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Splinter Cell Conviction |OT| The Rebourne Panther
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http://www.justin.tv/tiatika2#r=MAahkck~ Co-op story. Just started.
Net_Wrecker
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DrBo42 said:
Just from watching like 2 minutes of that, I just got super hyped like no other vid of this has done before. I absolutely LOVE co-op stealth situations.
Has DLC been confirmed for this? Despite the lack of a team based adversarial mode, I could see these Deniable Ops modes lasting for while with new maps being introduced through DLC packs.
Been playing SP this weekend, it's actually more 24 than 24: The Game. It's more action-oriented than previous Splinter Cells, which I kinda like, but it would've been cool if the game rewarded you for passing a level or a room without killing anyone.
Also: the game is sometimes rediculous. You can hear guards/other enemies say "maybe he's on the first floor." and they never go an check their. Or they say "he can be anywhere." but they check everywhere except the ceiling, where you're hiding. They only look up if you give them reason to do so.
Mark & Execute is an extremely powerful tool, which they balanced out by forcing you to take out an enemy from up close. This can lead to interesting situations, where your only chance of surviving a firefight is ME, but you'll need to take down an enemy first to be able to use ME. Very nicely done. My cats were not so thrilled about the ROWR-sound, though.
The last known location-marker is also a handy tool to know where your enemies are going to be. You can quickly adjust your position to gain an advantage or (as I have done on several occasions) drop a remote detonate mine, let them spot you in the vicinity of the mine, have them go to your location and make with the BOOM.
Also: the game is sometimes rediculous. You can hear guards/other enemies say "maybe he's on the first floor." and they never go an check their. Or they say "he can be anywhere." but they check everywhere except the ceiling, where you're hiding. They only look up if you give them reason to do so.
Mark & Execute is an extremely powerful tool, which they balanced out by forcing you to take out an enemy from up close. This can lead to interesting situations, where your only chance of surviving a firefight is ME, but you'll need to take down an enemy first to be able to use ME. Very nicely done. My cats were not so thrilled about the ROWR-sound, though.
The last known location-marker is also a handy tool to know where your enemies are going to be. You can quickly adjust your position to gain an advantage or (as I have done on several occasions) drop a remote detonate mine, let them spot you in the vicinity of the mine, have them go to your location and make with the BOOM.
This is my feeling as well. First, they found a way to bring Sam back just like find a way to bring back at the start of every season of 24.
Sam, alone or with the help of someone in his ear (Anna instead of Chloe), can do what the other Armed Forces or security group can't. Just like Jack Bauer.
The action sequences.
The last mission vs.
24 Season 7 in the same location
Story spoiler:
In 24 Season 7, Starkwood, a private military contractor, fears their funding will be cut the a Senator and eventually the President. It's pretty much the same plot in Conviction with Third Echelon/Black Arrow.
Not to mention the
interrogation/torture scenes
Opus Angelorum
Member
Caspel said:
That's...not encouraging. Any reasoning for this? Do the various levels not offer many variations of play-through?
KingOfSoap
Neo Member
MMaRsu said:If I could buy shit in dollars I would buy a lot more games. But too bad I live in Euroland where new games cost 60 euro's in the store, which is like the equivalent to 120 dollars or something
60 euro is 81 dollar. But you are still right, getting fucked here on game prices in Europa. Sucks.
MrCompletely
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Only play on realistic. the game is challenging, especially the latter half on realistic. I can see blowing through it on normal or rookie, but the AI is much more aware on realistic mode. They react better to player actions like shooting out lights and gadget use etc. I've got about 5 hours on realistic and im just over halfway. There ARE areas where you have to wait in the shadows to learn patrol routes and dash from cover to cover. It feels like splinter cell, but quicker and yes, more action oriented.
You will be pleasantly surprised how much content there is in deniable ops. There are 6 'maps' but they each consist of 2 or 3 nice sized zones. You move onto zone 2 when completing zone 1, etc.
Completing the PEC challenges will take skill and time learning the game.
Looking forward to coop story mode, curious if they use the deniable ops maps.
You will be pleasantly surprised how much content there is in deniable ops. There are 6 'maps' but they each consist of 2 or 3 nice sized zones. You move onto zone 2 when completing zone 1, etc.
Completing the PEC challenges will take skill and time learning the game.
Looking forward to coop story mode, curious if they use the deniable ops maps.
Jesse Jane
Banned
Najaf said:
reviews of the online multiplayer experience should never be made without having a week+ to experience the online.. I don't blame them for not focusing in on that aspect.
nilam01 said:
Embargo ends tomorrow.
IGN published their review because they made a deal with Ubisoft to get the rights for an exclusive review. Hilary Goldstein has a lot of "friends" in the industry, so he manages to get this deals very often.
The result of these IGN exclusive reviews, usually ends with a review >9.0 where a game can score higher than the score of any of the 5 sub-categories.
Jesse Jane said:
This is not necessary in this case. The Face-Off mode is one on one play with AI bots. It is much different when reviewing MAG where you need to get the experience of the maximum number of players.
And really, aside from MMOs, what reviews outlet do you know of that would hold off on a review for a week after its release to review the multiplayer component? It is not practical from a business standpoint; allowing all the competition to soak up the web traffic.
Primethius
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SketchTheArtist said:
Loxley said:
Ah shit, sorry guys. I guess I wasn't thinking properly when I quoted that.
MrCompletely
Member
cool, so looking at the round recap screen
AI Enemy = 1 point
Killing Opponent = 5 Points
Death = -3 points
I like this.
I wonder if the sonar googles pick up the opposing player and whether you can mark/execute on him.
AI Enemy = 1 point
Killing Opponent = 5 Points
Death = -3 points
I like this.
I wonder if the sonar googles pick up the opposing player and whether you can mark/execute on him.
B-Rad Lascelle
Banned
I wouldn't mind review embargos so much if they worked similar to how they do in the movie industry and only crappy titles were embargoed. It's easy to simply connect the dots and ignore those.NHale said:
It also doesn't help when the "exclusive" IGN review reads like a 7.5 or an 8 and then splashes a big 'ole 9.3 at the end. My Spidey sense is telling me this should review worse than Double Agent X360, but gaming journalism is so corrupt it's hard to know for certain. This may also be a case of the "single player" being crap, but the multiplayer being genius.
DrBo42 said:
Turning down the enemy density seems like it would make for a more subtle match. There appeared to be guards everywhere and thus took the focus off of keeping an eye out for the other spy. Also, I take it that the guards respawn?
The game mode (Face-Off) looks interesting. I wonder if there is an elimination mode where there are a fixed number of guards and maybe a life count (ex. 3) for each spy.
One question for those that have it: can you map aiming to the left trigger?
MrCompletely
Member
Najaf said:
I don't know if you can remap the buttons or select alternate controller layouts, but the left trigger is the cover button and it works really well as that. I don't think you would want a FPS style ads in this game. My only prob with the controls (and it's really subjective) is that I keep hitting x to reload out of habit and end up using a gadget inadvertently. Click left stick = reload.
Sounds awkward, but you rarely need to actively reload, so it's really not an issue (unless you're a compulsive reloader like me )
I don't know how to feel about Face-off after watching that. It seems to be a big run and gun arena with bots. While I know that you don't have to play it like that guy was, it seems obvious that using a lot of stealth will not rack up the score as fast as the full-auto, guns blazing approach.
While I am in no place to judge the design decisions at this point, it seems like it would have made more sense to reward stealth play. For instance, stealth kills (where the AI does not see you) are worth 2 points, and melee stealth kills are worth 3.
Speaking of melee, is there a knife in the campaign? I loved the knife of Pandora Tomorrow.
While I am in no place to judge the design decisions at this point, it seems like it would have made more sense to reward stealth play. For instance, stealth kills (where the AI does not see you) are worth 2 points, and melee stealth kills are worth 3.
Speaking of melee, is there a knife in the campaign? I loved the knife of Pandora Tomorrow.
ToyMachine228
Member
Just ran through the demo one final time to prepare for the game. Should have it by week's end from Amazon. "Looks like I got shotgun...":lol
CloakedPuppet
Member
Not surprised to see the usual whiners and cynics coming out of the woodwork now. :lol
Anyhow, anyone that finishes the game on anything under 8 hours on first playthrough is obviously just burning through it. Most folks will probably thoroughly enjoy the campaign and find themselves ending at around the 8-10 hour mark.
Anyhow, anyone that finishes the game on anything under 8 hours on first playthrough is obviously just burning through it. Most folks will probably thoroughly enjoy the campaign and find themselves ending at around the 8-10 hour mark.
BigKaboom2
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What's the actual objective for Face-Off? Is it ever advisable to work slowly or are you just trying to kill everyone as fast as possible?
Najaf said:
You are correct.
The game overall does not reward stealth play very heavily. The Last Stand game mode is also not conducive to stealthy play, as it's too slow to be effective in protecting the EMP you're guarding. Just keep in mind that this is Rainbow Six Vegas: Sneaky Style, not traditional Splinter Cell, and you'll be better prepared for what you find in the game.
Nope. Sam does find a lot of cool ways to crush people's throats with his guns' various parts, though.
Anybody got a confirmation on the price of the PC version?
Best Buy and Gamer's Gate have $50. GameStop and Amazon have $60 (but Amazon has its own lowered price).
Also, GameStop will give you OG Splinter Cell for free with the game. Gamer's Gate will let you choose between OG SC and Chaos Theory with a pre-order.
Best Buy and Gamer's Gate have $50. GameStop and Amazon have $60 (but Amazon has its own lowered price).
Also, GameStop will give you OG Splinter Cell for free with the game. Gamer's Gate will let you choose between OG SC and Chaos Theory with a pre-order.