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[SPOILERS] Major character death in Marvel Comics' "Civil War II" revealed
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fallengorn
Bitches love smiley faces
I'll allow it if Clint's words as he shoots the arrow were, "No more Banners."
I'm just going to leave this here: http://imgur.com/gallery/dcg1K
Curious that "Marvel: Now What?" only consists of a single issue - then again, its parody of their publicity stunts doesn't need to have a whole lot added to it.
Curious that "Marvel: Now What?" only consists of a single issue - then again, its parody of their publicity stunts doesn't need to have a whole lot added to it.
Just read the issue and - yep, Banner's death is as ignoble as it sounded. At least Rhodey died saving the world or whatever and gets to have several issues of comics praising him and mourning him. He answered the call and went up against a clear evil madman. Banner dies like a maniac: confused, bewildered, and defenseless. Put down like a dog by a fellow hero at that. Shit man, as a Hulk fan, it really sucks.
Brianimaniac
Banned
Your reading comprehension is very low.
Miles has the better powers. But Marvel will keep him stagnant
You can 1 sentence insult me or you can explain your opinion - whatever it may be.
Patorit should comeback as the New Night Thrasher, leading a group of kids, talking about the old guard neglects the upcoming kids. Along with a Ricki Jones a young woman that happens upon a pear of Negabands
He also wanted to kick her out of the Avengers
In comics do people actually care. I consider my self a pretty spoiler sensitive person who avoids spoilers for stuff I don't even watch/play/read, with the idea that I might someday partake in that movie/game/book. But stuff in comics doesn't really seem to matter because they either bring them back fairly quickly or split off into a multiuniverse type story that starts fresh anyways.
PaulExcellent
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UGH, CIVIL WAR 2 IS SO FUCKING STUPID.
Changes for the sake of changes.
This is reaching AXIS levels of dumb.
Changes for the sake of changes.
This is reaching AXIS levels of dumb.
GekigangerV
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Speaking of Onslaught, are all the heroes killed brought back from "Heroes Reborn" still those Franklin Richards pocket universe versions?
So when Steve Rogers was "killed" which led to Bucky Cap it wasn't the original Captain American anyways?
Or does Marvel kind of ignore that and we pretend the characters in the 616 now are still the original versions?
Manmademan
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Not prevented. Old Steve Rogers was "cured" of his old age by a cosmic entity disguised as an 8 year old girl. He's young again.
I would think that just having "hulk blood" would be enough to hold off old age.. but that's obviously not canon.
nope. even Hulk ages eventually. The Maestro is an older version of hulk. Bald Head, big grey beard, the works. It might be slow, but he ages.
It was 100% "we need a shocking death for this event" and not much else. The whole thing doesn't really hold up under review. We're at the point where the visions themselves are becoming self fulfilling prophecies, and people end up causing the disasters they're looking to prevent by trying to stop visions. This also (kinda/sorta) happens in the spider man civil war spinoff book.
Tony is 100000% right at this point and Captain Marvel is looking pretty bad here.
not sure what you're going on about, but everyone except for a dozen people are recreations popped into existence by Reed and the molecule man. "616 marvel" died in the incursions. What you're reading now is just a clever simulacrum.
People were saying the opposite up until this week lol.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
It's kind of eerie how a completely separate Marvel Comic like Vision is running with such a close premise.
Typeface.
Face it Tiger..
Banned
Planet She-hulk awaits!
Just wondering why it would have to be special.
Mainly because the Rhodey thing was dumb. He died fighting a crazed up-to-no-good Thanos. Bruce died on his lawn before he legitimately did anything. His crime was merely being justifiably angry at the lynch mob formed.
I can't stay mad at you
People were legitimately against Tony's side after reading the first two issues saying that there's no reason to support him, but now this issue has people switching.
Manmademan
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Bruce was going to hulk out, which was the point of the vision. Right before (and after) he got shot, he was rocking bright green dots in the center of his pupils. This was not the case in the pages prior.
yes, the vision caused the event in the first place by having every hero and their grandmother show up to bruce's secret lab and freak him the fuck out, but by then it was a foregone conclusion. Everyone was going to die.
Was it shitty? oh, yeah. They never should have been there. You can make an argument for "thanos was just there to kill everyone anyway, someone would have had to get in a fight sooner or later" but Bruce wasn't bothering anybody. The visions were the direct cause of the event.
All I saw was the same glare that every character had going on in this issue.
This I agree on.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Maybe they should have asked the TWO Spider-Men on the lawn if they felt a tingle.
Valkerionseven
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soo.... he will be back by September?
Comics never roll with these deaths or changing of the guard for long time main characters.
This one could stick for a bit though. Chulk has been the Hulk ever since ANAD started, and Bruce was in limbo. He likely would've just stayed in limbo for an indefinite amount of time if he hadn't been fridged for this big event.
excelsiorlef
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When did fridging become a generic term for character death for plot purposes rather than its much more meaningful usage?
Jean has been dead for like 10 years now.
Sure they found the young Jean loophole but ill still give them this one, just like I give them the Old Man Logan loophole.
All language slowly degrades in specificity over time, I'm afraid.
But yeah, a male character can't really be fridged. That's not a thing.
For a looooooong time now.
Manmademan
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read it again.
That's pretty cut and dry. Bruce has neon green eyes immediately before and after being shot and nowhere else.
This is a good point, but a better one would be "if the vision has them all being killed on bruce's lawn- how about you don't bring them all onto bruce's lawn?" There is absolutely no reason for anyone who can't handle a few shots from the Hulk to be anywhere in the same area code.
I don't know man, I still don't see it. His eye color is the same as it was when he first stepped outside and said "I don't understand". I'm still only seeing glare in the pupil. His iris is the same color, and there's no way Hawkeye could possibly make that call from so far away.
That and "How's the wife and kid". Man, DC was on some 'I don't give a shit' last decade.
Manmademan
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you think glowing green eyes is normal for banner? It absolutely isn't, and hawkeye correctly called it from wherever the hell he was.
"his eyes flickered green and I took the shot".
Panel clearly shows banner with green eyes.
kunonabi
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Pretty much sums up Marvel for the last few years.
Todd Mcfarlane
Marvel employees aren't even claiming Jen is dead.
People made similar comments about Young Wolverine and we are 2 years post his death and nothing hints at him returning.
It might stay awhile.
Manmademan
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Before:
After:
It's nowhere near as cut and dry as you're trying to make it.
read what i wrote again.
both panels are when banner was clearly agitated and about to turn. (though he's obviously dying in the second shot and no longer a threat). In fact in the first scan you post Hawkeye had already fired- banner is cut off mid sentence as an arrow hits him and kills him.
PRIOR to those, banners eyes were standard brown with black pupils. They don't normally have glowing green centers- that indicates the presence of Gamma Energy which banner should absolutely not be displaying unless he's about to turn into the hulk.
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