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Spring Anime 2012 III | AITAKATTA YES!
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Episode 25 - Fate/Zero: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1340453326
Time for us all to gather round and enjoy this show one last time! ;_;
Time for us all to gather round and enjoy this show one last time! ;_;
SHAFT's visuals and their imitators are the most obnoxious thing to happen to anime.
Sankarea might have been an OK show otherwise, but those effects drove me to drop it.
That's like asking if there's doctors in a hospital or something. Yes.
Also I don't see how you can call any episode from either series "largely slipshod", animation-wise. Some episodes stand out above the others in both series but they're both pretty consistently well animated.
I look forward to watching the show backwards.
Dedication Through Light
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Fate/Zero 25 (end)
Well it was an alright end. I think it would have worked better if episode 24 was just 40 something minutes including this stuff. Best parts were
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Overall Fate Zero was an alright anime with good production values and actually compelling action when it was present. For a Grail War I guess I was expecting way more action and less talking and strategizing but developing key characters like Kerry, Ryuunuosuke, Waver, Gilgamesh, and Lancelot still happend and was well. Favorites were Kerry, Waver, Ryuunosuke, worst character was Saber and Kiritsugu. 8 / 10.
Now to hope for a stateside rerelease of this and fate/stay so I can see what happens next.
Well it was an alright end. I think it would have worked better if episode 24 was just 40 something minutes including this stuff. Best parts were
Kiritsugu and Saber not winning! I was so glad, and Gilgamesh scene, wow lol awesome, and Waver's scene, and whoever that kid Shiro is scene was really touching
Overall Fate Zero was an alright anime with good production values and actually compelling action when it was present. For a Grail War I guess I was expecting way more action and less talking and strategizing but developing key characters like Kerry, Ryuunuosuke, Waver, Gilgamesh, and Lancelot still happend and was well. Favorites were Kerry, Waver, Ryuunosuke, worst character was Saber and Kiritsugu. 8 / 10.
Now to hope for a stateside rerelease of this and fate/stay so I can see what happens next.
Jex
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The SHAFT-lite elements of Sankarea as possibly the only good thing to come from either the anime or manga.
There already is a release of FSN. I might actually watch the beginning of it to see how it segues from this.
I think you'll be a bit disappointed by Fate/Stay coming from Fate/Zero. Since FSN came earlier its production values aren't as high and it doesn't make any direct references back to what you just watched in FZ.
If FZ had come first and then they made FSN it would've been much more cohesive overall and would have made for a better story. I would've really liked to see Saber's feelings from FZ transfer over to FSN, but that doesn't happen.
Jex
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Hey, you can do that right now if you'd like!
True, there isnt really a transition. Its just "later on".
I havent seen FSN in a long time though.
Wheeljack539
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There are F/Z references, but the take was well before this so some of the scenes drawn were different, such as the brief flashback of Kirei and Kiritsugu confrontation, not to mention the opening in the first episode with the Fuyuki fire is presented differently than what we just saw now.
It's DTL. He'll love it.
Basileus777
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I'm kind of curious what F/Z only viewers made of
It's not something they really explained in this show. That and
the references to Angra Mainyu.
Gilgamesh getting a physical body probably seem rather random.
Can't wait to see what happens next season. :lol
But it's not raining D:
The flashbacks and references are different visually, as well as verbally. They don't say the same things, the scenes look different, things just don't mesh together. It's not like Saber ever thinks back to Berserker or the meeting of King's and reflects on what happened. She doesn't ever tell Shirō about anything that occurred with Kiritsugu (aside from what happened specifically with the Grail).
So, in that regard, it's a bit disappointing. IMO they should just remake FSN as a direct sequel to FZ, but that will probably never happen.
Dedication Through Light
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Is FSN just out of print here or something? Amazon has the sets for like no less than 100$ used and 300$ new...
yes its way out of print.
Also LOL @ those prices.
It was Geneon thats why its expensive.
Fate/Zero END
So I think certain choices to switch the location of certain scenes annoyed me. Particularly Berserker and Saber. I don't know.... I guess I'll cross-thread posts.
Episode 25
Good episode. I see why they left out that particular scene last episode since they saved it for this one. Can't say I agree but it works I guess. Overall it was a good episode but I think the lack of explaining certain Grail related things and what ACTUALLY happened to Kiritsugu left a bitter taste in my mouth. Oh well.
EDIT: I enjoyed that the last scene is a total throwback/tie-in to Stay which is really cool. Too bad Stay will never live up to the awesomeness that is Zero so oh well...
Omg... seriously? lolz
So I think certain choices to switch the location of certain scenes annoyed me. Particularly Berserker and Saber. I don't know.... I guess I'll cross-thread posts.
Episode 25
Good episode. I see why they left out that particular scene last episode since they saved it for this one. Can't say I agree but it works I guess. Overall it was a good episode but I think the lack of explaining certain Grail related things and what ACTUALLY happened to Kiritsugu left a bitter taste in my mouth. Oh well.
EDIT: I enjoyed that the last scene is a total throwback/tie-in to Stay which is really cool. Too bad Stay will never live up to the awesomeness that is Zero so oh well...
Omg... seriously? lolz
They are pretty obnoxious. It's not that their tricks are inherently bad -- they could be cool if they used them with care and thought. But SHAFT and their hellspawn use them in such a manner that makes shows feel like a disjointed collection of "crazy" shots without much rhyme or reason created by going down a "things I learned from Shinbo and Takeuchi" checklist, not because using stock "crazy" shot X would be artistically efficient, just a reasonably good way to do whatever, or because the person behind it just liked it. One could call this an unfounded assumption, but when they have several shows, mostly adapted from other works of varying genres, tone, and style, that all visibly take from the same bag of tricks, it's not an unreasonable assumption I'd say. They seem to not make any sort of attempt to make content and expression match. I'd say there are more obnoxious things in anime though.
And there are of course, the good SHAFTly shows, but they are not the majority. Sankarea was one of them for three episodes or so, so I can't agree with you on that second part.
Basileus777
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I thought scene was freaking weird. It made me LOL. I was like, "What? What's going on?"
Truly a wonder to behold.
Ultimadrago
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Fate/Zero 25 [END]
I feel like letting this all sink in.
I feel like letting this all sink in.
That was glorious. One of the few genuinely cheerful moments of the finale!
Yeah... pretty much everyone got [
fucked over
Basileus777
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Things worked out pretty well for Kotomine and Gilgamesh. Kirei gets to troll a new generation and Gil gets a physical body to stick around with.
Basileus777
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Unlimited Blade Works is a super condensed film version of the 2nd route of the visual novel, the full FSN anime covers a different route/sequence of events than the UBW movie.
Pretty much. It has some better animation, some new fight scenes over FSN, and a certain girl gets smooshed which didn't happen in FSN, heh.
I recommend watching FSN and then going back and watching the movie. Unlimited Blade Works was really good IMO, but only if you knew the story before hand. The fight scenes were great, though, especially the final duel.
You need to have seen the original series to get what's going on in UBW, it's extremely rushed. But if you approach it as an alternative retelling aimed at the fans of the first series it's pretty good, lots of great action and cool moments.
It sucks as a stand alone movie though.
But I don't think it should be viewed as a stand alone movie by anyone.
And Stay Night never happened. omg.... just blew my mind.
Jex
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[Fate/Zero] - Finale
That didn't really feel like an episode in itself. It felt like another part of last weeks episode. That's not really Ufotable's fault, that's just one of the limits of TV anime. I imagine it will work far better for the BD release, especially when episode 24 gets fleshed out properly.
That's not to say that it wasn't a satisfying conclusion, because I suppose it was, but that really stuck out to me. Also, I don't see the point in
Here's a non-spoiler pretty image, one of the few that I can post:
That didn't really feel like an episode in itself. It felt like another part of last weeks episode. That's not really Ufotable's fault, that's just one of the limits of TV anime. I imagine it will work far better for the BD release, especially when episode 24 gets fleshed out properly.
That's not to say that it wasn't a satisfying conclusion, because I suppose it was, but that really stuck out to me. Also, I don't see the point in
having it revealed that Aoi didn't actually die. I suppose being brain-damaged and wheel chair bound is supposed to be worse than death, and as this series seems to enjoy characters suffering I suppose that as good a reason as any to have her live. It just felt wholly unnecessary and a little pointlessly cruel. Unlike Kerry's fate, which felt extremely fitting. Yes, it allowed to us to have Kirei enjoy Rin's suffering, but we already know he's a bastard.
Also, having a character show up (okay, found in the rubble) for the episode and receive zero characterisation only to proclaim that he'll be a hero is kind of a weak note to leave the show on. I know that it tie's into the next story, but still I don't want it to tie into F/SN.
Also, having a character show up (okay, found in the rubble) for the episode and receive zero characterisation only to proclaim that he'll be a hero is kind of a weak note to leave the show on. I know that it tie's into the next story, but still I don't want it to tie into F/SN.
Here's a non-spoiler pretty image, one of the few that I can post:
Dedication Through Light
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firehawk12
Subete no aware
Or the girl in the Dragon Age movie!
Sentai dubs keep on giving, my friend.
Join the club!
That said, I hope the Gintama dub isn't shit. lol
How can you hate poor Sawako?
Friendzone handshakes.bu bu but the handshakes
Waaaaaaaat!
I was wondering about that sudden name drop, because I don't remember hearing it or any related explanation on it from this series before...
We saw the end of the subtlety in which the staff handled Kirei's character some episodes ago, so I was thinking that this is kind of a recompense to his ways, going all out showing it. Complete victory for him!
Fate/Zero - 25
I love it when gen twists the knife.
Does it make me a monster that I enjoy
so much?
And good going (f/sn)
I think a lot of people are going to be confused about the sequence of events in between
and
I love it when gen twists the knife.
Does it make me a monster that I enjoy
Kirei's antics
And good going (f/sn)
Kerry, you've just turned your adoptive son into a suicidal jackass.
I think a lot of people are going to be confused about the sequence of events in between
Gilgamesh getting dumped with all the evils of the world
Kirei waking up to see naked Gil sitting sultrily on a rock.
Wasn't it the title of episode 22?
Well at least
his son gains a pretty decent harem eventually. Any father should be proud of that.
Ultimadrago
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