You kiddin'? It's the first time we had ever seen Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman on film for the first time. Those 3 are pretty much the most popular Superheroes in the West.
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Spider-Man: Homecoming review thread [92% RT]
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You kiddin'? It's the first time we had ever seen Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman on film for the first time. Those 3 are pretty much the most popular Superheroes in the West.
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Wonder woman made a cameo and superman's last two film grosses says all that needs to be said about his current popularity with movie goers. Even suicide squad handedly beat him despite having film that was critically rated far worse. Keep in mind Man of steel came of the back of the dark knight trilogy with Christopher Nolan producing and great trailers and butts were still not in seats.
Didn't Batman just came from back-to-back +400 million dollar domestic movies (i think DKR even went past 500)? The novelty of him interacting with Superman (and Wondy) who just headlined a 300 million dollar domestic movie should've been more than enough to propel it past the domestic gross of a movie about a bunch of Marvel D-listers like GotG.
The fact that it did not is testament to the quality disparity between BvS and GotG.
The fact that it did not is testament to the quality disparity between BvS and GotG.
Oh come on!!!
What am I supposed to see there ---- that they use Spiderman PS4 game picture for Homecoming review article or the fact that the news highlight Jumanji trailer more?
Yeah the new Spider-Man game from Insomniac Games looks so good that they mistakenly took a screenshot from the game instead of the movie.
Thought it was pretty amusing.
CaviarMeths
Member
This hasn't been true since like 1950.
because the rt percentage is the percentage of critics that liked the film, not the average score. the average score on rt is currently at 7.7, which isn't far off from metacritic's 74.
Take a gander who sells the most merch worldwide in terms of superheroes even when they ain't got shit comin out
Go ahead guess
It's Spider-Man
broncobuster
Banned
Rotten Tomatoes is binary like/dislike. Meaning a 2.5 out of 4 and 4 out of 4 tend to have the same value. It's up to the reviewers to choose fresh or rotten.
That's exactly why I said "pretty much" and not "the most popular". Seemed irrelevant to bring up Spidey when the comment was about a DC movie.
But thanks for the trivia everyone knows.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
But you said "pretty much the most popular"....
Lifejumper
Member
Metacritic reviews are weighted.
You said those three are pretty much the most popular in the west. Those were your exact words.
You were very very wrong
lol Superman being in the top three in the west in 2017
You can't say pretty much the most popular for three characters and hand wave it when you're wrong. They ain't! One of them sure, but not all three.Did the term "pretty much" stop meaning what it has always meant?
The Holy Trinity is, like, Superhero royalty. Just because Batman is more liked doesn't mean Superman and Wonder Woman aren't, show anyone a picture of them in America, and they will instantly know who they are, all 3 are ingrained in America's pop culture DNA.
Recognizable =/= popularity
I'm sure a lot of kids can recognize Mickey Mouse. Doesn't mean kids are all super crazy for Mickey Mouse outside the setting of Disneyland.
Whereas the success of characters like Iron Man, Doctor Strange, Ant-Man etc. are based around characters who had neither going for them before their movies came out.
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CaviarMeths
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Who's the lobster man
Lifejumper
Member
Watch spectacular spider-man
True, but there's no way Dr Strange and Ant-Man are even close to the levels of the trinity, Iron-Man, Spidey, Cap etc.
Man you complained that a Spider-Man movie was fuckin funny
Your shtick is one of the most tired of people who post in the DCEU thread and needs a touch up, I'd be surprised if it was damn near anyone else, but it bein you is just lolworthy at this point.
People havin fuckin gimmicks like it's a wrestlin show or some shit
I wouldn't expect any them to be. Spidey is near-fucking-untouchable in terms of superheroes, and Iron Man has RDJ. But give Dr. Strange and Ant-Man a post-Avengers boost and a good-looking sequel, and I'd imagine their popularity only rises. Civil War only did Ant-Man a favor for those that maybe skipped his solo movie. Neither Thor or Cap's first films were anything more than reasonable hits either. Not by the expectations we talk about comic movies just 5 years later.
Wonder Woman is set for a sequel, especially with the returning creative duo of Patty Jenkins and Geoff Johns ensuring some solid footing. Let's wait for Justice League to see how much audiences can really be bothered to give a shit about this interpretation of Superman anymore.
Messofanego
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I love BronsonLee's gimmick of being always a jobber.
This Superman is done. I wouldn't be surprised if WB push Wonder Woman into the role he was supposed to take. Personally, I'm hoping his return brings him back as a more of an amalgam of Reeves and MoS Supermen (I still think Cavill is a good fit, he's just been given a depressing character to play).
One can only hope that with Snyder's heavy Frank Miller influence lessened, the talk from Johns about striving for optimism, Jenkins' sincerity, etc., they actually can salvage that corner of this universe. I'm convinced Batman, Aquaman, and Wonder Woman will be perfectly fine, but it's a bad look when Superman is so utterly depressing and disposable. Cavill could've potentially played a more sympathetic character, and Eisenberg aside, both his movies have excellent casts who could've been the perfect interpretations of their characters. All the jokes about "Superman needs to be always smiling" aside, you should be able to come away from a Superman movie uplifted, not depressed or simply indifferent.
As a huge Superman fanboy, I couldn't agree more. I'd like to think that the interpretation of Superman in the comics at the time of MoS and BvS played a small role in the characterisation we got. The New 52 reboot Supes was horrible compared to what we got before and a failed attempt at modernization. Fortunately with Rebirth we've get a best of both worlds Supes now, and hopefully DC can push that forward to the big screen.
Yup. There were totally valid and compelling questions Snyder chose to ask with his movies, and there is value there. But he completely fumbled the execution for his oppressive tone and disinterest into the actual sympathetic inner-workings of the character.
DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A PROBLEM WITH SPIDER-MAN THOUGH
he said trying to steer this back on topic.
MugiwaraCole
Member
Doesn't really matter. He's Superman. They're the Guardiajs of the Galaxy. They're not playing on an even field.
His struggles in cinema have nothing to do with his popularity and everything to do with WB struggling to make a movie worth a damn. Trying to argue otherwise doesn't make sense when you're using the same post to shrug at the Guardians of the fucking Galaxy being successful.
Glass Rebel
Member
94%
Spidey settling at 94% would be spectacular because it'd put him right next to Iron Man, Raimi-Man 2 and TDK.
It's 94%, you're spreading misinformation!
TDK should be 100% .
MC is awful for movies.
Glass Rebel
Member
Well it isn't.
94%
god i love that shot
especially since they had a sound effect for the mechanism that controls his eyes and it sounds so good