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Spring Anime 2015 |OT| The Disappearance of YEAARRT!

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It's weird because I both hate it and like it at the same time. Yeah, it shits on the ending of the original show, but at the same time... I don't know, it's actually pretty good. I have never felt so split about how I feel about a story in my life.

Yeah, I really didn't like how Rebellion ended, especially given how well the original series wraps everything up. It seemed like a story that didn't need to be told imo.

That's the freaking problem I have with Rebellion. I loved the original Madoka ending. It finished the story, there were no loose ends, it all just felt so perfect.

And then Rebellion comes along and just stomps all over it.
 
If they were to make a sequel to something with a conclusive ending, Rebellion is the way to do it. I'm glad it was made. For a "milking" it's actually super good, at least.
 

Totakeke

Member
BBB 7

Yeah, not feeling this episode that much either. The directing definitely isn't as good as the earlier episodes and the cuts to not animate certain scenes are a bit too obvious that they get distracting. Hopefully this is just a lull before it gets back to form.
 

DEATH™

Member
Rejection romantically? Or like a friend. Like, he's not needed in the club anymore.



Hachiman crying would be so out of character. I feel like he has too much pride for that.



This sounds good too. The club is pretty much the only thing holding these 3 together.

Go back to the club Hachiman and tell em how you feel!



Yup. Rebellion blew me away. Now I'm gonna YouTube the Madoka soundtrack until I fall asleep.

For some reason I can't say, reading the LN, one of the sentences in this quote made me chuckle.

You guys are in for a treat.
 
Ojamajo Doremi Sharp 1
Those new outfits and porons are pretty cool. I also like the clapping transformation a whole lot too. The baby is totally adorable, and I guess Onpu is a part of the group now. At least she isn't doing that forbidden magic anymore.

I really like the clapping too.

Hana-chan is really the cutest thing!
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Enjoy it. Episode 40 is one of the best.
 

Sterok

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Magic Knight Rayearth 17-19

Kind of an odd time and way for Ferio to regain his memories. I suppose it gets the job done. Inouva doesn't make it. The super-loyal ones never do. The bad guys would probably have more success if they didn't attack the Knights in front of the big bad Rune-Gods. Cause without that they probably wouldn't revive. And even big bad Zagato doesn't act fast enough. Well robots are cool, so whatever.
And of course he did it all for love and for Emeraude. What a sweetie. And proves that love isn't necessarily a positive thing. He had a good presence, but they're called Rune-Gods for a reason. Time for that twist.

Have I mentioned how I love the evolving armor? Each iteration is cooler than the last one. The one with the Rune-Gods in particular is very awesome. Capes make everything better.
 

Sterok

Member
Magic Knight Rayearth 20

When I read the manga, the whole twist of Emeraude hating her duty and summoning the Magic Knights for an elaborate suicide plot blew my mind. A very interesting example of how the entire perspective of the series can change from one revelation. Emeraude was both the victim and the true villain. Hit hard. Hit the characters hard too. That ending was both abrupt and a downer. What a way to end it.

So yeah, season 1 of Rayearth is a classic fantasy adventure with loveable characters and charm everywhere. The plot is basic until the end, but the execution carries it all the way. Fights started out pretty good, though by the end it feels like they got lazy, even with the big scenes. It still looked good overall. Definitely a nice watch.

But it doesn't end here. Time for the next part. I remember the manga turning weird as it became more of a political thriller than adventure? Or something like that. Wouldn't call it bad, just odd. I've heard that this is where the anime really diverges, so I'm curious as to where it leads.
 

Anko

Member
Madoka Magica Rebellion
Um... I... Well... I definitely didn't see that ending coming... Err... Wow... Okay. At least I know what everyone is refering to by "Homura did nothing wrong".

I loved the ending to bits. It's all so sad imo. And then to end it with Kalafina's Kimi no Gin no Niwa. Go check out the lyrics if you haven't already. Kajiura always writes such lovely lyrics, especially for movies she writes for. Her OST is amazing too, of course. She is always on point when it comes to film scoring.

If they ended it the way Urobuchi originally intended, it would have been the ending everyone had foreseen. Everyone would cry for Homura for a week and we would have forgotten about the series after that. It would have been an unremarkable ending to a remarkable series. This ending opens doors to a new conflict. BRING ON SAYAKA (& Kyouko)!!
 

cajunator

Banned
Wait, so you're supposed to watch F S/N before Fate Zero?

WEll FSN came out waaaaaaay before Fate Zero so basically, yes if you want to watch in order of airing. However Fate Zero being a prequel obviously it shows how things in FSN came to be. The recommended order is really Fate Zero then FSN. But FSN isnt actually very good no matter which studio makes it.

Bikini Warriors TV anime this July http://bikini-warriors.com/anime/

Well this is ANIME. I like the blue haired girl.

Show by Rock 02-06
I'm sort of waiting for the shit to hit the fan. That setting in ep 01 has this written all over it. Pls hit fan soon. Thanks. ( ゚∀゚)

And I can't be the only one screaming for Cyan to hug Retoree while she was apologising in the bath. HUG HER DAMMIT.



Eila and Sanya have got to be in this one. Eila and Sanya have got to be in this one! Eila and Sanya have got to be in this one!!!!

There's no other explanation as to why they didn't get their OVA episodeeee.



Let me guess. It's from the same folks that brought us Queen's Blade?

This post is full of lilies. Im ok with this.

DanMachi 07



LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT A NEW CHALLENGER



Meat Soma 07



Bodied.

Lili best girl!
Meat not best girl.
 

XiaNaphryz

LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Saki is a great series even if you don't know how to play mahjong though of course a bit will go over your head. You just have to be ok with some superpowers and heavy lesbian overtones.

I see that Saki Achiga-hen is supposed to be a prequel of sorts in terms of timeline? Should I watch that first?
 

Rainy

Banned
The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (END)

I watched it in broadcast order so the last set of episodes I saw was "The Sigh of Haruhi Suzumiya," the episodes where they made the movie.
Talking about the last few episodes...

It was interesting to see them make the movie, since you see it first thing in the broadcast order. You kind of have a feeling where they'll go in terms of filming locations and how most things will work out but it's nice to fill in the blanks. I was waiting and waiting for Kyon to blow up at Haruhi and I'm glad he finally did. (Thank god he didn't actually hit her though...) While Haruhi always believes that he'll be on her side, I think he is also the only person who can really balance her out when she gets to her real extremes, so arguments like that are needed once in a while. Haruhi would never apologize so I knew Kyon would have to, but I liked the realization he came to before he went to do so. Also was she putting her hair into a ponytail (Kyon's favorite hairstyle on her) as he walked into the club room? Hah. Ah and at the end of these set of episodes we delve further into the mysteries of what Haruhi exactly is and the hidden agendas behind Koizumi, Asahina, and Nagato. Honestly I always felt that Koizumi was untrustworthy, so I'm interested to see how this develops (I'm guessing I'll get somewhat of an answer in "Disappearance.")

Anyway I can see how the rain episode could have been the perfect ending to the series (it would be if you watched in chronological order) but I liked this ending too, it felt good to me. I really liked the series. The banter between Kyon and Haruhi was always fun. Koizumi was annoying, and Nagato and Asahina were cute in their own way. I enjoyed the music in the actual show and also liked the first opening, but not the 2nd one nor any of the endings. Endless Eight would probably be my only gripe with the series, but after understanding why they did that, I get it and it's more tolerable. Still sucks a bit though. Anyway I've heard good things about Disappearance, so I'll be sure to watch that in the next few days and post my impressions as well.

How's the anime that's airing right now? It's more of a romcom focused on Nagato right?
 

cajunator

Banned
Is there a Bikini Warriors video game too? Probably going to be one now, it would be interesting...

Oneechanbara is the closest thing it looks like.

Best girl Suu is finally here!




Brown > Blond > Medaka/Ellen clone > Witch hat




Good.

Now go read the rest of Vol 9 for the other scene.

Sllime cutie finally shows her face!
They nailed the character designs from the look of it.

FSN UBW ep 19
Lancer with his amazing E-rank luck of the Irish.

p.s Best lancer

Agreed.
 

phaze

Member
You'll have to read the manga or light novels since the anime, including Disappearance is only a bit more than half way through the story so far, and even then there's supposed to be a new light novel eventually, although I doubt it will happen. They really should animate the rest, hopefully the Nagato Yuki-chan anime will spur someone to green light it. Still watch the Disappearance, it's good.

Edit: oh, apparently you watched it in broadcast order (from a poster below), that explains a lot.

Knew there was still material to be adabted but I wasn't aware they covered only so little. Oh well.

This is what you get for watching in broadcast order. In chronological order it makes sense and Haruhi has a great progression over the course of the show.

Something, something, broadcast order is a puzzle and it has a better ending. ;p Or so I've heard. Will be looking forward to that progression.

Madoka Magica Rebellion
Um... I... Well... I definitely didn't see that ending coming... Err... Wow... Okay. At least I know what everyone is refering to by "Homura did nothing wrong".

The only good thing about that ending is that Sayaka is now undoubtedly the best girl.
 

cajunator

Banned
When you can't convince others, you gotta play on their level.

AHHHH that avatar is so cute!

Came in exactly 1 month early, I bought this for the 2D mechs, tummies, and dat launch sequence.

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I might buy it for Hana. Does it come with anything special or just a standard release?

Bro its not even a contest that she's the best Caster.

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Yeah mofu Caster is easily the best.
Not even a contest!

Going to watch Gasaraki as it have been in my DVD collection for a while now. Never heard much of the show except people say it's like Evangelion and I like the mecha look. Anyone have to say about the show or expectation for it (no spoilers plz).

Honestly this was one of the most boring shows I have ever watched.
Im sure not everyone will think that but the slow pacing, the plain art style, and the lack of memorable character personalities just made this a dull experience for me.
 

ibyea

Banned
Further thoughts on Madoka Magica Rebellion:

Ignoring the first atrocious fan fiction level first 30 minutes, this was both amazing and atrocious movie, The movie turns a dark, but bittersweet story of love and sacrifice into an absolute tragedy borne from suffering, thereby annihilating everything that was the point of the finale of the original show. Homura's selfish decision overrides Madoka's choice and makes her sacrifice count for nothing. Seriously, that ending is completely meaningless. No magical girls got saved from despair. What was once a climax is just an event. That love is now an obsession. That hope is now not giving a fuck at all except Madoka. That impetus to save Madoka devolved into how she could keep her for herself.

At the same time here is the thing, it was done really well, and I can see why she did what she did as screwed up as it is. At the very least the movie was off its rockers towards the end (well, it was kind of off its rocker at the beginning as well, what's up with the cake song?), and whether that is awesome is something only you can decide (I liked that movie went full on crazy). If there was any way to screw up with the status quo established previously, this is a great way to go about it. And if the original show were a tragedy, it would be something like this. Aside from the first 30 minutes I can't decide whether it's good or bad, it's both! The difficulty comes from the fact that the movie is not isolated from the show and so it overrides the show's beautifully built up climax, but at the same time it feels like a logical progression, as if it couldn't have happened otherwise. God why would they do this to me? ;_;
 

cajunator

Banned
Sabegebul 6-10

How can someone be so cruel and lovable at the same time.

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2 more episodes, I really don't want this to end.

Its a delicate balance. Too far and you get Cross ange. Too likeable and the character is unbelievable. Momoka is right in the middle. Just enough of a jerk to be effective, but not so much that shes a despicable bitch. Absolutely masterful.

Puella Magi Madoka Magica

Just watched this for the first time. People told me that this was supposed to be grimdark Sailor Moon, but I thought it was a nice bittersweet story with dark moments that didn't come off as juvenile attempts at edge (sup, Magi). I did enjoy how the show tries to initially play itself off as something a lot more innocent, and then the drastic shift in tone in the ED after a sudden critical death. I was completely not expecting the great creative visuals though. Every encounter with a witch or the like was such a treat.

Total bummer of an ending.

Since I totally missed out on this when it was hot, can people tell me what the reception to the show and certain episodes were like here? I regret not watching it along with everyone else.

Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet

This was okay. EXCEPT FOR ALL THE GARBAGE CG. Actually, the story was pretty meh too. And the in your face fanservice in some episodes was weird. Especially considering the age of some of the girls...

I admit the sudden bootyshaking made me laugh so hard that I had to pause the show to compose myself. So weird!

At least there were some pretty shots of the boats and city.

Madoka Magica was a phenomenon. Far beyond the usual anime discussion, the OT for it was incredibly busy and full of specula. Websites were made discussing the imagery and plot. Predictions to the ending. Discussion of the art and execution. Oh man it was amazing. The show was a phenomenal success saleswise as well.

Ugh Soma pisses me off.

I wanna enjoy all the shounen cooking food battles but it has to shove all the ecchi shit in my face every other scene.

Yes I get it the girl has big floopy tits, I noticed the first damn time.

I should just read the manga but then I can't see the food in color, this sucks.

Soma is all about that though. thats its main selling point. Its literally food porn. The reactions are way over the top and fanservicey. Perhaps Gourmet Girl Graffiti would more fit your tastes.

Magic Knight Rayearth 9-12

Ascot is terrible at taking care of his friends. Took him awhile to figure that out. Why are the Rune-gods giant robots anyway? The awesome factor? Ferio gets more screen-time, Fuu remains smart, and Umi gets most of the best scenes. Emeraude sure has a lot of freedom in helping the Magic Knights.

I cant wait till you see the ending. This will be excellent.
 

phaze

Member
The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya 10/04

Okay, that
sudden switch from what I thought was going to be an awkward love confession into the "I'm an alien and I need to kill you in order to observe a change in Suzumiya's behaviour"
was hilarious.
 

Thoraxes

Member
Madoka Magica was a phenomenon. Far beyond the usual anime discussion, the OT for it was incredibly busy and full of specula. Websites were made discussing the imagery and plot. Predictions to the ending. Discussion of the art and execution. Oh man it was amazing. The show was a phenomenal success saleswise as well.
Madoka was my gateway show to participation in animegaf. Easily one of the most fun fanbases to participate in for discussion and speculation for a series as it was airing. The delay because of Japan's national disaster made that huge gap of time for rampant speculation after we basically got the plot bomb of major revelations the last episode before that delay.

(Also that Captain Earth question you asked; it's a standard release)
 

cajunator

Banned
Chobits ep. 4-6:
Still very cute, but that damn foreshadowing from the kids book at the end. Weird things are starting to go on as well. I guess now is when the "weird" stuff starts to happen, lol. Poor dude needs to hook up with his bosses daughter, Yumi.

It goes in a quite interesting and unexpected direction. Keep watching. You will see it start to develop but there is a lot of little side stories and filler.
Its quite a satisfying ending though.

Madoka Magica Rebellion
Um... I... Well... I definitely didn't see that ending coming... Err... Wow... Okay. At least I know what everyone is refering to by "Homura did nothing wrong".

I love how it ends ad its pretty much the only thing Homura could do in that situation given how she feels and what she is prone to do. Honestly dont see why people dislike it so much especially in the context of the show.

Magic Knight Rayearth 20

When I read the manga, the whole twist of Emeraude hating her duty and summoning the Magic Knights for an elaborate suicide plot blew my mind. A very interesting example of how the entire perspective of the series can change from one revelation. Emeraude was both the victim and the true villain. Hit hard. Hit the characters hard too. That ending was both abrupt and a downer. What a way to end it.

So yeah, season 1 of Rayearth is a classic fantasy adventure with loveable characters and charm everywhere. The plot is basic until the end, but the execution carries it all the way. Fights started out pretty good, though by the end it feels like they got lazy, even with the big scenes. It still looked good overall. Definitely a nice watch.

But it doesn't end here. Time for the next part. I remember the manga turning weird as it became more of a political thriller than adventure? Or something like that. Wouldn't call it bad, just odd. I've heard that this is where the anime really diverges, so I'm curious as to where it leads.

Aww I thought it was gonna surprise you but you already know the ending from the manga. Boo.
 
Further thoughts on Madoka Magica Rebellion:

Ignoring the first atrocious fan fiction level first 30 minutes, this was both amazing and atrocious movie, The movie turns a dark, but bittersweet story of love and sacrifice into an absolute tragedy borne from suffering, thereby annihilating everything that was the point of the finale of the original show. Homura's selfish decision overrides Madoka's choice and makes her sacrifice count for nothing. Seriously, that ending is completely meaningless. No magical girls got saved from despair. What was once a climax is just an event. That love is now an obsession. That hope is now not giving a fuck at all except Madoka. That impetus to save Madoka devolved into how she could keep her for herself.

At the same time here is the thing, it was done really well, and I can see why she did what she did as screwed up as it is. At the very least the movie was off its rockers towards the end (well, it was kind of off its rocker at the beginning as well, what's up with the cake song?), and whether that is awesome is something only you can decide (I liked that movie went full on crazy). If there was any way to screw up with the status quo established previously, this is a great way to go about it. And if the original show were a tragedy, it would be something like this. Aside from the first 30 minutes I can't decide whether it's good or bad, it's both! The difficulty comes from the fact that the movie is not isolated from the show and so it overrides the show's beautifully built up climax, but at the same time it feels like a logical progression, as if it couldn't have happened otherwise. God why would they do this to me? ;_;

It's somewhat amusing as a troll, but as a way to structure a story, it's just terrible writing.
 

cajunator

Banned

please put all of this in spoiler tags.

Madoka was my gateway show to participation in animegaf. Easily one of the most fun fanbases to participate in for discussion and speculation for a series as it was airing. The delay because of Japan's national disaster made that huge gap of time for rampant speculation after we basically got the plot bomb of major revelations the last episode before that delay.

(Also that Captain Earth question you asked; it's a standard release)

Thanks AWESOMEBEAR. I will hold off on buying this until later. Trying to concentrate on getting LE's mostly and getting standard releases later.
 
I see that Saki Achiga-hen is supposed to be a prequel of sorts in terms of timeline? Should I watch that first?
The order would be Saki, Saki Achiga-hen episode of Side-A and then Saki the Nationals.

Saki Achiga is a side story/prequel of sorts that involves a different school. I can't say much about it because spoilers. Some people like Basileus777 don't like it for some...questionable things that happen, but it is an important side story regardless of what you may think of the things that take place.
 

Thoraxes

Member
Isn't Rebellion another one of those fan mock-ups like Darker than Black 2, Gunslinger Girls 2 and the Usagi Drop manga? I'm pretty sure they don't exist.
Are those like the E7 movie and sequel season?
Thanks AWESOMEBEAR. I will hold off on buying this until later. Trying to concentrate on getting LE's mostly and getting standard releases later.
It's all good!

I had my preorder locked in at $30 somehow, so I decided to go through with it.

Most standard releases I usually wait for the Christmas sales.
 

cajunator

Banned
what are you doing.

go.

WEll I can go today at least. Its open for 6 hours today.
Mainly I go to see artist alley and the dealers room. Artist alley might be a no-go because most artist leave on Sunday. Dealers room might be picked clean of the good stuff but Ill go check it out I guess.
Fuck Im so mad at myself.
 
That's the freaking problem I have with Rebellion. I loved the original Madoka ending. It finished the story, there were no loose ends, it all just felt so perfect.

And then Rebellion comes along and just stomps all over it.

I really , REALLY disagree with the bolded... there is like an entire discussion between homura and madoka in rebellion about those loose ends in that supposed "perfect ending.

That "perfect" ending ignore the character that did the most behind the scene work in the franchise and whose goals weren't completed. The original ending was alright , good even ...but let's not act as if everything was solved
 
Having finished the second Euphonium novel, I've become annoyed at the producers and publicity staff emphasizing the four girls for merchandising/sales reasons over the other aspects of the concert band. Euphonium's charm is its ability to weave tales from many members together into one narrative, but thus far Oohashi, Nakamura, and Saito have been content to only push Kumiko, Hazuki, Sapphire, and Reina (with the KyoAni Shop adding Asuka, Haruka, and Kaori). It really reeks of trying to sell this show to otaku and ignoring your other possible revenue streams (literally no Taki/Shuichi merchandise?!). I wouldn't be surprised if those three (and probably Hideaki Hatta) pushed for the additional content needed to space the first novel into a cour to focus on those four for the merchandising reasons alone.

This isn't a complaint about the work itself; I'm still immensely enjoying the show. I personally feel the other aspects surrounding it don't really depict the Euphonium novel as well as it could/should be. (And watching the first PV after reading the novel emphasized that back in March for me)
 

LegatoB

Member
Anime production committees misrepresenting a show in merchandising in the hopes of making more money selling character goods to otaku? I've never, even heard of a such a thing happening before.
 

Midonin

Member
Show By Re-Kan!! 07

The CG is still fun to watch. So it can work in anime, as long as it's going for a heavily stylized look, as this show and Etotama prove. I like how they're integrating bands outside of the core five into the plot, such as the ghost band in this episode. Makes me hope that the Sentai band can make an appearance later.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I hope Iroha wins

I like Iroha as a character a lot better than either Yui or Yukino actually. Yukino seems to get pissed off over basically anything and refuses to admit Hachiman is her friend for some insane person reason (even though she is completely aware of how he is) and Yui doesn't really have any hidden depths.
 

Cornbread78

Member
I like Iroha as a character a lot better than either Yui or Yukino actually. Yukino seems to get pissed off over basically anything and refuses to admit Hachiman is her friend for some insane person reason (even though she is completely aware of how he is) and Yui doesn't really have any hidden depths.

They need to give us a Yui story arc at some point. It's been all Hiki and Yuki for awhile now In terms of depth. We know she likes Hiki but can't come clean about her feelings. I think Hiki knows it too...
 
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