Or you know its like it was reviewed by 2 different people with differing opinions.
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Splinter Cell Blacklist reviews
- Thread starter CrunchinJelly
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Or you know its like it was reviewed by 2 different people with differing opinions.
Vermillion
Banned
Thus far it sounds like the same, but:
- No screen tearing
- Framerate dips
- Easier switching weapons
- No local multi
I was debating picking this up for wiiU, but I just watched the game trailers review as this game looks like everything I don't like in games. Streamlined, by-the-numbers affair without interesting characters. Also looks to lack polish.
Looking at all the 9s this got and SR4 got....I don't know if I really trust 9s anymore.
Looking at all the 9s this got and SR4 got....I don't know if I really trust 9s anymore.
I think in the context of that quote, the EDGE reviewer is more critical of the series in general having to be "more more more" because it is no longer as slow and cerebral as Chaos Theory. In this way, he's trying to say that one guard in Chaos Theory provided more tension than say half a dozen in Blacklist because Sam Fisher is faster, more deadly, etc (except Chaos Theory already did that). I don't really get the fascination with "amg daytime, stealth is ruined" when stealth gameplay is more than just checking off boxes to see if it is dark and there is sneaking.
Not to say Blacklist sounds like a typical TPS either as most reviewers seem to have noticed stealth is the best/most satisfying way to play the game.
...is really one line I don't understand when every other reviewer seems to point out the fact that even if the SP story is a load of dreck and some of the action sequences are utter shit, the game shines in level design and was built for experimentation/replayability.EDGE said:
Yup. Probably the Splinter Cell game I'm least looking forward to playing in history. I thought conviction was OK.
If you're looking for more level headed reviews, I find Eurogamer are among the best these days.
Ein Bear
Member
Is this true, or is it just a case of them not implementing a way for one player to play on the TV and the other to play on the GamePad? Or is basic splitscreen not in the Wii U version either?
Barry Burton
Member
Without making a judgment either way on the review for Blacklist, I appreciate that Edge doesn't subscribe to the "AAA games get at least an 80% just for showing up" philosophy.
Vermillion
Banned
No local multiplayer at all, according to Ubi. There's still online modes, though!
Looking at the scores it does feel that way, lol.
Ein Bear
Member
That's a real shame. I'm much more of a local multiplayer guy, never really been that into playing online.
If its AAA and from a western publisher, many sites are guaranteed to give it an 8 or 9.
Watch this game get a higher metacritic score than Pikmin 3.
Im....Im getting Hitman Absolution (review thread) flashbacks. The overall scores were a bit more inconsistent, but the same overall feeling of "Buy it". I hated it.
I've already bought a code off Ebay for $20 but still, I'm going into this unsure after the shitfest that was Hitman.
I've already bought a code off Ebay for $20 but still, I'm going into this unsure after the shitfest that was Hitman.
Bloodworth
Member
Betta Lines
Member
Yes.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Kinda surprised at so many good reviews, maybe the lack of hype lowered my expectations. "Improvise, replayability, different play styles"... these type of words get me hard. Sigh, too many fucking games I want.
TheRedSnifit
Member
A 6 from Edge is basically an 8/10. A 10 from Edge, by extension, is basically a 20/10.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
Good reviews. I always ignore Edge.
Neuromancer
Member
Interesting, thanks.
Edge gave Conviction an 8. Sometimes I agree with them, sometimes I don't. They're as fallible as any other review outlet.
TheRedSnifit
Member
Only because of the controls; once you figure out what you're doing, it's pretty actiony. I've run through Snake Eater guns blazing several times. Seriously, the shotgun is an insta-kill in most situations.
Why would anyone do this, let alone admit to it? Edge has some great reviews.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
This.
I think people forget a lot that this is the idle situation. A wide range of opinions to cover all viewpoints, which also helps diminish bandwagoning.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
That Edge review, it seems like the reviewer is criticizing the game more because of its modern trappings rather than the game quality itself.
I know reviews are opinions and they're entitled to their own opinions, and I respect that. However, I don't like it when games are reviewed that way. Criticism for modern gaming cliche, criticism for copying another popular series, character design choices (like Dragon's Crown), or other unnecessary criticism that otherwise overlooks the most important thing about a game: is it good and is it fun?
Tomb Raider for example, some reviews thrashed it for being like Uncharted or falling under modern gaming design. But that game is amazing and a masterpiece. Those reviews are so biased and misinforming and undermines one of the best games ever made this gen.
The other reviews for Blacklist seem pretty solid though.
I know reviews are opinions and they're entitled to their own opinions, and I respect that. However, I don't like it when games are reviewed that way. Criticism for modern gaming cliche, criticism for copying another popular series, character design choices (like Dragon's Crown), or other unnecessary criticism that otherwise overlooks the most important thing about a game: is it good and is it fun?
Tomb Raider for example, some reviews thrashed it for being like Uncharted or falling under modern gaming design. But that game is amazing and a masterpiece. Those reviews are so biased and misinforming and undermines one of the best games ever made this gen.
The other reviews for Blacklist seem pretty solid though.
I saw that IGN mentioned Wii U, but I would really want to see videos from Wii U.
so wait are you saying that games shouldn't be judged by their game design? or their graphics?
NullPointer
Member
No offense, but Tomb Raider is exactly the worry when it comes to fans of the series staples. The game is called Splinter Cell, so how it stacks up in the series and what Splinter Cell fans can expect seems more than reasonable to include in a review.
And I'm just gonna walk away from the "masterpiece" part...
LiquidSolid
Member
I don't think you understand what a masterpiece is.
TheRedSnifit
Member
You wouldn't give RE4 a 6/10 because it doesn't play like its predecessors, would you? It's the same deal here: you should judge Blacklist based on its merits (or lack thereof), not because it doesn't play exactly like CT.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
It's subjective, isn't it? Some people thrash RE4 or Ocarina of Time, but does it mean those games are bad or not masterpieces?
Like judging a painting: you may not like it, but I may think it's a masterpiece. Same with TR. Doesn't mean I'm wrong and doesn't mean you're wrong.
In the overrated games' thread, Last of Us was listed a few times. Opinions can be all over the place.
NullPointer
Member
That's a matter of degree really. Removing points because a stealth game is filled with design decisions that work against that style of play seems fair. Removing points because a game about player choice seems to restrict those choices too often also seems fair to me.
I'm on the outside looking in though, so I'm just giving the benefit of the doubt here but the complaint seems reasonable. Enough to keep people from enjoying the game? Well that depends upon a player's expectations going in, so exploring those seems a good thing to me. Since I'm not going in expecting a completely tailor-made Ghost experience I don't expect those complaints to bother me quite as much as they will others.
But hah, ultimately we're talking "points" here, which are so damn subjective and useless. I can't really take too hard a stand here on something so ephemeral.
serenewarfare
Banned
People are being kind of ridiculous by inferring the Edge review is the only one that matters. Not saying Edge isn't credible, but they seem to have the outlying opinion. As for me, I never read reviews for score, but more for the info and use that to determine buy/pass. Obsession over score is something I never understood.
What the fuck? You expect us to actually read the content of these reviews? Who sounds stupid now?
Chance Hale
Member
Where are the reviews of the PC version? They've said they put a lot of work into it so I'd love to hear how that turned out.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Edge are the only mob I trust.
Good. Games are an artistic medium, not hardware appliances.
IGN talked about wii u ver......mmm
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I always feel that this is kind of a weird self-imposed construct though. Who says you have to finish a stealth game undetected? Deus Ex HR for instance really shone if you went undetected most of the time, got caught close to the exit and had to make a run for it. There's a reason spies in movies always get caught too. It creates conflict/climax at the height of buildup of tension.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
I see what you're saying. Personally, I think it is more thrilling to nearly be caught. Hiding in the high grass in MGS3 and having a patrol wander mere inches away, unaware of your presence, is much more tense than actually getting caught.
I guess getting through undetected is simply super bad ass. Do you think it would be as much of an issue if there wasn't a scoring system for it...?
Bloodworth
Member
I think the videos have played up the action because that's what video editors tend to do. Sure, there are a few action scenes that break up the pacing now and then, but I've been playing it pretty much pure stealth and loving it. Barely touched mark and execute and totally forgot I even had an assault rifle for a long while (and I'm never buying a shotgun in this game c'mon). Plenty of missions where being seen at all is insta-fail or destroys your bonus and brings in reinforcements.
Can i see the link?