It's pretty good. But it's definitely a tad dry at times; it might bore you!
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Spring Anime 2012 III | AITAKATTA YES!
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Crash Station
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While more and more people pick up DMW until it hits critical mass at episode 6.
It is what it is unless it isn't then its not.
*head explode*
dakkumauji
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Acchi Kocchi 09
Cutest thing this side of ever.
Nice episode, good use of over the top electronics. Same old, same old, but at least it's still as cute as it has been.
Cutest thing this side of ever.
Nice episode, good use of over the top electronics. Same old, same old, but at least it's still as cute as it has been.
Femmeworth
Banned
There is certainly a relationship between the two, but they should be kept separate.
Same lead writer as Utena, it has to be good!
Naw because it has terrible direction, terrible execution, terrible atmosphere etc in spite of the fact the writing is fucking atrocious.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
I'm quitting animeGAF again after those two godawful posts.
I disagree. Character designs are an important component of animation. It's not just a matter of "looking good", but character designs poorly suited to animation lead to... bad looking animation, even in the hands of talented animators. Good animation character designs tend to learn towards simplistic in detail while remaining visually striking. Overly complex character designs are just nigh impossible to move convincingly.
Also some character designs that aren't necessarily complex but still lead to bad looking animation. See: Bleach. Even the "well-animated" episodes look bad, because of how terrible the character designs are. And it's not a "I don't like this" (that's a given) type of terrible, but a "everything is so blocky and huge you can't begin to move this shit" type of terrible.
I knew you'd come around to appreciate Igarashi!!
Acchi Kocchi 09
Cutest thing this side of ever.
Nice episode, good use of over the top electronics. Same old, same old, but at least it's still as cute as it has been.
Sometimes Cute is its own reason to exist.
So what you're saying is that animation serves a larger purpose as LOGH is not a middling show despite having only passable animation.
Femmeworth
Banned
Facilitating the animation isn't the primary job of the character designs. (Edit
Realistically the character designs do have to be compromised to help out the animators, though.How many episodes have you watched?
Hey, you need good direction and storyboarding to drive that animation. Also LOGH animation quality might be better than "passable" it's been so long since I've seen it!
What happened to hoping that ToonamiGAF enjoys both shows?
it's like cockfighting, only one walks out.
hosannainexcelsis
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Exactly. Koike's designs for the current Lupin show are a good example of ones that look good on paper, but in practice are much too detailed to get good animation out of. On the other hand, Horiguchi's simple designs for K-ON work wonderfully for creating that show's super-fluid animation.
Yeah, Koike's designs for Lupin are a decent example. Even the bits of "good animation" I've seen in specific places is still weird looking and weightless because the detail and overall visual style are not quite cooperative with movement, at least with TV-level budgets.
In a way, his designs are a step back to the stiff looking, hard to move character designs of the original green jacket series. It's no coincidence that series 2 and series 3 are considered (and just are) more visually appealing despite having much simpler character designs -- it's because these simpler character designs lend themselves better to animation.
Chet Rippo
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Characters can look cute in stills.
Dammit, I'm going to have to start hanging around the Toonami thread as a Casshern shill starting next week, aren't I?
too perfect
Who is the God Eagle of anime?
Im decensitised to the generic anime style of "cute"
repetition has turned it into something rather ugly to me
cute animation ie. mannerisms and expression does so much more for a character than say having gigantic bug eyes and tacked on cat ears
hosannainexcelsis
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I wasn't impressed by the animation in the original series; it's good to hear that the next two have more to offer in that regard.
Yeah, this is amazing.
Well, having four ears isn't really cute to begin with.
Femmeworth
Banned
Fujiko looks awful. That chin. D:
Chet Rippo
Member
How do manga artists make cute characters then, or are you saying there are no cute manga characters?
"Uguu~"
they can, but its not as substantial as when all the factors (voice, animation etc) combine
i was mainly referring to anime because more often than not, detail is lost in the conversion and characters lose some of the original mangakas charm
Femmeworth
Banned
You didn't post her
when she looks the most like a spider. Then again, the reason why is obvious. Heh.
Pretty similar to what I'd write.
- Character design definitely dominates my enjoyment of animation. If the characters don't look appealing to me, it's really hard for me to watch it, and if I really like them, it elevates my overall impression.
- Consistently being on-model to those designs is thus really important also.
- Behavior/personality - Yep.
- But after that I'd add in voice acting. Bad acting can make a show painful. Good acting and attractive voices are a joy to listen to and get me attached to characters.
On model meaning just good general drawing quality? Or do you really want animation to stay strictly on model all the time?
sometimes I wonder if Japanese voice acting is actually better, or if its just that im not a native speaker and cant pick up on when it is bad
Finally someone gets it.
Femmeworth
Banned
I agree that mannerisms and character behavior go a long way towards making a character cute.
Cat ears alone aint gonna do it.
Mayoi neko overrun for example is a pretty boring show despite having a catgirl prominently featured.
It's a mix, but it's without dub rewriting and forcefit acting that usually detracts further. Exceptions exist, of course.
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