie where they leave a twist at the end. I can't talk about the convenient omission of Peter not knowing before hand?
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
To be fair, Zemo's motivation made perfect sense but he was dull as dishwater. But don't get me started on Civil War. I think it's completely middle-of-the-road or slightly worse and people fucking love that movie.
And I do wish they'd namedropped Uncle Ben. But no big deal. The only thing I didn't care for was the overly-powerful suit stealing a lot of Peter's thunder.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Sure they coulda said his name but to claim he has no presence in the movie (people were actually arguing that maybe he's not actually dead in this) or Peter has no motivation because he's not still clearly heartbroken over the loss is what I'm talking about.
Don't worry...I've got your back on that one, mate.
Thought Civil War was pretty poor as a film in its own right, even if it had a lot of fun moments.
Or maybe he's just full shit and likes to bait arguments.
Bobo Dakes
Member
I'm not taking the bait.
I'm not taking the bait.
I'm not taking the bait.
I'm not taking the bait.
I'm not taking the bait.
Saw the movie opening night by the way.
Or that.
I really wanted one part at the end was for Peter to denounce the suit and just ask for it to be wound back to training wheels protocol, in an admission that he doesn't need any of that to be Spider-man, thus completing that character story.
Bobo Dakes
Member
The parachute was a nice addition, but everything that came after that was excessive to me. Going back to training wheels after all that would be a weird handicap though.
Yeah, it was fun, but they needed to complete that arc by having peter realise that all that's not needed and explicitly retire it all.
I mean, he denounced the iron-spider suit, and being an avenger, so that's there, but if he's walking away with basically another iron-man suit, it's not that different, hey?
MugiwaraCole
Member
Parachute addition made sense since Tony is trying to protect Peter (overzealously, which is the point), but i hate it robbed us of one of Peter's cooler genius moments in the comics, where he falls from a fucking satellite to Earth, and lives.
Inferno313
Banned
idk he just posted in that dental thread that teeth are arbitrary and that soap is a capitalistic scam, i think he might be all the way down this rabbit hole.
Maybe he's a good father when he IS around? Not all that hard to think of an alternative that doesn't require one to go to such ludicrous lengths to try to find something stupid to nitpick the movie about. A father who is (sometimes) absent for periods of time doesn't always mean an asshole father who shows no affection to his children & has no relationship with them. Maybe he has some periods of time when there isn't much to steal and that's when he spends some more time with his family and spends that time with them well.
I mean, he can't be "never around" when we see him spending time with his family even at a time when he's about to do his biggest heist.
How come the Avengers never pee? Their missions can take days, they wear these complicated bodysuits, they're running and jumping all the time, and there's no toilet on their tiny ass Avenger planes. They only bothered to explain it for Iron Man with his filtration thing and actually showing him peeing on screen. What about Cap? Black Widow? Black Panther?
These movies are full of plotholes man
These movies are full of plotholes man
Pai Pai Master
Banned
He obviously installed that technology in all of the Avengers gear including Hulk's stretchy pants. Pay attention next time
LTTP
This movie is amazing. Everything just hit the right notes for me. The dialogue, the comedy, Peter Parker, the villain(s), motherfucking Flash Thompson...everything is great.
I already thoroughly enjoyed the movie, but then it took it up a notch with Peter meeting Toomes face to face. Fuck me, so good. Keaton absolutely killed it.
The only thing I would've liked is either one or two additional licensed tracks or better original soundtracks (they're not bad, but forgettable).
This movie is amazing. Everything just hit the right notes for me. The dialogue, the comedy, Peter Parker, the villain(s), motherfucking Flash Thompson...everything is great.
I already thoroughly enjoyed the movie, but then it took it up a notch with Peter meeting Toomes face to face. Fuck me, so good. Keaton absolutely killed it.
The only thing I would've liked is either one or two additional licensed tracks or better original soundtracks (they're not bad, but forgettable).
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Just saw this recently. Overall its pretty nice. I like how intimate/personal it is. Felt more like a normal movie than a superhero movie since it only got as large as a heavy armor suit brawl over jet cargo. That restraint is impressive for Marvel and I hope to see more of it. Spiderman is the iconic one for personal stories but they could easily go that way with Black Panther, Black Widow, Hawkeye, etc. Im glad they skipped the origin story but woth him being an amateur it still kinda feels like one. Id REALLY like a veteran Spiderman movie, but that will probably never happen. That said, this kid got punked dozens of times. Will he get spidey sense in the future?
Another issue Im uncertain of is the characterization of supports. His friend isnt Osborn... uh okay I guess to keep people from clamoring for essentially remakes of the other Spiderman movies? Flash is not a jock, but some rich kid who is just a tool and may or may not be popular? Uhhh... dont really get it, or at least they didnt sell how influential Flash was at all. But then we get MJ who just seems like intentionally opposite from Mary Jane?
Out of his league vs Taken for granted by his side
Popular & kind vs Loser edgelord
Aloof to Peters affections vs Peter is aloof to hers
Seems to have everything going for her vs Possibly depressive and friendless
Do they just figure demographics and what youth perspectives have changed, or are they just going for feshness for the sake of being fresh? Im betting theyll even swap keeps his secret from her to her keeping it a secret that she knows hes Spiderman.
Another issue Im uncertain of is the characterization of supports. His friend isnt Osborn... uh okay I guess to keep people from clamoring for essentially remakes of the other Spiderman movies? Flash is not a jock, but some rich kid who is just a tool and may or may not be popular? Uhhh... dont really get it, or at least they didnt sell how influential Flash was at all. But then we get MJ who just seems like intentionally opposite from Mary Jane?
Out of his league vs Taken for granted by his side
Popular & kind vs Loser edgelord
Aloof to Peters affections vs Peter is aloof to hers
Seems to have everything going for her vs Possibly depressive and friendless
Do they just figure demographics and what youth perspectives have changed, or are they just going for feshness for the sake of being fresh? Im betting theyll even swap keeps his secret from her to her keeping it a secret that she knows hes Spiderman.