CloakedPuppet
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skyfinch said:
Doesn't look like it.
By the way, just tried out deniable ops. Lots of fun!
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Splinter Cell Conviction |OT| The Rebourne Panther
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Doesn't look like it.
By the way, just tried out deniable ops. Lots of fun!
RapidCancel
Member
Does anyone know if there are still any deals going around for pre-order? Splinter doesn't seem to work anymore and the dell deal is dead.
Big-ass Ramp
hella bullets that's true
skyfinch said:
I'd also like to replace Sam with someone else. Could I also change the title screen? Can I also make this first person?
For those wanting reviews, Jeff Gerstmann mentioned in the latest Deadly Premonition endurance run(ep 4) that he was playing this game. So, it's in reviewer's hands.
EDIT:
JambiBum said:
Eh, beaten I guess.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
This game does get more interesting the more I know about it.
I usually never bought a Splinter Cell game at launch but I may check this out.
I usually never bought a Splinter Cell game at launch but I may check this out.
Milk Lizard
Banned
miladesn said:
Considering DoA paradise getting a 6/10 I'm not so sure about that
The Black and White is here to stay. Its just another Light and Shadow bar without it actually being a bar.
As for the Projections... I really don't notice them after a while. I am concentrating on stalking around, I only notice them for a split second if they tell me to do something. :lol
As for the Projections... I really don't notice them after a while. I am concentrating on stalking around, I only notice them for a split second if they tell me to do something. :lol
CloakedPuppet
Member
The black and white works great and I've found it really supports the gameplay. The projections are not intrusive and mostly come up at key moments.
I've got some time to play today and will keep posting impressions.
I've got some time to play today and will keep posting impressions.
CloakedPuppet
Member
One thing I didn't mention yet is that Sam's animations are quite fluid and, not to be a broken record, but I can again see the influence of 2 iterations of Assassin's Creed here. It would be interesting to find out how much cross pollination was happening with the development.
MrCompletely
Member
Amazon's not offering free release day delivery for Prime members on this one, and the SPLINTER code has expired. Looks like I'll be waiting till the inevitable $40 deal day to use my $20 Battlefield Promo credit.
CrazedArabMan
Member
MrCompletely said:
Good thing I got mine pre-ordered while I could.
miladesn said:
Nice, I like EDGE a lot and respect their reviews, and an 8 from them is really good. Considering they say a 5 from edge is like a 7 from other reviewers.
CloakedPuppet
Member
Alright - now that I've had some time to see a few more environments, I can honestly say that I don't think people are going to be "wowed" by the graphics. That said, I think the visuals are still very acceptable and, as mentioned, art direction and keen attention to level detail are exceptional. The lighting is especially nice here and, really, Conviction is not an ugly game. It's just that at this point in this generation and quite recently, we've seen some very impressive stuff. In this light, Ubisoft's latest may seem, at times, a little behind the curve.
That out of the way, I can safely say that this is easily one of the most enjoyable Splinter Cell games I've ever played. The increased pacing and attention to speed and slick cover techniques have completely won me over. I do love the old games and their methodical pace. It's just that the retooled mechanics here make for a more engaging experience by comparison (at least, for me). Don't get me wrong, though, this still has that old Splinter Cell feel through and through. It's just taken to a different level and one that I'm thoroughly enjoying.
...back to it!
That out of the way, I can safely say that this is easily one of the most enjoyable Splinter Cell games I've ever played. The increased pacing and attention to speed and slick cover techniques have completely won me over. I do love the old games and their methodical pace. It's just that the retooled mechanics here make for a more engaging experience by comparison (at least, for me). Don't get me wrong, though, this still has that old Splinter Cell feel through and through. It's just taken to a different level and one that I'm thoroughly enjoying.
...back to it!
ToyMachine228
Member
Just ordered this on Amazon. Had a $25 gift card, signed up for the Amazon credit card which gives you a $30 credit, and signed up for the free trial of Amazon Prime, so free 2-day shipping. So all in all I basically got Conviction shipped for $1. Pretty good deal.
CloakedPuppet
Member
Also...
I'm seriously itching to get this online once more people have it.
those who are GRAW fans should feel right at home at one point.
I'm seriously itching to get this online once more people have it.
Milk Lizard
Banned
Raide said:
But it's really fucking annoying when playing, easily the worst thing about the game. Well and the cheesy cutscenes of course but we expected that.
Once again...a game without an attract reel. Whatever happened to Microsoft requiring them? This sucks. I want it running in the store, but as it is, it's only the title and three swirling red glows.
Then again, due to a screw-up in ordering, I ended up with way too many. So now I've got to figure out what to do with them all. Fun...
Then again, due to a screw-up in ordering, I ended up with way too many. So now I've got to figure out what to do with them all. Fun...
CloakedPuppet
Member
Milk Lizard said:
Sorry, but I have to disagree. I haven't found it at all annoying and there are times where I've found myself preferring it over the old light indicator system.
I don't want to come off as an apologist or blind fan of this game. I'm not what you would call a cynical gamer either. I tend to enjoy games for their strengths and SC Conviction has a LOT of them. You can argue that the old mechanics were fine but I really felt like it was time to move on after Double Agent. In the end, individual preferences will prevail but I'm happy for the changes.
CloakedPuppet
Member
Lothars said:
That's a tough one given the changes. I'd also place Chaos Theory as the best in the series.
If pushed I'd say that it falls a bit short of CT but not as much as some may lead you to believe. It's up in the top 3 for me so far.
[edit - I think I may pop in Chaos Theory today to do a little contrasting and comparing. Also, I'm curious to see how well it holds up]
BigKaboom2
Member
I think it's better to look at this game as a spiritual successor to Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 since it seems to be mostly the same team and emphasizes a lot of the same concepts. I'm hoping the premises of the missions truly justify the use of force if they're not going to let me full stealth through it like I've done in every other SC game (except for the level in current-gen DA where you have to KO everyone on the tanker :lol ).Lothars said:
CloakedPuppet
Member
Well, I just gave Chaos Theory a go for shits and giggles. I haven't touched it in a few years but I'm really impressed with how good it still looks. Right off the bat and fresh from playing the new game, it took a little time to forget about the new cover mechanic. :lol
CT really pushed the original XBox and makes the graphics of the Conviction seem like a pretty minor step forward given the time that`s passed. From the very first game, this series was always reliable as a true looker and, given that, I can understand people's disappointment. The new game doesn't leave you with that same feeling you had when you first feasted your eyes on those pre-order or OXM Mag demos back in the day. It's hard not to be disappointed that Ubi seems to have dropped the emphasis on ground breaking visuals for Conviction. However, like I said, if you can get beyond that, you're in for a really good time.
Game-play wise, Chaos Theory really does feel like a step backward for me. The sluggish pace and robotic AI are pretty glaring nowadays. The game is still a lot of fun for sure but I really feel like the developers were at the peak of what they could do with the old mechanics when this game was released. It`s for that reason that I think folks felt Double Agent was filler and really shouldn`t be so quick to judge the new game.
The fun tactics of distraction / cover and cat & mouse are still there in Conviction but they now feel more immediate and (for lack of a better term) visceral in comparison.
Anyhow, I`m glad I went back to to what I still feel is an excellent game. If nothing, it proved to me that Ubisoft was really ahead of it`s time with that game. It also removed those rose colored glasses for at least a while. :lol Now back to this gen.
CT really pushed the original XBox and makes the graphics of the Conviction seem like a pretty minor step forward given the time that`s passed. From the very first game, this series was always reliable as a true looker and, given that, I can understand people's disappointment. The new game doesn't leave you with that same feeling you had when you first feasted your eyes on those pre-order or OXM Mag demos back in the day. It's hard not to be disappointed that Ubi seems to have dropped the emphasis on ground breaking visuals for Conviction. However, like I said, if you can get beyond that, you're in for a really good time.
Game-play wise, Chaos Theory really does feel like a step backward for me. The sluggish pace and robotic AI are pretty glaring nowadays. The game is still a lot of fun for sure but I really feel like the developers were at the peak of what they could do with the old mechanics when this game was released. It`s for that reason that I think folks felt Double Agent was filler and really shouldn`t be so quick to judge the new game.
The fun tactics of distraction / cover and cat & mouse are still there in Conviction but they now feel more immediate and (for lack of a better term) visceral in comparison.
Anyhow, I`m glad I went back to to what I still feel is an excellent game. If nothing, it proved to me that Ubisoft was really ahead of it`s time with that game. It also removed those rose colored glasses for at least a while. :lol Now back to this gen.
macfoshizzle
Member
burgerdog said:
sorry gave it to my friend. i'm still trying to finish dragonage. i can wait for next week to get another copy. looking forward to playing coop most then anything else
Milk Lizard
Banned
Well the game leaked so watch out for story spoiling comments on youtube and sites like that.
CloakedPuppet
Member
JambiBum said:
Mom and pop shop. I actually debated grabbing it since I have a copy of the LE on order through Amazon. I caved though - couldn't resist. I'll trade this copy in once my LE arrives. I just have to look at it as an expensive rental.:lol It was worth it for me in order to play the game at least a week early since Amazon will take at least a couple of days to ship.
Just finished with another level and am pretty struck by the different kinds of scenarios - definitely more than dark corridors in this game.
MrCompletely
Member
strange, is wasn't giving me the option earlier when I was trying to check out.burgerdog said:
I've had that problem in the past with Amazon though, maybe just a fluke ?
Big Takeover
Member
They must have just changed it. It wasn't offered when I ordered it yesterday. You can change your order, but I'm sure you already knew that.MrCompletely said:
macfoshizzle
Member
i just know people at ubi.
VeryGooster
Banned
dream said:
Conviction might end up being fantastic, but I still have to agree with this.
MrCompletely
Member
Not to belabor, but just for the benefit of informing, you have to cancel an order and reorder to change to the prime release day shipping option. once an order is placed, you can only switch to the standard shipping options.BCD2 said:
CloakedPuppet
Member
Wow.
Things are really hitting there stride here. Just now started messing with the gadgets and am having a ball. I was ready to defend where I thought things were going with this but I think Chaos Theory and old SC fans will actually be quite pleased. Things are now feeling like familiar territory with a a new coat of paint - if that makes sense. :lol
Also, the new gui or hud is really nice and well thought out.
I really don't want to spoil anything.
Things are really hitting there stride here. Just now started messing with the gadgets and am having a ball. I was ready to defend where I thought things were going with this but I think Chaos Theory and old SC fans will actually be quite pleased. Things are now feeling like familiar territory with a a new coat of paint - if that makes sense. :lol
Also, the new gui or hud is really nice and well thought out.
I really don't want to spoil anything.
CloakedPuppet
Member
Lunchbox said:
That review has a lot of douchey spoilers in my opinion. People should avoid the video review.
Also, I think Goldstein is pulling that 5 hour thing out of his ass.
CloakedPuppet
Member
Lunchbox said:
Yeah - there was someone else in this thread that mentioned he'd put at least 10 hours in. I don't know if I've reached the 5 hour mark but I know that I'm no where near the end.