Hellwarden
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DC is just killing it lately guys.
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Spring Anime 2016 |OT| Get a Season So Complicated
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DC is just killing it lately guys.
nintendoman58
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No I'm 100% serious about Turn A Gundam being a show filled with morons. People are doing irrational things for no good reason all the time, or sometimes just dumb as hell shit because they are dumb.
MetroidPrimeRib
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havent seen turn a but 90% of gundam characters are indeed morons
hosannainexcelsis
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I mean, anime can do serious drama well; just look at Showa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu for a recent example. And if you're talking about the melodramatic nature of Joker Game, that isn't really different from the stereotypical Asian live-action TV drama.
What am I looking at here?
I'm not really in the mood to do a lengthy post about why Joker Game Episode 4 was bad but the short version is that 2/3rds of this was a really boring and dry case and the other 1/3rd was over the top villainry with overdone animation in the same tone as Death Parade. At least the other episode had an interesting premise and location. The other episode's limited scope worked much better than what is presented here.
Then there is the revelation which is just over the top. Having a guy literally cackle about why the people he killed is worth less than dirt, sets a bad tone in your semi-'realistic' spy show. Not to mention the animator who did the character animation just went overboard resulting in a scene that is hammy at best.
I didn't say it can't. I just don't trust almost all anime directors to do it in a non-exaggerated tone.
Then there is the revelation which is just over the top. Having a guy literally cackle about why the people he killed is worth less than dirt, sets a bad tone in your semi-'realistic' spy show. Not to mention the animator who did the character animation just went overboard resulting in a scene that is hammy at best.
I didn't say it can't. I just don't trust almost all anime directors to do it in a non-exaggerated tone.
Officer Houdini.
Crash Station
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Killing Joke trailer and a dude glued to a door.
God of War is shit and the people who like it are arguably supporters of shit!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hellwarden
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Kratos is totally justified in killing the entire human race because he killed his family.
Why can't people understand his point of view?
Why can't people understand his point of view?
Joker Game 4
The two tailing sequences through the alleys in this episode were good enough to make me care about what was going on, which is more than I could say for the prior episode. But the hammy "reveal" made a hash of what could have been a much more interesting plot idea. Way too much stuff in this show is told rather than shown.
The episode 5 synopsis on the site might get me to stick around for one more episode. I really wish this show knew how to execute.
The two tailing sequences through the alleys in this episode were good enough to make me care about what was going on, which is more than I could say for the prior episode. But the hammy "reveal" made a hash of what could have been a much more interesting plot idea. Way too much stuff in this show is told rather than shown.
The episode 5 synopsis on the site might get me to stick around for one more episode. I really wish this show knew how to execute.
hosannainexcelsis
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Well, that's just that Japanese film/TV directors in general tend to accentuate melodrama; I don't think it's an anime-specific thing. Melodrama isn't a bad thing in itself, of course - I'm a big fan of Osamu Dezaki, who was a master at melodrama - but if applied in the wrong way it can become a problem.
Did they get the animators of the new Powerpuff Girls to do this?
nintendoman58
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I've only watched 20 episodes of Turn A and I can safely say that Harry, Kihel, Dianna, Loran are good characters so far.
Loran is a pacifistic Gundam protagonist that actually knows how to fight the enemy without senseless murder from the start. I'd hardly call that moronic.
Kihel and Dianna, one being a commoner and the other a space queen that look alike switch places with one another and the way they deal with it is pretty spectacular.
And then there's Harry Ord, who's one of the better Char Clones I've seen.
Nobody in Turn A has ever seemed like an infuriating moron to me so I don't know what you're talking about.
Like, maybe Sochie, but her actions are all fuelled by her desire to get revenge for her father, so I wouldn't hold it against the show.
As I recall, the whole reason the initial conflict started is because Guin knew the Moonrace was coming, but didn't bother telling anyone about it until they arrived. Will Game makes a series of bad life choices. Gavane Goony screws around with a bunch of nuclear warheads until one finally goes off right in his lap. And that's just the examples I remember off the top of my head.
It's not a smart cast, for the most part.
Here's the thing though, up until the end of the episode I didn't view it as melodramatic. The problem is the sudden escalation (and both bad writing and animation) that just throws everything into a tail-spin.
Some spoilers because someone is watching it right now in this thread but other memorable ones include.
Trying to ride a barrel from a spaceship back down to earth.
Everything the main villain and his cohorts does or says.
Everything the main villain and his cohorts does or says.
Also to the point of the two look alikes. They do some dumb, dumb stuff later on. Harry Ord and for the most part Loran are pretty rational actors most of the time, but even they have moments of reverse brilliance.
hosannainexcelsis
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It's safe to say that modulation of tone is a frequently seen problem in anime. I haven't watched Joker Game 4 yet, but the over-the-top nature of the two villains in the first two episodes did bother me. That's the sort of stuff that should be left to Ace Attorney culprit breakdowns.
nintendoman58
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Any Gundam show with Tomino at the head is going to have it's fair share of silliness, but you gotta really learn to roll with it and laugh at that silliness, because it's Tomino silliness.
Tomino silliness is a special brand of silliness that almost always makes a work worth watching, despite whether some things in the show seem smart.
Tomino silliness is a special brand of silliness that almost always makes a work worth watching, despite whether some things in the show seem smart.
Trust me, episode 4 is much worse. I didn't mind it at all in the first two and here it really rubbed me raw.
'Tomino silliness,' sure, but they're still all morons.
Based Tomino. His next level storytelling goes unappreciated yet again.
nintendoman58
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Ladies and gentlemen, a Tomino show.
Well maybe. But in Turn A's case it's a lot more watchable and enjoyable compared to other Gundam shows.
Well maybe. But in Turn A's case it's a lot more watchable and enjoyable compared to other Gundam shows.
After 3 episodes, I'll say the funniest thing about Joker Game is how for a story about a national spy agency set during a time a war where said nation is an aggressor, it tries so damn hard to be as neutral as possible, to the point of being comical. At first I found it refreshing that it was pragmatic about what spies do, but the guy's reaction to Japan and Germany being official allies in ep3 was hilarious. I don't find it believable at all that someone in that position would be surprised at all with the developments in 1940. Just weird.
Cornbread78
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Anyone check out the anime deals from the PSN "Golden Week" sale? Anything worth taking advantage of the price for?
AoT season 1 (HD) for $12.99?
AoT season 1 (HD) for $12.99?
Admiral Woofington
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hosannainexcelsis
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Yeah, that was funny. They really didn't want to be seen as endorsing Nazi Germany in any possible fashion.
He didn't even need to be supporting it honestly. Just don't look like it's some SHOCKING NEWS. If they just played the confessional scene out with a more fatalistic tone, it would be fine. You can be on the wrong side, doing questionable things, without actually endorsing the actions or motivations of your leaders. It still makes you a bad person probably, but that perspective is interesting to me. Trying to downplay it more than that is what takes me out of the show sometimes.
An impression that, however unfortunately, is one hundred percent accurate.
hosannainexcelsis
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Tonkatsu DJ Agetarou 3
DJ Oily is an amazing guy.
DJ Oily is an amazing guy.
Admiral Woofington
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I'm glad he went for DJ Oily, other reasons he had aside, because I liked his music better
Joe Molotov
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I'm worried about DJ Oily's long-term health, however.
Admiral Woofington
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DC is just killing it lately guys.
animation and artstyle is bothering me. For a big portion of the ad I thought it was a fake trailer.
was the Love Live Sunshine PV posted?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpGdhu8gWPo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpGdhu8gWPo
Tyrant Rave
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Just finished Giant Robo: The Animation
Amazing show. So glad I watched this, everything about it was fantastic.
Amazing show. So glad I watched this, everything about it was fantastic.
You might enjoy Imagawa's other works like Shin Mazinger Z which is similar to Giant Robo but celebrating the works of Go Nagai as opposed to Mitsuteru Yokoyama. If you liked the wuxia elements of it, G Gundam has a ton of that.
ShinRPGamer
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DC is just killing it lately guys.
Quality that The Killing Joke deserves.
hosannainexcelsis
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Gargantia on the Verderous Planet 6
Now this is a top-tier Yamauchi episode.
Now this is a top-tier Yamauchi episode.
Turn A Gundam is definitely full of idiots, but the point is supposed to be that people really can do stupid things out of greed, a desire for glory, incompetence, or sheer intolerance. The show is also for children, so some of the things can be silly and simple so that the target audience can get it and be entertained. Like the episode where Kihel is like "I must reassure the moon race that thunderstorms are a natural phenomenon and that the Earthlings are not shamans", that was great.
Being for kids is also why just about every episode has a robot fight of some kind in it and some of the reasoning for the fighting within an episode can be rather contrived.
I really need to get back and finish Xabungle. I watched all that was available of it years ago but never got back on after the rest of the show was subbed.
Being for kids is also why just about every episode has a robot fight of some kind in it and some of the reasoning for the fighting within an episode can be rather contrived.
I really need to get back and finish Xabungle. I watched all that was available of it years ago but never got back on after the rest of the show was subbed.
Chaotic-Strike
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DC is just killing it lately guys.
It doesn't help they're basing it on the recolor version.
I always found it bland compared to the original despite the original author's intention.
That did seem weird because they are obvious allies and Imperial Japan was as atrocious as NAZI Germany.
You guys are making it really hard for me to decide but I guess I'll keep stalling it until I'm certain of something or I'll just watch if I run out of things.
I can't say I was captivated by the show visually, I saw it a few years ago, I wasn't very perceptive of visual finesse but I do remember I only watched it because it got high ratings on anime planet lol - I thought "why magical girl has so high ratings".
You can say it broke my perception of a theme/genre/setting in many ways after I finished it so it's kind of personal as well.
Not entirely relevant but my two cents on the show: I love Gargantia because it gives a good sense of scale with its setting (goes from space battle in one corner to a small post apocalyptic civilization in another corner) and even pushes for some interesting themes through out the narrative.
Chamber is one awesome mech.
I wish it gets a sequel.
Macross Delta 4
YF-31 SIEGFREID design is 👌
I know hayate said he only join if he can do whatever, but it's hilarious how he just starts dancing in the vf. Mikumo is weird af, and rip freyja. Looking forward to see why freyja peps are such dicks. Show just gets better each ep for me.
Messer to contract vars in future ep
YF-31 SIEGFREID design is 👌
I know hayate said he only join if he can do whatever, but it's hilarious how he just starts dancing in the vf. Mikumo is weird af, and rip freyja. Looking forward to see why freyja peps are such dicks. Show just gets better each ep for me.
Miraculous Ladybug 1-20
it's actually a french CG cartoon.
it follows pretty much the same formula every episode.
and yet... I for some reason am still watching it and might even say I am enjoying it to some degree
so, think Sailor Moon villain of the week stuff combined with spiderman for combat (and one liners) the main female is a magical girl like sailor moon and even has a guidance creature like luna but her combat style is very spiderman with wall jumping and using a yoyo to swing from building to building. She has her tuxedo mask but he is reversed to sailor moon where he is mostly one liners in tuxedo mask form, and charming in normal form and spidermoon is still in love with his charming side, thus doesn't have romantic interest in his tuxedo mask side.
It's just odd and amazingly even though the villain count is up to 21 we haven't really had a similar feeling villain. Just had to do a quick review somewhere and because it is so inspired by sailor moon I figured this would be a good place to do so
alright, so technically this isn't anime, though it is done by toei animation and namco bandai
it's actually a french CG cartoon.
it follows pretty much the same formula every episode.
and yet... I for some reason am still watching it and might even say I am enjoying it to some degree
so, think Sailor Moon villain of the week stuff combined with spiderman for combat (and one liners) the main female is a magical girl like sailor moon and even has a guidance creature like luna but her combat style is very spiderman with wall jumping and using a yoyo to swing from building to building. She has her tuxedo mask but he is reversed to sailor moon where he is mostly one liners in tuxedo mask form, and charming in normal form and spidermoon is still in love with his charming side, thus doesn't have romantic interest in his tuxedo mask side.
It's just odd and amazingly even though the villain count is up to 21 we haven't really had a similar feeling villain. Just had to do a quick review somewhere and because it is so inspired by sailor moon I figured this would be a good place to do so
Jex
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I assume its based on your location and demographics. In the UK a certain large portion of the population sees it all as "that tentacle porn stuff".
yeah, but a certain large proportion of the population still watches reality tv and thinks that's cool, so i dunno if you gotta be an ambassador 100% of the time
/edit i realise this is equivalent to an 'all anime is tentacle porn' pov but I don't think I've seen a single instance of reality tv i'd categorise as worthwhile
/edit i realise this is equivalent to an 'all anime is tentacle porn' pov but I don't think I've seen a single instance of reality tv i'd categorise as worthwhile
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