Sora the Cat
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Can I see this without watching the other Marvel movies? I just don't like superheroes movies in general but I Love Spiderman. But I saw that Iron Man guy was on the trailer so I guess the stories are connected?
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Spider-Man: Homecoming review thread [92% RT]
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Just read the plot of Civil War on Wikipedia
Inferno313
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Most of the MCU movies can honestly be enjoyed standalone just fine. There might be some references and such that go over your head, but the narrative of this film won't outright require some other films to get. If you just care about Spidey's story, then maybe check out Captain America: Civil War. That one introduces this take on Spidey, and sets up the Iron Man / Spider-Man friendship. Although, I also think you'll be fine just jumping in here though, seems like they do a good job at recapping the stuff that happened regarding Spidey in Civil War.
Sora the Cat
Member
Alright
Cool, I think I will at least watch the Civil War movie before. Thanks!
Primethius
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You're fine jumping in on most Marvel movies as standalone movies. My wife only watches a select few Marvel flicks all over the timeline and has no trouble enjoying them.
Fancyarcher
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It's standalone enough from what I've heard.
broncobuster
Banned
If you have a vague sense of who Tony Stark/Iron Man is, you'll be fine. It's one of the more standalone Marvel movies.
Just watch the Civil War trailer and understand that Iron Man recruited Peter for the Civil War event. Most of that is recapped in the first 10 minutes.
It also kinda helps to know what happens at the end of The Avengers (spoilers.. Aliens show up and destroy New York)
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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It's the most stand alone MCU film since... I don't even know. I was gonna say Ant-Man, but not even that.
There are clear references to Civil War and
The Avengers
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
The Winter Soldier? It's a sequel that always felt pretty standalone to me but you got some connections to the MCU like Black Widow and Fury.
Sora the Cat
Member
Thanks for the answers everyone. I will watch Civil War and perhaps another one before going in, even tho it's not that important. Perhaps it's time for me to jump on the superheroes hype train and get what the fuzz is about with this new Marvel movies.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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That's got a whole lot of back story from Cap 1 though, and maybe the avengers. Homecoming only has civil war, and the relevant parts are told at the beginning of the movie.
Watch Iron man 2, Peter Parker is also in this
Inferno313
Banned
broncobuster
Banned
I'd argue Civil War also isn't very relevant.
All you really need to know is it's a world with superheroes out and about.
The Avengers also plays a role in Homecoming. I'd say Doctor Strange is more stand alone than Spider-Man
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
Yeah, I suppose you're right.
I believe you can just watch this clip from Civil War and they go over the rest basically in Homecoming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J8CR7Qg4xg
Zeyphersan
Banned
I feel like Civil War would make less sense before Spider-Man: Homecoming because that movie is not super standalone, rather than just watching Homecoming on its own
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
Member
To be a tad more specific
- Tom Holland feels like a much better spider-man/Peter Parker than Maguire did, mainly because they get the teenage hero starting out bit right, cos being spider-man not only screws up both aspects of his life, but at the beginning, he also kinda sucks at it and regularly gets his arsed kicked.
- They get the teenage bit right in general. And their version of modern new york and modern high school in more belivable than Sam Raimi's combination of 60s/90s idealised New York.
- It's the most standalone Marvel film since... I'm not sure, really. Maybe the first iron man even? First captain america?
- It keeps the action relatively small and localised, no world ending stakes or giant robots or drone armies.
- It really is kind of a teen film with superheroes in it. Also, they don't overuse Stark, he's in it for about 5 minutes total.
- The vulture is a great bad guy, and his motivation/fights are pretty good too.
- Tom Holland feels like a much better spider-man/Peter Parker than Maguire did, mainly because they get the teenage hero starting out bit right, cos being spider-man not only screws up both aspects of his life, but at the beginning, he also kinda sucks at it and regularly gets his arsed kicked.
- They get the teenage bit right in general. And their version of modern new york and modern high school in more belivable than Sam Raimi's combination of 60s/90s idealised New York.
- It's the most standalone Marvel film since... I'm not sure, really. Maybe the first iron man even? First captain america?
- It keeps the action relatively small and localised, no world ending stakes or giant robots or drone armies.
- It really is kind of a teen film with superheroes in it. Also, they don't overuse Stark, he's in it for about 5 minutes total.
- The vulture is a great bad guy, and his motivation/fights are pretty good too.
All he needs to know is that an alien invasion happened in Avengers leaving alien tech all over the place. And in Civil War Tony recruits Peter for his first huge battle with other heroes, and that Peter really looks up to Tony, ever since he saw him at that expedition in Iron Man 2.
Now its confirmed to be great.Just got back from seeing this a couple of hours ago.
Looking forward to the sequel.
And time to go on the blackout.
See you guys!
broncobuster
Banned
To use a super crude analogy, it'd be like watching Attack of the Clones before Star Wars. You'd have context for what the Clone Wars are, but it's ultimately more confusing. That said, Civil War is a good movie worth watching. It's just not necessary for enjoying Spider-Man Homecoming .
Zeyphersan
Banned
Agreed its a good movie, but I would never tell someone to START their MCU watching there
whaaaaaaatJust got back from seeing this a couple of hours ago.
Looking forward to the sequel.
i'm genuinely surprised that you're positive on this. as someone who has been similarly skeptic of the film up until recently, what about it did you like?
I'm happy to repost my brief over-view of the film from the spoiler thread! I've made sure to edit out any spoiler related information for this thread, so keep in mind it's a little more sparse on specific detail as a review:
Happy to answer any questions if you have them. But overall, I definitely enjoyed the film.
Rumblebones
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Might wanna edit out some spoilers there, chief.
The suit AI ain't a big deal, but I don't think people would want to know about it beforehand.
Really? It's featured pretty prominently in the trailers.
This is not a spoiler at all. It has been all over the trailers and in interviews.
thanks for your impressions! i think my opinion on the last few comic book movies from this year has lined up pretty closely with yours, which should mean that they'll line up again for spidey.
how was the action direction? i've read/heard some pretty mixed reactions about this.
No problem! Genuinely amazed anyone could find my presence here memorable enough to remember anything I have to say about comic book movies, so thank you for that.
The action is...competently directed. It's not particularly noticeable in either department. There's one particular sequence at night-time which was extremely chaotic visually, to such an extent that I was having a hard time following what was going on. There's a lot of extremely energetic and fluid fight choreography though, especially when Spider-Man is fighting regular criminals on the ground, as well as when he's zipping around the city. Overall, I was satisfied with it!
There's definitely a very palpable John Hughes vibe to the film, both tonally and stylistically (especially in relation to films like The Breakfast Club). But yeah, Peter is often so caught up in his world...he spends very little time actually interacting with anyone other than Ned, so the film gets very little time to develop any of the other high school characters. I definitely liked those characters and thought they were extremely well played by their respective actors, I just felt they were a little undercooked. Hopefully that's something the writers will be able to focus on in the sequel.
MoonsaultSlayer
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When does that "film by Peter Parker" take place? After the Rhodes incident or after the whole of Civil War?
It just seems odd.
It just seems odd.
Laieon
Member
I really liked it, but I still think Andrew Garfield is my favorite of the trio.
During Civil War. It literally ends with him flying into the fray at the airport.
One of my biggest complaints was that I loved the high school parts, but everything else just felt a bit generic. I would have honestly been okay if there was no major villain and they allowed more time for the high school crew.
During Civil War. It literally ends with him flying into the fray at the airport.
One of my biggest complaints was that I loved the high school parts, but everything else just felt a bit generic. I would have honestly been okay if there was no major villain and they allowed more time for the high school crew.
Inferno313
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Fwiw, you're one of my favorite posters in these comic-book movie threads!
Thanks for the overview! It sounds really fun. I'm seeing it Saturday night, can't wait!
Certinty
Member
Awesome movie that did the Spider-Man I grew up with justice.
People applauded at the end of the movie, never have I had that before in the cinema. Also the 'big reveal' caused a lot of reactions from viewers, another thing I haven't really experienced much.
Besides some characters being underveloped and a few minor stuff the movie is still definitely among my fave superhero movies ever.
9/10 for me. More or less everything I wanted.
People applauded at the end of the movie, never have I had that before in the cinema. Also the 'big reveal' caused a lot of reactions from viewers, another thing I haven't really experienced much.
Besides some characters being underveloped and a few minor stuff the movie is still definitely among my fave superhero movies ever.
9/10 for me. More or less everything I wanted.
MoonsaultSlayer
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Sorry, should have clarified that I meant the end of the film when he's dropped off.
ArkkAngel007
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You mean by where does the final bit of it fall? Right when Tony and Peter return to the US. Haven't watched Civil War since video release, so wherever that makes sense, but it's post Rhodes. Certainly after Cap, Bucky, and Stark have their showdown.
Edit: But before the credits scene with Peter iirc
Aw, thanks man!
Hope you enjoy the film on Saturday!Yeah, that was an amazing moment that really elevated the film for me. That whole scene and the one following it were the absolute highlights of the movie.
Zeyphersan
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You people are making me impatient as FUCK. Im still 36 hours away from starting
Prerequisites for watching Marvel movies is way too overstated. None of the films are complicated and require pretty minimal knowledge going in. They can all be enjoyed as stand-alone films. Sure you get a little more out of seeing them, because characters have established relationships so when they jump into dialog with each other you already know the dynamic and history there - but it isn't required to understand the plot.
If you've never seen any of the MCU films before all you really need is Iron Man 1, and Cap 2. Those were the best of the best, and anything else you need to know in preparation for a new film can be summarized online. I've seen em all. They are all great. But none of them are really "required" viewing.
BronsonLee
Member
SpaceWolf liking it just solidifies my thoughts on the movie further
That I'm gonna HATE it
That I'm gonna HATE it
Certinty
Member
I don't know, I had insane expectations for that one but ended up loving it anyway. Was just so perfect in its own way.