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Spider-Man is Entering The Marvel Cinematic Universe
- Thread starter Colonel Nasty
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Brazil201 for Spiderman. I'm 22 and look 17
Well it's a better way of being a superhero, that's for sure.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Sony leak suggests fairly recent.
Sony production had Sinister6 and Venom in preproduction too and they are on hold ready to be manipulated or cancelled now to fall in line with the MCU.
It's safe to assume that it's been talked about for a long time but only got really rolling post Sony leak.
Garfield getting the chop wasn't something Sony had planned for I don't think.
bananafactory
Banned
I think a deal was in place to have the Oscorp Tower in The Avengers but the design for it wasn't finalized in time so they had to scrap it.
This has been in the pipes for quite some time, at least to some degree. Disney and Sony did come to an agreement where Oscorp Tower would be included in the New York skyline in The Avengers, but that agreement came too late for the VFX guys to edit it in and deliver the movie in time. So yeah, I think it's safe to say Disney and Sony have talking superheroes for about 2 years now, but to what extend, is a massive unknown at this point.
Ninja Scooter
Member
He ate Jon's lasagna one too many times.
DontBeThatGuy
Member
I don't think it actually matters. It's Spider-Man, not a new big-budget property with a ton of risk involved. He's respected, and a proven talent, regardless of how Tomorrowland does.
Gambit 1138
Banned
Brad Bird, Sam Raimi, Damien Chazelle, joe Cornish, James gunn, and the Russo bros are my top picks for who should direct.
NeonZ
Member
The leaks indicated that they were planning on dropping Garfield anyway, and could even even have used the Sinister Six to introduce the new Spider-Man.
No, you misunderstand. If Tomorrowland is a huge hit, he might not want to do Spider-man next (or at all).
I dont care if hes a teenager. I want Sonys shit-movies not in Marvels Cinematic Universe. Why create a great universe like this and fill it then with Third-Party shit? Spidey can stay away when thats what we get then.
Or are suddenly Sonys Spider-Verse Movies good? Or Aunt May movies something we want? The last time I checked you all are a very different opinion
Why is a controlled Hulk fighting Spidey?
Money was the reason.
cantona222
Member
Sony is the bigger winner here. Marvel Studios will make Spidey shine and ready for a new Solo movie.
He was ok in the movies, but that wasn't spiderman.
DontBeThatGuy
Member
No, you misunderstand. If Tomorrowland is a huge hit, he might not want to do Spider-man next (or at all).
Yep. Sorry about that. I hope it's good, and is a hit, as I'd rather see Bird working on more original ideas. There's plenty of young, hungry directors that could use a big break like this.
https://twitter.com/benfritz/status/565023382241312768
OK, when this is the official status, than its likely canned.
I am ok with this.
OK, when this is the official status, than its likely canned.
I am ok with this.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
The thing I don't get is why are they even calling this Marvel Civil War film "Captain America: Civil War".
IMO it just downplays how epic the film is now. It should just be called "Marvel Civil War".
The film is way bigger than just Captain America.
IMO it just downplays how epic the film is now. It should just be called "Marvel Civil War".
The film is way bigger than just Captain America.
IndoAssassin
Banned
#DEAD
Maybe because the deal they signed with Chris Evans includes 3 standalone Cap America movies?
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
That doesn't mean they have to keep the title. I severely doubt film contracts have title stipulations.
I don't think this will end up being true. It's a Captain America movie at the core, and will probably end up feeling more like a sequel to Winter Soldier than an Avengers movie in any way. The fact that a number of other Marvel characters will be popping up is irrelevant. Don't confuse fans getting excited for yet another cameo in the film with how "epic" it is going to be.
Callibretto
Member
So Sony is still moving forward with female character from spider-man movie? what are the chances for Spider-Gwen movie set in alternate universe, which they could later brought in to MCU via Dr Strange since supposedly Dr Strange MCU deal with that sort of thing.
Manmademan
Member
Zero.
Generic Power Ranger
Member
Man. This kinda sucks.
I know that the amazing spiderman movies are hated around here, but I really liked them. Thought they were a lot better than the old trilogy too. I also don't think that spiderman fits well into marvels cinematic universe, and yes, I know comics etc.
And come on, people who claim quality will only go up. Around half of marvels films are good, yeah, but the other half is average.
Iron man, Iron man 3, Avengers are all good. Supposedly captain america 2 is also really good but I haven't seen that one yet.
However..
Captain America, Iron man 2, Thor, Thor 2 (supposedly, haven't seen thor 2 either) are all pretty meh movies.
So it's not like they have a consistent high bar set in stone.
Oh well. It's happening.gif, still, that doesn't mean I have to agree with it. I do hope the new stuff is going to be great though. It's a damn shame they aren't continuing the storyline and are rebooting again though, especially because garfield was really good in the role.
I know that the amazing spiderman movies are hated around here, but I really liked them. Thought they were a lot better than the old trilogy too. I also don't think that spiderman fits well into marvels cinematic universe, and yes, I know comics etc.
And come on, people who claim quality will only go up. Around half of marvels films are good, yeah, but the other half is average.
Iron man, Iron man 3, Avengers are all good. Supposedly captain america 2 is also really good but I haven't seen that one yet.
However..
Captain America, Iron man 2, Thor, Thor 2 (supposedly, haven't seen thor 2 either) are all pretty meh movies.
So it's not like they have a consistent high bar set in stone.
Oh well. It's happening.gif, still, that doesn't mean I have to agree with it. I do hope the new stuff is going to be great though. It's a damn shame they aren't continuing the storyline and are rebooting again though, especially because garfield was really good in the role.
" I don't know. Just, uh... Um... I don't know, we could, I don't know, we could uh... Or we could do something else, or we could, with no... We, like, we could... "
"Yeah"
"Yeah? "
"Yeah, either one. "
"C H E M I S T R Y" #chemistry #reblog
Loved that scene, it was cute.
Cap 2 was AMAZING! You really should watch it.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
I think MovieBob is just dreaming big.
Still, doesnt sound that far fetched to me.
Before Disney bought Lucasfilm and Marvel, we would have said the same.
There was a thread last month that pointed out Disney makes huge news in buying out companies (Pixar, Marvel, Lucas Films ect) every 3 years.... This year being another big buy.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=962395
Callibretto
Member
but why Sony, I was under impression their movie division is not that huge, lacking exploitable franchise other than Spider-Man and James Bond, which Sony doesn't owned themselves.
It's not going to be either of those.
Probably because Sony's Spider-Man films are ass.
I love Spidey but I want better movies and I want Spidey in the better Comic Movie Universe.
darkhunger
Member
Columbia Pictures is one of the major studios so depending on the year they can fluctuate from #1 to #7 in terms of revenues. They had the #1 spot as recent as 2012. So they aren't small by any means.
However you are right in that they don't own many franchises that's worth significant cash. They just focus less on blockbuster franchises than other studios do.
The biggest reason for Disney to even buy them is Spider Man. But this deal takes away that reason, not reinforces it.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
Marvel is not getting any box office revenue from any non-crossover Spider-Man movies.
Buying Sony would change that.
darkhunger
Member
The last Spider Man film made less than $100M in profits for Sony, based on the leaked emails. Plus filmmaking is inherently risky. They aren't missing much considering they already make upwards of $1B per year on Spider-Man merchandising. It's simply not worth it. They're better off letting Sony continue to make free commercials for their toys.
Haloid1177
Banned
But those were still better than both TASM films. So, um, yeah.
Also, anyone else scared shitless of Sony still having control of spinoff films outside of Spidey himself. Them pushing forward with Sinister Six and Venom without being under Marvel's control scares the shit out of me. Especially if they try to force those films in MCU canon.
Given the presence of Cap's supporting cast and Baron Zemo, it's clearly still a Cap movie, not an Avengers movie. Iron Man and Black Panther are in, but it's still going to revolve around Cap.
Sigh.
TimFL
Member
Yeah until Sony makes another SM3/TASM2. It'd taint the MCU.
darkhunger
Member
Im sure Marvel's equally scared about those prospects. They probably have something in the contract prohibiting Sony from using the MCU setting without Marvel's involvement. It's probably the same as Marvel using Spider-Man in their movies, which by all accounts will have Sony vet over and approve every detail of his appearance.
The whole point of this deal is so Marvel can help fix Spider-Man. If you think Kevin Feige will let Sony screw with the MCU then you're vastly underestimating the Marvel machine.
They aren't forced into canon. They will be canon. The new Spider-Man film is part of the MCU any spin-offs of it by proxy are as well.