If i remember correctly, that talk came shortly after the end of the TV series just to get fans riled up for more. I think it was supposed to be a new series altogether.
Spring 2014 Anime |OT2| about as likely as a second season of Hyouka
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firehawk12
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Honestly, I don't even pay attention to the drama. Remember when the school was closing down and Honoka passed out for reasons? No? Because who cares! lol
hipsterpants
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Well other than that they do a pretty good job at dividing kids and adult films. Though there is a Mai-Otome DVD under the kids section that judging from the back has the episode with tentacle fun time at the pool. Meanwhile Bleach and parts of Samurai Jack are "adult" lol
I'm sure there's more good stuff in Idol crap than I give it credit for (I remain unconvinced for now) but at least with Vocaloid stuff I can at least be guaranteed that the vocals are in tune!
AnathemicOne
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Same here for me. The one episode where they were arguing over "not being kawaii enough" was especially stupid it made me cringe. I think, essentially, the main problem is the school setting, its been done in anime ad infinitum and having an idol show known for being "fun" just overexposes the school crap. After being let down by the hype 'Snow Halation' got, I'm really just continuing due to the show ending soon.
People say this alot, and with good reason too. But it feels disingenuous to me to be able to take a serious opinion on the show yet not account for the show entirely.
debbie downers the lot of you
The decision to discount a good lot of the show is in itself a serious opinion to take, right? I mean I couldn't in good conscience recommend love live to anybody just as-is but I happen to enjoy it in the same way I enjoy castle; it's comfort food television
The decision to discount a good lot of the show is in itself a serious opinion to take, right? I mean I couldn't in good conscience recommend love live to anybody just as-is but I happen to enjoy it in the same way I enjoy castle; it's comfort food television
AnathemicOne
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe4VvQJ0Gjo
There you go, don't have to watch the video if you don't want to just listen.
Well, the fact that you can take your pick of which part of the plot I was referring to says it all, LOL.
Idolmaster has the whole passion-project-of-a-talented-director/artist/animator thing going for it, whereas LL just kinda looks gross - garish colors, bad fonts, ugly CG dances, etc. Enough people whose opinions I respect have said good things about it that I don't doubt it being a good show, but visually it just turns me off.
Whatever they do, tv series or film, I hope they follow it up with something.
While I enjoyed the series as well as Rebellion, neither had satisfactory endings.
The tv series ending was too convenient/dues ex-ish while Rebellion's ending felt like it was meant to be expanded upon/undone/challenged with a part 2.
phoenix296
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There are some shows where the drama is so bad I have to stop watching but with Love Live I feel there is enough good to help tune out the bad. It's probably one of the anime I'm enjoying the most this season. If it cut out the unnecessary drama and made it more about developing as an idol group (ep 2 & 8 are my favorite) I think I would like the show even more.
firehawk12
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I think if you're into the "all girls hanging out" type shows, then Love Live isn't a bad one to watch really.
That's true. Love Live is certainly much obviously a product.
All this money that should have been spent on third season of Lost Canvas.
Durarara !! 03-04
Huh didn't expect the black rider mystery to be resolved so soon. Celtic fairies ftw. This Shinra guy and Shizu-chan sure have some issues.
AnathemicOne
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Having a bit of cognitive dissonance here. If you're able to tune out the drama in Love Live! Then getting passed a couple of episodes of iM@S should be no problem. I do wonder why iM@S gets hate on its documentary-styled first episode though, I found it refreshing as it provided an easy transition into the idols of a small company shtick the show focuses on.
It's a decent enough song but just not particularly memorable, I guess.
When I think about it I feel like there's always an associative element with music that can't really be removed when determining your enjoyment. Kind of like how your favorite anime's OP is memorable and enjoyable because the style, chord progressions, etc invoke similar feelings to watching the show, or how you'll listen to the OST of your favorite game because it invokes memories of actually playing the game, or how people love Justin Bieber songs because Justin Bieber is just soooo cute and oh god that's literally the same thing isn't it.
I'll be honest though, it's frighteningly difficult even assessing my own taste in certain music to determine whether the song itself is good/bad or if it's "good/bad" because of where it's from. And then I stop to consider whether that even matters and that just complicates things further.
Why is music so hard?
you misunderstand - i liked the first episode and then it stopped being that and I didn't know/care enough to keep watching.
I can ignore the drama in LL because I already pre-like the characters because I've spent time with them. But Idolmaster just throws you in the deep end
I thought the ending of the TV series was fine. Sure it had a very large convenience factor, but
at least it was complete and brought a close to the series. Whereas Rebellion had a cliffhanger ending thus is practically unfinished so anybody being satisfied with that is kidding themselves.
Terminators in thigh highs~~~~
AnathemicOne
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I can agree with this, iM@S for its majority is character-arc based. For me I was initially attracted to the artstyle and character designs and stuck through it and then learned about each character when there arc(s) came into fray, even for those characters I don't particularly care about. It isn't too exciting as a narrative but at the same time it doesn't feel contrived or like a psuedo-parody.
Welp
Same for me, that's why the vocaloíd songs I listen to are just trance songs. Where the artists barely have Miku sing. Most of the time vocaloids sound like their noses are stuffed.
LL is very by-the-numbers in the way it slowly builds up its cast but I think that has its advantages. No doubt the idolmaster girls are just as adorable and quirky or whatever but being thrown instantly into ep 2/3 was like being told to care about people I really had no grasp on. It's okay in ep 1 because a) it's an intro episode and b) the documentary format actively expects the viewer to not really be able to keep up, but once it switched out I was really bummed.
I also really liked the documentary format! I want more anime to do that. That and police procedurals :<
A real Skynet wouldn't even bother with the collateral damage and physical resources needed to militarily subjugate humanity, they'd simply assimilate us culturally right under our noses instead.
The iDOLM@STER 02
I like the opening. Gotta love actual animated scenes that aren't just from the show and non-cgi-dances.
I think Iori is annoying, after I looked up her Seyuu, I realized why. Goddamn, Kugumya, I can't you anymore, go away. Especially with characters like this. GO AWAY! ;___; *foam*
I didn't like the first part of the episode. Flatchest complexes and childlike characters with dumb ideas (I was SO close to setting the detective boys on fire and strangling Eurekas children), are not my thing. But the photoshooting was nice to underline the characters and to pull the annoyance of the four a bit (still annyoing).
Seeing, that every girl seems to get a dedicated Ending, reminds me of Akuma no Riddle and somehow I am just waiting for bloody escalation now.
I like the opening. Gotta love actual animated scenes that aren't just from the show and non-cgi-dances.
Oh shit, please no boys. Producer is ok, but don't give me a tiring lovestory. That things never work out in shows like that.
I think Iori is annoying, after I looked up her Seyuu, I realized why. Goddamn, Kugumya, I can't you anymore, go away. Especially with characters like this. GO AWAY! ;___; *foam*
I didn't like the first part of the episode. Flatchest complexes and childlike characters with dumb ideas (I was SO close to setting the detective boys on fire and strangling Eurekas children), are not my thing. But the photoshooting was nice to underline the characters and to pull the annoyance of the four a bit (still annyoing).
Seeing, that every girl seems to get a dedicated Ending, reminds me of Akuma no Riddle and somehow I am just waiting for bloody escalation now.
Like 2-3 minutes short.
AnathemicOne
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The typical narrative style you listed is fine and works well in multiple shows. However, Love Live! also carries the typical high school setting and the typical character archetype which I feel ultimately brings about the show's generic nature, and the show seems to realize this and starts to counter it with its "drama" which turns out to be contrived and not pleasant.
I suppose you really have to have some sort attachment to the Honoka (the main driving character through the beginning and majority of the show) to stick with it (not hatewatching-wise) else I still fail to see how Love Live! fares better in introduction than iM@S does.
Puchimas!(!) consists of 2-3 minute episodes each. And its very comedic but ultimately a fan-service show and one won't be able to enjoy its full potential without any background to the original iM@S series (or the games for that matter).
There is no romance arcs in the iM@S anime.
I don't think LL really carries off its intro noticeably better than idolmaster, but I did keep watching it, so idk. tbh I think it was Umi and Kotori I was more of a fan of. Eli is a nice immediate counterpoint with nozomi to moderate. After that it slowly introduces the rest of the cast.
Shameful.
You mean bro-ducer. Considering they had to make a character out of what is literally a self insert from the games I thought they did a good job making him his own character. Never saw him as a self insert to be honest. Though P-san from Puchimas is an even better depiction.
striferser
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This is great!
I honestly didn't like the 1st episode. I like the later episode though, Chihaya arc is the best arc.
Thank god! I am so relieved.
J.C. Staff managed to give me an PTSD for her voice on characters who delude themselves. I have to hold myself in my seat to not run out of my house and seek kittens to punch.
i don't like documentary style in general. I hate it when US shows do that.
firehawk12
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He's slightly more developed than the faceless owner guy though. The "attraction" is the girls.
AnathemicOne
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firehawk12
Subete no aware
Isn't The Office really the only show that actually tried to write in the mockumentary thing into the fiction of the show? Aka, dudes making the most boring documentary in the history of documentaries. lol
The difference between British and American quality.
I'll go look for Zach at some bridges.
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