Oh, this reminds me... on Fate/Zero, how did you like that certain over-the-top scene on the last episode? After the stress built-up throughout all of it, that was like a liberation! But seeing it without the context it seriously gives me a different, strange impression.
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Hellsing321
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Seriously. The last time Nakamura did a battle Shounen we got [C]. No one wants that again. Well except for Cosmic.
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
What was Jarmel banned for? I didn't see any naughty bits in the two gifs he posted. Just some stock-standard groping.
Dedication Through Light
Member
I would only agree if this anime was pegged for more than 26 episodes or more, but it is doing pretty welll for what it set out to accomplish. focusing only on fishing would dilute the key character development of the characters.
This is what Google has done to us.
Theonik
Member
I think we can do better than this, put in a flashback of the aggressor remembering the first time he was slapped and trying to channel that energy in this critical hit and the internal monologue of a bystander considering whether he should stop this madness. "Baka! He could get fired for this!"
Ultimadrago
Member
Sankarea 5
Well...Rea likes
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And as they say "Actions speak louder than words."
Overall, left a bland taste in my mouth.
Mero's cooland can keep her clothes on!
Well...Rea likes
hydrangea leaves
And as they say "Actions speak louder than words."
Overall, left a bland taste in my mouth.
Lupin 5
That was a whole lot of fun. A lot of the stuff around the middle wasn't particularly coherent, but I liked the dynamics between Lupin and Jigen. They'll make a great team someday.
I feel like they're holding back too much with Fujiko when it comes to character development. Most of the time right now, she's just a terrible person. She'd be easier to root for if we knew a little more of her story. Hopefully the next episode can deliver there.
Apollon 4
How does this show move so fast? It's doing a good job at maintaining a breakneck pace without looking tired, but I can see where people who would like it to slow down a bit are coming from. It'd be nice to see more of the space in these relationships between the transition points, but it seems like they're biting off a ton of material for a pretty short run.
I'm interested to see how Jun will fit in this complex love polygon. He sang very well in English.
I'm consistently impressed with the high level of visual storytelling in this show. The characters' faces are so expressive without seeming exaggerated. It's not an easy feat to accomplish.
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Why is this season so damn good?
I've finally convinced my friend to catch up in Utena, so I should be able to move forward again soon, yuri goggles firmly affixed to my face.
That was a whole lot of fun. A lot of the stuff around the middle wasn't particularly coherent, but I liked the dynamics between Lupin and Jigen. They'll make a great team someday.
I feel like they're holding back too much with Fujiko when it comes to character development. Most of the time right now, she's just a terrible person. She'd be easier to root for if we knew a little more of her story. Hopefully the next episode can deliver there.
Apollon 4
How does this show move so fast? It's doing a good job at maintaining a breakneck pace without looking tired, but I can see where people who would like it to slow down a bit are coming from. It'd be nice to see more of the space in these relationships between the transition points, but it seems like they're biting off a ton of material for a pretty short run.
I'm interested to see how Jun will fit in this complex love polygon. He sang very well in English.
I'm consistently impressed with the high level of visual storytelling in this show. The characters' faces are so expressive without seeming exaggerated. It's not an easy feat to accomplish.
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Why is this season so damn good?
I've finally convinced my friend to catch up in Utena, so I should be able to move forward again soon, yuri goggles firmly affixed to my face.
If only there were a thread dedicated to the discussion of Fate/Zero where I could have put my detailed thoughts on the episode...
KuwabaraTheMan
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Welcome to one of the greatest anime of all time. I hope you enjoy your stay.
Hellsing321
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Why would anyone leave the safety and security of the community thread?
I haven't seen it.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
OT smells weird. It's cozy and warm in here.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Neither have I. I've seen some YouTube clips; it was more than enough.
Guess I've lost my crown of guy who has seen the least.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
It looks stupid. Pass.
Yeah or we might end up with a show like [C] ...oh.
Ricks Bread - 04
*sends cajun
Catgirl got lots of screentime, and bikini shots as well, this would please him greatly.
Now onto the star of the show.
Cockroach bread? eeeewwww.
Is there anything his bread can't do? *swoon*
http://www.ytv.co.jp/uchukyodai/info/#20120505
We finally have our first confirmation that Space Bros is definitely long than 13 episodes. The first blu-ray box set containing ep1-13 will be released at the end of September, and there will be more to come.
We finally have our first confirmation that Space Bros is definitely long than 13 episodes. The first blu-ray box set containing ep1-13 will be released at the end of September, and there will be more to come.
Well, yeah. I've actually read up a bit more on the 4koma stuff, and it gets pretty surprisingly racy at times, but like you said, they're double meanings, so the fanservice and "creepy" stuff can be taken two ways, one of which is creepy because "OMG, THEY'RE MIDDLE SCHOOLERS!" but the other isn't because "Oh wait, they're guns, so this makes sense". The logic of the series is inherently different due to the nature of the characters, and while they're clearly humanoid characters meant to be related to on a human level, they're ultimately not human, so I don't really hold them to the same standards because the application of those standards have different implications. See where I'm coming from? I'm not denying that in some contexts the fanservice can be creepy, and as much as the studentxteacher thing is played up for laughs, it can still get uncomfortable sometimes. But that's not the point. The point is Cute Guns doing Gun things.
ALL AWESOME. >
Now I've seen that you posted about the scene. To tell you the truth, I was afraid of some of the spoiler things commented on the latest pages of that thread, so I skimmed through it very fast... it didn't help that your opinion on that scene was in the latest post of the page as well...
Nice!
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
GIMME
Awesome. Looking forward to more Apo.
Jex
Member
Fascinating. We really are seeing a number of shows break free from the current 13 episode (or less) trend. Penguin Drum, Tiger and Bunny, Rinne no Langarange, ShikiFate/Zero and now Space Brothers.
I think this is definitely a good thing because the current trend of extremely short shows naturally precludes certain types of stories from being told. It wasn't always like this, a few years ago practically zero shows where 13 episodes or less.
Dedication Through Light
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A good thing? 26 episodes of Sengoku Collection is good?
PdotMichael
Banned
better than 52 episodes like in the good old Golden Age days.
But I like shorter animes more. The Noitama programming block is a good example that you can make very different animes with just 11 episodes.
The thread is scary but you can always trust me! ;_;
It really is, but I must've have completely forgotten about the panty shots.
Oh god I'm getting flashbacks. If only the main character completing the girls' arcs wasn't Junichi but his sister Miya instead. Would've been the yuri anime of the forever.
Having Junichi as a girl instead of a boy would've sufficed as well.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Lupin the 3rd: The Woman Called Fujiko Mine 5:
A step up from the previous two episodes, but I'm beginning to think that Episode 2 was a fluke and we're not going to see anything on that level again. There were some good character moments here, but it was wrapped up in a kind of dull plot which spent too much time focused on characters dodging Indiana Jones style traps. Jigen continues to be the star of the show, and is way more fleshed out than the rest of the cast.
I'm still enjoying the show, but I feel disappointed that it doesn't seem like it will be as good as I initially thought based on the first two episodes (especially 2).
Expected news, but very welcome. I look forward to enjoying the show for hopefully the next year plus.
Well, 13 episode shows have been around (and at least somewhat common) for at least a decade. I can certainly remember them existing for as long as I've followed anime. It is only in the last few years that they've become so prevalent. Up until a few years ago, 26 episode shows were the norm, with 13 episode shows being less common. There's been a bit of a reversal in the last couple of years, however.
I am glad to see more 26 episode shows now, and hopefully the trend continues. It's good to have a variety of different formats and lengths that stories can be told in. Something like Space Brothers could never be told as a 13 episode show.
A step up from the previous two episodes, but I'm beginning to think that Episode 2 was a fluke and we're not going to see anything on that level again. There were some good character moments here, but it was wrapped up in a kind of dull plot which spent too much time focused on characters dodging Indiana Jones style traps. Jigen continues to be the star of the show, and is way more fleshed out than the rest of the cast.
I'm still enjoying the show, but I feel disappointed that it doesn't seem like it will be as good as I initially thought based on the first two episodes (especially 2).
Expected news, but very welcome. I look forward to enjoying the show for hopefully the next year plus.
Well, 13 episode shows have been around (and at least somewhat common) for at least a decade. I can certainly remember them existing for as long as I've followed anime. It is only in the last few years that they've become so prevalent. Up until a few years ago, 26 episode shows were the norm, with 13 episode shows being less common. There's been a bit of a reversal in the last couple of years, however.
I am glad to see more 26 episode shows now, and hopefully the trend continues. It's good to have a variety of different formats and lengths that stories can be told in. Something like Space Brothers could never be told as a 13 episode show.
Black Rock Shooter is proof of that.
And this trend is caused by economic reasons, isn't it? This and the reduction in the number of shows per season. As long as we can see a good ratio of successes all is good, but maybe this recent trend was simply a more efficient and sensible one on a fairly restricted market.
I shouldn't have doubted you, man. Your (rational) hatred towards unrelated and badly marked spoilers is pretty apparent.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
Leave him alone, bro.
At least he has the decency to watch and recommend shows like Garzey's Wing.
I was completely oblivious of it until he came and changed me forever.
PdotMichael
Banned
I said nothing about the quality of these shows. Bad shows are bad with 11 episodes or more.
Go_Ly_Dow
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Cajunator is simply referring to the big argument that went on a while ago about the brief flashes of panties in the OP for Soredemo.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
Not if I hold back and don't invest too much in a particular character!
Jex
Member
[Sankarea] -5
This episode was certainly a big step from the last one, in pretty much every area, although I still wouldn't say that it's as good as the opening trio of episodes. There was lots of nice cinematography, some great scenery shots and solid pacing. Not a lot actually happened, which is rather disappointing, but they do a really good job of fleshing out the characters daily lives so that when something unusual happens there's a really strong contrast.
Unfortunately it did rather, er, devolve at the end with some extremely crass fanservice which I can't say I'm a fan of. It didn't really fit in with what was going on and they that it was presented was heavy handed and exploitative. It was even worse than last week in that regard and I feel the work would be much stronger without it.
Interestingly enough, both this weeks episode and last weeks episodes all come from a couple of chapters in the manga so they're really taking their time.
This episode was certainly a big step from the last one, in pretty much every area, although I still wouldn't say that it's as good as the opening trio of episodes. There was lots of nice cinematography, some great scenery shots and solid pacing. Not a lot actually happened, which is rather disappointing, but they do a really good job of fleshing out the characters daily lives so that when something unusual happens there's a really strong contrast.
Unfortunately it did rather, er, devolve at the end with some extremely crass fanservice which I can't say I'm a fan of. It didn't really fit in with what was going on and they that it was presented was heavy handed and exploitative. It was even worse than last week in that regard and I feel the work would be much stronger without it.
Interestingly enough, both this weeks episode and last weeks episodes all come from a couple of chapters in the manga so they're really taking their time.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
If you're counting split cours, like two of the shows in your list, then there have been lots of 26 episode series in the last little while - Shaft being responsible for two of them.
Sankarea 05:
ahahahahaha, oh wow. I think that we can officially give up any hope of the middle episodes of the show ever returning to form. There was less fanservice overall this episode, but it was so much more extreme in its content that I have a hard time deciding whether episode four or five is more trashy. I had hope for most of the episode that it could maybe end without anything more severe than
, but in the final couple of minutes my modest expectations were crumpled up and discarded. I usually have a high fanservice tolerance, but I find that the more that I would like a particular service scene in another show, the more I hate it in Sankarea.
Ultimately, the episode's only redeeming qualities were the increase in the number of attractive backgrounds and the increase in interaction between Chihiro and the rest of his family. Mero and Chihiro's grandfather are fun characters and deserve a bit more presence. There was no notable direction, but the episode was still technically strong. The only out-of-place scene was Chihiro's dream sequence early in the episode, which used a really ugly effect:
Next week appears to be more of the same, but I have enough goodwill stored up from the first three episodes that I can easily coast through the rest of the series even if it never recovers.
ahahahahaha, oh wow. I think that we can officially give up any hope of the middle episodes of the show ever returning to form. There was less fanservice overall this episode, but it was so much more extreme in its content that I have a hard time deciding whether episode four or five is more trashy. I had hope for most of the episode that it could maybe end without anything more severe than
the cliched "fall on top of a girl" bit
Ultimately, the episode's only redeeming qualities were the increase in the number of attractive backgrounds and the increase in interaction between Chihiro and the rest of his family. Mero and Chihiro's grandfather are fun characters and deserve a bit more presence. There was no notable direction, but the episode was still technically strong. The only out-of-place scene was Chihiro's dream sequence early in the episode, which used a really ugly effect:
Next week appears to be more of the same, but I have enough goodwill stored up from the first three episodes that I can easily coast through the rest of the series even if it never recovers.
Jex
Member
Yeah, that looked really shitty and really lazy at the same time.
Fun fact: while there is some fanservice in the manga that isn't in the anime the anime has added in some extra stuff.
Last episode:
- The scene where Rea's mother leans over the bathtub and we get that stupid breast-jiggling effect.
- The shower scene had some extra fun added to it.
This week:
- The scene early on with Rea on top of wasshisface.
- A number of shots of Wanko.
- The whole final sequence in the anime is present in the manga, but it's only in the manga very briefly, where as in the anime it's far more detailed and lengthy.
Don't get me wrong, a lot of this stuff is in manga, but it's certainly being extenuated in the anime.
Perhaps the directors hentai background is really shinning through.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
An improvement.
Imagine how he'd run with the show's concept if he had total creative freedom!
I look at your avatar now and all I can see is a loofah.
I would watch it.
Jex
Member
Well a few years ago I did something which I would never ever have time to do these days: I sat down with the internet and complied some information about the length of various shows. It wasn't the worlds best research because I only looked at four years (and even that took hours) but the results are as follows:
So the change is pretty apparent over time.
Certainly, I feel that some shows wouldn't work in a reduced format. Heck, I'd be interested in seeing a Kids on the Slope or Wandering Son that ran for 26 episodes.
Well, as long as good shows are being made it doesn't matter too much, but like I've said above there are certain stories which can't really be told in 13 episodes, and some shows have clearly suffered by trying to cram a lot of story in a short space of time. I guess that's because they couldn't secure the funding or backing for more episodes. Still, I am not saying the directors of those shows are blameless for any problems that their shows might have.
At the same time, some shows can be short and extremely efficient. Ano Natsu is one of the most efficient teen-romance stories in anime and it really succeeds because of how lean and tight the story is.
Dedication Through Light
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I wish that was true across the board, some short shows feel like they could be better if they were expanded (ozma, brave 10, new prince of tennis), while some others feel as if they even struggle to get enough content to even 13 episodes (ano hana) without resorting to exaggerating scenes.
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