firehawk12
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Jex
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Nah, because Kids on the Slope has a beat!
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I came for the Sakuga and as far as the intro and the fight scenes were concerned this definitely delivered but unfortunately I can't really say the same about the rather forgettable plot. It certainly doesn't help that this was clearly planned to be a series but it seemed that production ceased after this first episode as nothing else was made.
I don't see why the dude had to chase after his rivals little sister given he had a perfectly good childhood friend!
If your a fan of sports animes and you can look past just how painfully 80's this is at times (it was released in 1990 but that's close enough!) then you'll probably get a kick out of this.
What I don't understand is that Gatoh does comedy fairly well so for him to do straight up mysteries seems like an utter waste of his talent. I was expecting the show to be more comedic but if they revert to boring mysteries then I'm out.
This really seems like the mystery version of K-ON.
hosannainexcelsis
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The comedy in K-ON never did anything for me; it was mainly the enjoyable chemistry between the girls that kept me watching, and I feel a similar vibe from the Classics Club of Hyouka. No one is really that interesting or fleshed out on their own, but together they're pleasant and relaxing to watch.
Kids on the Slope actually has real, human, multi-faceted characters who develop and have interesting hobbies like playing jazz and going to church and the like. Not the same thing at all.
Gatoh is just adapting someone else's novel here.
Dragoon En Regalia
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Hello folks. Are you hap-py?
I've started to watch Ashita no Joe quite recently, and I'm simply enthralled by the experience it's been providing me. Even the filler feels fine when you Osamu Dezaki directing! So I'll start talking about that, and I'll eventually got to reviewing the ill-fated Hols: Prince of the Sun as well.
I've started to watch Ashita no Joe quite recently, and I'm simply enthralled by the experience it's been providing me. Even the filler feels fine when you Osamu Dezaki directing! So I'll start talking about that, and I'll eventually got to reviewing the ill-fated Hols: Prince of the Sun as well.
firehawk12
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Hyouka has hair?
Hyouka has real characters who just want to be left alone and who join clubs because they meet a cute girl.
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That was pretty good. I think the key word for this episode was "atmospheric," in that the high-quality visuals and audio established a an extremely effective atmosphere. I think this is why, despite the fairly accurate criticisms about some of the writing, the episode was mostly successful. It was very reminiscent of The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya in its ability to evoke certain moods.
While it's true it wasn't the best-written show of the season, I found the chemistry between the characters fairly enjoyable, and I think there's potential for more interesting plotlines to develop.
Kouhei Tanaka's score was masterful, as expected. Well, maybe not expected, but I certainly knew he had it in him. And this season really is spoiling us with incredible background art across a variety of shows.
What makes these backgrounds so effective is not just their technical qualities, but the way they contribute to the visual atmosphere. They're not merely pretty backgrounds for the sake of pretty backgrounds.
Also, I liked both the CGI tracking shot and Eru's eyes. So sue me.
That was pretty good. I think the key word for this episode was "atmospheric," in that the high-quality visuals and audio established a an extremely effective atmosphere. I think this is why, despite the fairly accurate criticisms about some of the writing, the episode was mostly successful. It was very reminiscent of The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya in its ability to evoke certain moods.
While it's true it wasn't the best-written show of the season, I found the chemistry between the characters fairly enjoyable, and I think there's potential for more interesting plotlines to develop.
Kouhei Tanaka's score was masterful, as expected. Well, maybe not expected, but I certainly knew he had it in him. And this season really is spoiling us with incredible background art across a variety of shows.
What makes these backgrounds so effective is not just their technical qualities, but the way they contribute to the visual atmosphere. They're not merely pretty backgrounds for the sake of pretty backgrounds.
Also, I liked both the CGI tracking shot and Eru's eyes. So sue me.
uhhhhhhhh what?
DK Mode is better. Need to add some Clamp arms into the mix.
The mysteries in this episode were obviously intended as vehicles for characterization and not the hook of the series in their own right, which is why they didn't offend me like the ones in Gosick. That and Gosick was a garbage-tier BONES show with boring visuals and the most uncompelling characters imaginable.
Wait wait wait, Kouhei Tanaka is composing this? My urge to watch Hyouka is unbearable now! ugh 4 more hours before I can watch it.
Sure, what's the threshold line for good/bad sales?
I have mixed feelings on the former. The the idea of shifting the scene slowly around the 2D character is interesting, and I like how she was framed and used in the shot, at the same time the bobbing of the camera and the quick cuts back and forth were distracting. I definitely like her eyes though.
The 3rd and 5th shot that you posted were two of my favorites in the episode. I can't recall seeing a scene with the projector screen placement like that.
You're right, Gosick actually had an overarching narrative.
In Japan atleast, the projector screens are in the corner.
Femmeworth
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Is that supposed to be negative? Be that as it may, Hyouka has one though. Its the first episode, I doubt they've shown all their cards at this point already.
Most of Kyo-Ani's shows for the past few years haven't had one. Wait was that comparison supposed to be negative towards KyoAni shows or postive?
It doesn't really matter though.
Well mine was positive. I don't know about you.
I sure as hell meant it to be negative. Atleast Bones tries with their shows to make it interesting. I can't say the same about K-ON or Endless Eight.
Trying is not the same as doing. K-ON is great.
I vehemently disagree. I'll leave it at that.
Having a continuous plot arc does not automatically make something more or less interesting. If simply requires more investment on the part of the audience to enjoy the entire ride. The continuous plot arc itself can also be uninteresting and boring. Self-contained episodic story telling is just as valid, and can be used to present interesting or exciting stories as well.
Format is only a means to an end. It's all about execution and content. If K-On sucks, it is not because there is no overarching storyline, but it would be because the material being presented is uninteresting or poorly told.
Format is only a means to an end. It's all about execution and content. If K-On sucks, it is not because there is no overarching storyline, but it would be because the material being presented is uninteresting or poorly told.
PdotMichael
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I'm more than okay with a SoL Hyouka if the next mysteries are a little deeper and more complicated. And the characters are not so dumb as in K-On! or other KyoAni productions.
Which isn't true, so K-ON is great!
Dragoon En Regalia
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Different contexts and all, yes. I'd be fine if the characters were strong and the format was episodic, or if the format was arc-based and the characters needed time to come to fruition. But either way, neither approach is going to work without experience and skill at storytelling anyway.
I would say though that attempting a large and interesting overarching narrative is harder in of itself in that you have to plan multi-episode content while still making each episode interesting in their own right. Some of the best shows I've seen though usually use a mix of episodic stories as well as mainline narratives.
I'm laughing my head off.
I like how people try to ignore the whole S2 of Haruhi and Disappearance whenever they want to slag KyoAni for Endless Eight. Hell, Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody by itself is better than the entirety of Gosick.
I'm not sure in what universe Gosick can be in any way shape or form more interesting than K-On or Haruhi but, sure, knock yourself out.
I don't get what's so funny about my post.
Certainly not any universe that we're currently living in. I mean seriously, Gosick? Lol.
He's auditioning for "resident K-on hater" but doesn't realize jman already has the role. Also, laughing your head off must hurt quite a bit.
Bingo.
Season 2 had Endless Eight. The rest of the season wasn't particularly interesting anyway. Sigh wasn't that great.
But Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody? What about that?
That's one episode. Disappearance was great too. That still doesn't make up for a shit season.
It sounds more like your personal taste in entertainment lends towards having something continuous to follow or hook your interest, rather than an actual quality judgement. It is not easier or harder to make long-form or short-form stories. The techniques required to retain audience interest varies depending on the subject matter and the intent of the storyteller.
It is definitely not easy to retain interest in a cast of characters doing different things every episode. It would require good characterization and an interesting variety of stories for every episode. What is actually easier to do is to stretch a single good idea over multiple episodes, just to milk it for all it is worth. But that isn't an attack on long-form stories either, because only lazy long-form storytelling would do something like that. In the same way, only lazy short-form storytelling would have characters do the exact same thing every episode and hope the audience doesn't get sick of it.
The quality of stories are in what is being told. The why and how of the telling is a guiding force that is neither inherently good or bad. The trick is applying the right technique to the best benefit of the material you are telling.
Ah I didn't mean it like that, but rather that I haven't seen a shot of that nature before where the projector screen is framed in the scene like that.
That's one more episode than Gosick or Un-Go ever had.
Also in case it wasn't clear, I'm not really ceding the point of Haruhi S2 being bad. I actually thought it was good. I just wanted you to see if you would attack Bamboo Leaf or bust out some mental gymnastics.
I don't think you watched enough Un-Go to make that statement. I propose a challenge!
firehawk12
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Just compare it to Book Girl already!
I don't think you watched enough Un-Go to make that statement. I propose a challenge!
Nooooooooooo! I watched errmm... 3 episodes I think. Or however many it took me to drop Guilty Crown.
Wait, a challenge. Will you watch, say, Marimite in return?
I did! Multiple times! Book Girl has legit mysteries though but its easy to figure them out if you've read the book of the moment :lol
I thought I opened the wrong tab and had an older version of the page sitting there myself.
Nooooooooooo! I watched errmm... 3 episodes I think. Or however many it took me to drop Guilty Crown.
Wait, a challenge. Will you watch, say, Marimite in return?
I don't see why not. Cute lesbians are cute.
But moe girls doing moe things and occasionally eating cake is uninteresting to me.
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