hey, duckroll did that with the necrophiliac show.
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hey, duckroll did that with the necrophiliac show.
Jex
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Well, you put your post in it, right? So it's a post box?
You'll have to play his game if you want to see that Bones animation though.
Umakoshi is a designer and an animator. He is known for distinctive poses and a great sense of melee combat choreography. He is not just the designer here but also the animation director. Saint Seiya is a shounen fighting franchise where things like designs, poses, and action are very important factors. Why wouldn't fans have the expectation that Umakoshi's contribution would influence all aspects of the show? Of course it would, and it has.
Why would I? The animation is already on Youtube in HD.
That's what youtube is for, though!
Jex
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Well, the real 'talent' that they could have nurtured died or left (e.g. Hosoda).
If you say it often enough it might become true. Well, maybe only in Korea.
You English and your wacky logic!
dakkumauji
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Ookami-san to Shichinin no Nakama-tachi 06
Flashback episode! We go back in time to talk about the characters. It is as exciting as it sounds.
Stalking at its max.
Flashback episode! We go back in time to talk about the characters. It is as exciting as it sounds.
All of it? Or was the animation just the bit that we saw when it was announced?
Jex
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The tradition of abusing staff will continue even in their absence.
Oh wait, that's a tradition in pretty much every animation studio.
This makes it sound like you think The Idolm@ster was bad.
Wait, Brazil is actually from Brazil?!
This makes it sound like you think The Idolm@ster was bad.
Wait, Brazil is actually from Brazil?!
He is Brazil. The personification of millions. The avatar of the next world cup.
Jex
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Aww shit son.
Ultimadrago
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Dedication Through Light
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This makes it sound like you think The Idolm@ster was bad.
Wait, Brazil is actually from Brazil?!
isnt he, i thought his screen cap pics shows he uses windows in brazil language?
This makes it sound like you think The Idolm@ster was bad.
It certainly didn't live up to the 7th/Lafiel/pizzaroll hype in any area besides animation.
No, it lived up in every area.
The real reason why Kyoani is an awesome studio!
Many people understandably don't like Idolm@ster. It is a very uneven show from episode to episode.This makes it sound like you think The Idolm@ster was bad.
I.. I never knew.
That could just as easily be Portuguese, though.
>_>
There's no point in arguing this with someone who doesn't believe in writing.
Crash Station
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Influenced by completely missing the point on stuff like the exclusion of pandora boxes and turning the cloths into leotards.
Why is it either or? I don't get why this argument is brought up, because it is a faulty argument. The claim here is that there are supposedly some people who put more importance into staff rather than content, and are only interested in shows because certain people are working on them even though they don't care for the actual subject matter. But these people simply do not exist. It is a straw man argument.
There are no such people who actually go "WOW JAKAMORI SHOOTO IS DIRECTING A TALKING ICE CREAM SHOW! FUCK YEAH! I HATE ICE CREAM AND I HATE TALKING FOOD PRODUCTS, BUT GODDAMN THIS WILL BE THE BEST THING EVER FUCK YEAH!!!!!" in AnimeGAF. Trying to create the impression that there are would be deceptive. Instead what the majority of people do is simply to look forward to shows which interest them. There can be multiple reasons why someone is interested in an upcoming show.
Staff would be a factor for people who value individual creativity and want to see what someone who has done something they like do next, subject matter is always extremely important because no one wants to watch something they're not interested in to begin with. There are also factors like being attracted by the artwork, or being impressed by a trailer. Lots of reasons and they're all valid. Entertainment is about what interests you. There are no "rules" about why you should like something more or less.
The best case scenarios are always when good staff who have shown that they are very experienced at producing a certain type of content tackle that subject matter again, and for someone who is a fan of both of staff members and that subject matter, it would be very, very exciting.
I'm not sure why you would try to spin it any other way.
I enjoyed it all the way through.
Even the melodrama at the end!
Hibiki got fucking cheated on her episode, though.
You'd have to be extremely naive to think Toei was copying the old SS, not renewing it.
How did they "miss the point", exactly? Who's to say they won't do something different, that could turn out better than the items from the old series did?
I think those influences are more likely the director or producer's calls. They are after all, also Precure dudes.
This makes it sound like you think The Idolm@ster was bad.
Wait, Brazil is actually from Brazil?!
Come on now.
He definitely plays a great part in the production of the show, obviously, but I still wouldn't say his experience affects all the aspects of the show. He has no influence over the plot or the pacing, for example, and those are just as important as the coreography of the fighting scenes.
Of course, even with that in mind, it's still understandable that Umakoshi's involvement would get people hyped for the series. But darkside's original point was that some "people in here were acting like Saint Seiya Omega couldn't be anything but amazing," and I do agree with him. Sometimes the staff hype gets out of hand. In this case, even if the director was someone incredible and not Morio, there was no guarantee that the show would actually be good.
People are free to be hyped for whatever reasons they feel like, sure. I like to keep my expectations in check, though.
The more you know.
Crash Station
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The hype surrounding Hosoda's new work and the positive reception of something like Sankarea among posters that had previously displayed disgust at the concept tell me otherwise.
Besides, there are people here who have flat out said subject matter isn't important. PIzzaroll, Lafiel, probably a few others I'm forgetting.
hosannainexcelsis
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I wanted to like Idolmaster, but the drama was dull and the chemistry between the character near non-existent. K-ON did a much better job at the whole girls being girls thing.
Come on now.
Assuming someone's name is actually relevant is like assuming everyone looks like their avatar does.
Who are these people? More straw men?
Ultimadrago
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Assuming someone's name is actually relevant is like assuming everyone looks like their avatar does.
You will always be a smug Medaka to me.
I disagree. I mean, it's not excellent/good as K-ON in that department, but I feel it was done pretty well and is by no means bad.
Theonik
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So they don't? I always assumed they were? Are you trying to tell us you're not really an envelope?Assuming someone's name is actually relevant is like assuming everyone looks like their avatar does.
I enjoyed it all the way through.
Even the melodrama at the end!
Hibiki got fucking cheated on her episode, though.
I was going to say, as much as I love iM@S, that episode is pretty much indefensible. I keep meaning to go back an check to see if they've done any animation corrections for the BD version of that episode, but it's not like fixing some off-model artwork would even put a dent in that episodes problems.
KO Traveling Hobo
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I need this in my life.
Crash Station
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There is no "better" here because anything significant they could do would go in a completely different direction than the original series. The loss of the pandora boxes undermines a lot of themes in the franchise, so if they go in the same direction, it would feel comparatively cheap, and if they go in a different direction, well it'll be a different direction.
Even as someone who liked the show I find it hard to believe people really liked all of it. Unless they skipped episodes or something. Episode three exists!I enjoyed it all the way through.
Even the melodrama at the end!
Hibiki got fucking cheated on her episode, though.
They are extremely different shows to me. K-on is about the characters and im@s is more focused on the subject matter of being an idol and how that effects the characters.
hosannainexcelsis
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I would assume that most people interested in Hosoda's new movie are interested in seeing him tackle an intimate family drama, given that he has shown himself in the past to be very good at portraying human relationships in a meaningful and emotionally involving manner.
And as far as Sankarea goes, certainly there wasn't any staff hype attached to that project. Who had heard of Shinichi Omata/Mamoru Hatakeyama before now? I only became interested in the show after hearing about the quality of its first episode from a trusted person and seeing surprisingly attractive art, and tuned in to find that the concept was executed in a strong manner that I could get behind, at least for the first three episodes.
I can't care about how being an idol impacts the characters unless I care about the characters.
I didn't say I liked every episode, but I did enjoy the series all the way through, the poorer episodes generally were bookended by stronger ones, so that certainly helped.
Cosmic, that's a bit of an unfair argument to say 2 shows can't be compared because they aren't exactly the same.
But...the character designs are so good...
Crash Station
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I never said they can't be compared. I'm just saying a different direction is a different direction. No better or worse.
You didn't watch the Namassuka episode?
You should go back and watch the Namassuka episode.
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