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[SPOILERS] Major character death in Marvel Comics' "Civil War II" revealed

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Fury451

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Oh noes. A character won't be in comics for few weeks/months. It's hillarious how inconsequential this shit has become.

Nah, it takes longer now. There's a few Marvel characters that have been dead and stayed that way for awhile. Wolverine, for one, has been dead for nearly 2 years now.

That said, on to the topic: this event sucks.
 

mreddie

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It's actually possible Banner will stay dead for a reasonable amount of time.

No writer has really been able to do anything with him since Pak and they have Cho as a replacement that they want to push.

Duggan gave him a good series to send off with, I think the COMICS thread summed it up as once they gave him armor and a gun, it was over.
 
I HAVEN'T READ SHIT IN THIS THREAD BUT WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU TITLE THIS SHIT WITH A SPOILER IN ITSELF? MAJOR CHARACTER DEATH????? WHY NOT JUST FUCKING SAY "SPOILER ABOUT CIVIL WAR II" AND LEAVE IT AT THAT?

EVERYONE HAS TO BE THE FUCKING CENTER OF ATTENTION... BE THE FIRST TO SPREAD THE WORD.... SO MUCH SO THAT YOU WOULD STILL SPOIL SOMETHING JUST TO GET MORE TO GET ATTENTION FOR THE THREAD? smh.

You wanna try that again - without being a jerk?
 

Averon

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*Yawn*

These event books almost always have a SHOCKING death to drum up sales, but in this case, it completely falls flat. Not like Banner have been much of a player for a past year or so, so him dying doesn't really feel significant. And that's not even getting into the fact this will be reversed in two years, tops.
 
That’s because the archer skewers his pal on the belief that Banner is about to turn into the Hulk and unleash massive death and destruction. Banner had recently given him the special arrow and asked for a mercy killing in case of disaster.

Hasn't he been able to control his Hulk form for years? Or has that been retconned, changed, etc??
 
Is he going to stay dead though?

Max is the time Thor stayed dead, so 5 years tops.

I'm willing to bet this is what causes Ulysses vision about the Hulk's rampage to come true.

Most likely.

I HAVEN'T READ SHIT IN THIS THREAD BUT WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU TITLE THIS SHIT WITH A SPOILER IN ITSELF? MAJOR CHARACTER DEATH????? WHY NOT JUST FUCKING SAY "SPOILER ABOUT CIVIL WAR II" AND LEAVE IT AT THAT?

EVERYONE HAS TO BE THE FUCKING CENTER OF ATTENTION... BE THE FIRST TO SPREAD THE WORD.... SO MUCH SO THAT YOU WOULD STILL SPOIL SOMETHING JUST TO GET MORE TO GET ATTENTION FOR THE THREAD? smh.

Calm down.
 
The fact that all if this is 'in character' just reminds me how fucking contrived this entire thing is.

Marvel is approaching some DC-level fuckery here.

yeah because Marvel is so full of original ideas right?

Some wires are definitely being crossed here. In "Totally Awesome Hulk" Banner was cured when Cho absorbed his powers.

it's Bendis, he does what he wants and for some reason they let him get away with it.
 

Ross61

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I'm pretty sure Marvel instructed Bendis to do this. I don't think a single writer would control all the major decisions for a publisher. And besides, we got Cho now.
 

dabig2

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Hasn't he been able to control his Hulk form for years? Or has that been retconned, changed, etc??

It changes based on whatever story the writer wants. But for the most part, yes, he's been more in control for the past 30 years (or the Hulk has been shown to be more intelligent irrespective of Banner). Even the Savage Hulk wasn't really this genocidal monster who just mass murders heroes like Bendis is alluding to here; not without cause at least (like Banner committing psychic suicide back in the 80s which led to the Hulk going nuts and thrashing 2 Avengers teams).
 
I'm pretty sure Marvel instructed Bendis to do this. I don't think a single writer would control all the major decisions for a publisher. And besides, we got Cho now.

Cho has already been the Hulk for months now. Even if he wasn't Marvel has multiple version of Thor, Captain America, Iron Man, and Spider Man running around. 'Getting' Cho does nothing to justify killing Banner.
 

Ross61

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Cho has already been the Hulk for months now. Even if he wasn't Marvel has multiple version of Thor, Captain America, Iron Man, and Spider Man running around. 'Getting' Cho does nothing to justify killing Banner.

Does killing Banner need any justification? He's become quite stale and uninteresting.
 

Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
Does killing Banner need any justification? He's become quite stale and uninteresting.

then put a good team on him? carol danvers keeps slumming, yet they keep giving her series.

Agreed and its quite surprising especially after how good Secret Wars was.

That was Hickman though

the lead in to secret wars was amazing, which helped.
 

Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
I'm so sick of these superhero death stunts. When will they ever learn!?

theyve actually been pretty good with the dead staying dead for a period of time, and a reason as to why some manage to come back.

then again. they have a bunch of characters that arent dead but just gone, probably never to be seen again

I remember when Spider-Man died and gave birth to himself or some nonsense.

Hulk will smash again.

spidey needs that power boost now. too many spiders have skill sets that outclass him.
 

ElRenoRaven

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I'm with the whole let's just get rid of Bendis group. Never understood the hate he got till he was pretty much given free reign to fuck the Marvel Universe up after Secret Wars.
 

Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
Hawkeye getting some payback for Dissembled


Lets kick the ballistic, Miguel is the only one that really comes close to the total Parker Package

miles has a ohko move. cindy is faster, with more durable webbing, kaine is stronger, although lacking the sense. spider man is just the imprint theyve all improved on in one way or another
 

Slayven

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miles has a ohko move. cindy is faster, with more durable webbing, kaine is stronger, although lacking the sense. spider man is just the imprint theyve all improved on in one way or another

But none of them know how to bring it together with super smarts, Miguel is the closes in that area. Plus he can bite people
 
But none of them know how to bring it together with super smarts, Miguel is the closes in that area. Plus he can bite people

Given some time to actually become an adult, Miles will completely outclass him.

I mean, he won't because Marvel, but yeah.
 

Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
But none of them know how to bring it together with super smarts, Miguel is the closes in that area. Plus he can bite people

they'll bring back a spock clone body for that very reason

Given some time to actually become an adult, Miles will completely outclass him.

I mean, he won't because Marvel, but yeah.

if hes ever allowed to grow out of ult petes shadow, even after nonexistance, maybe. but even then i dont think he has the arms to box with god.
 

dabig2

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Does no one know about Cho-as-Hulk yet?

Everyone knows that he's the Hulk now. He's been the only active one (other than She-Hulk) since ANAD first started. I think canonically he's been the Hulk for about 4 months in-universe time. And he's already had several teamups with a lot of the heroes standing on that lawn. And he was at that party in the 1st issue where people should have definitely known that it was him and not Banner.
 

The Kree

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Miles' venom blast is already broken. When he's Peter's age he's gonna have to actively try to not kill people with it.
 

Raxus

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Scott Lang died in Dissembled and jsut recently came back, that has to be a record

You know, die, take a break, take in the sights, grab a sandwich and be back just in time for another event comic.

Something something skrulls whatever.

Are the fantastic 4 still blow'd up?
 
Everyone knows that he's the Hulk now. He's been the only active one (other than She-Hulk) since ANAD first started. I think canonically he's been the Hulk for about 4 months in-universe time. And he's already had several teamups with a lot of the heroes standing on that lawn. And he was at that party in the 1st issue where people should have definitely known that it was him and not Banner.

BENDIS.
 
I could see Miles getting completely out the game around 30ish and settling down with Bombshell
They can't Patriot my boy.

Are we not counting how long Jean stayed dead after New X-Men?

Nah, Jean is Gwen Stacy tier at this point.

Miles' venom blast is already broken. When he's Peter's age he's gonna have to actively try to not kill people with it.

ding ding ding. People forget he can also stealth but can only somewhat control it. Adult Miles trained by Peter Parker? Jesus wept.

I been saying that.

You speak the truth. One great storyline and people will be calling for Scott Lang like they do for Richard Rider.
 
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