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Square-Enix tech demo on the 360...
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CabbageRed
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Don't they usually take pre-exsisting material and tune it up for real time demos?
CabbageRed
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Talking about the demo... not FFXI. (Why do I get the sinking feeling that every 360/SquareEnix thread is going to have that same reply from someone who wants to remind us that FFXI already exsists)
StephaneC said:
Upgraded graphics was announced but the same content (based on what state FFXI will be at the games launch)...
I'm not sure if you know this but your character is stored on the POL server and thus will transfer over to whichever version of FFXI you plan to currently play on. I swap between the PC and PS2 version all the time. Now I'll be able to use the X360 version if I want to play with even better graphics...and so will any other FFFXI player that buys the system down the line.
it's not like I'll have to pay double fees or something...it's nice to have options. And as was stated FFXI is not THE ONLY GAME in development. You can practically guarantee World of Mana now (if it turns out not to be a handheld title) and any other POL title down the pipe. Likely console versions of any PC POL title they have in development will hit PS3 and X360.
Why would they do that? The fact that FFXI is on 360 means they prefer MS's online solution.StephaneC said:
Somehow, I don't think so. Yes, it plays PS2 games, but will it play HDD-based PS2 games? We'll have to see. But it's certainly not as easy as flicking a switch - they would have to design the new HDD design around the PS2 format, which could be messy.
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Shouta
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I thought there was a HDD slot on the specs for the PS3 already?
As for graphics, they'll probably be able to up the ante even more on graphics now since it was the PS2 that was holding it back. However, I don't think it'll be much of a jump since there's still quite a contingent of PS2 players and they're still the bottlenecks. Just hope they don't require you to have Xbox live to use POL for FFXI because if Xbox Live is setup like it is now for 360, you'll have to pay the Xbox Live fee and FFXI fee to boot.
As for graphics, they'll probably be able to up the ante even more on graphics now since it was the PS2 that was holding it back. However, I don't think it'll be much of a jump since there's still quite a contingent of PS2 players and they're still the bottlenecks. Just hope they don't require you to have Xbox live to use POL for FFXI because if Xbox Live is setup like it is now for 360, you'll have to pay the Xbox Live fee and FFXI fee to boot.
FFXI will probabaly just look the same way as it does on a high end PC.
The actual needed improvements in graphics won't come (i.e. customization on armour and characters look, variety in monsters, etc) It will just be higher processing on the textures and models.
This is such a bad idea.
MS had the chance to convert me by announcing a new FFXI game.
The actual needed improvements in graphics won't come (i.e. customization on armour and characters look, variety in monsters, etc) It will just be higher processing on the textures and models.
This is such a bad idea.
MS had the chance to convert me by announcing a new FFXI game.
CrimsonSkies
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They hinted a lot about future collaborations but who knows. The Square-Enix guy said this is their representation of what they think the Xbox 360 can pull off, so it's a render all the way.
Jonnyram said:
This should be obvious... Sony wants the FF line of titles... everything else is secondary. I'm sure they have no problem with other Square titles appearing elsewhere, but the flagship stays at "home".
FFXI was the online experiment for Square, and with mostly success... but XII is an offline game.
Not bad with a console priceTabris said:
Well from what I've read, it sounds like they will improve graphics. Since it's a console, they can get pretty specific with improvements, and I reckon they'll beef up a lot of the weapon skills and magic effects. Playing on a sofa with a wireless keyboard and a projector would be nice. Voice chat would suck though... totally kills the atmosphere of an MMORPG.
I stopped playing FFXI at level 63, so there is still plenty of reason for me to go back, but I don't think I will unless they actually add new content and/or new ways to play. RDM sucked after level 41
But the big pull of this is that it gives FFXI players an upgrade solution. They get a next-gen console, with a tight online package, and improved FFXI. I can see existing players being pretty interested, especially if PS3 won't play it.
But if paid off bigtime. XII started development before XI was even released, so they didn't know how successful it would be. If they put more staff behind the next online FF, it could be outclass XI severely.DarienA said:
FMO is still coming to PS2. So they haven't completly abandoned online titles on a Sony console.
We'll see if they actually support the Xbox360 if they release more online games on it. I bet you they're doing this to get into the good books with MS while waiting for Sony's online strategy for PS3.
We'll see if they actually support the Xbox360 if they release more online games on it. I bet you they're doing this to get into the good books with MS while waiting for Sony's online strategy for PS3.
They won't up the graphics on effects. That would splinter their development (of patchs) between 2 different platforms (PS2 and PC (they have to support their minimum specs) vs XBOX360)
All they can do is release the same game with ported code for XBox. Now the XBox will process the models and textures and all that jazz on a high-end PC level, but that's all you get.
The PC minimum specs and PS2 is a bottleneck they can't get past.
All they can do is release the same game with ported code for XBox. Now the XBox will process the models and textures and all that jazz on a high-end PC level, but that's all you get.
The PC minimum specs and PS2 is a bottleneck they can't get past.
accord 4 me
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Jonnyram said:
its 100% confirmed it won't come with one?
accord 4 me
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Tabris said:
exactly. if anything i think sony is still holding off on details to make sure microsoft doesn't change their specs. keep microsoft with their 20 gb, so sony can have a bigger one when the ps3 comes out. announce it now, and microsoft could up it
"We'll see if they actually support the Xbox360 if they release more online games on it. I bet you they're doing this to get into the good books with MS while waiting for Sony's online strategy for PS3."
The Squeenix guy himself said this is just the begining of their relationship with MS and that they have more games in the making. That's why they even showed this tech demo...so no.
The Squeenix guy himself said this is just the begining of their relationship with MS and that they have more games in the making. That's why they even showed this tech demo...so no.
Alex
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FFXI PC looks largely identical to the PS2 release sans the obvious and a slightly different lighting scheme. There's no special effects or model difference whatsoever.
Well, I guess you could say there is since I couldn't fucking get the blazing heat or armor gleam effects to work on my PC, I swear my card supported it, but it just wouldn't work, bah.
Well, I guess you could say there is since I couldn't fucking get the blazing heat or armor gleam effects to work on my PC, I swear my card supported it, but it just wouldn't work, bah.
Did anyone catch the S/E demo for PS2 (not FF7) but the one that looked like Kazham a little. Hell it even had some similar plants. Not saying anything, but you think something could be going on we dont know about? Someone get the wrong footage or something? Cause i swear if that was FFXI on PS3 i'm sold. I'm coming back to my moogle and i'm bringing friends.
Most likely that wasn't even FF11 running on Xbox 360...far to many scenes with too much detail. Likely just a montage of highend PC shots.
I mean Peter Moore stated not to expect Square in a magazine taht went to press last week so this announcement happened very recently. Likely down to the wire.
And yes I'm doubting the tech demo. They may have had that prepped for something down the line (Backup plan if FF7 demo wasn't ready maybe) and just tossed it out for teh hell of it to show their "faith" in the hardware.
I'd personally just be happy if i could use the character models from the character creation bit...my Elvaan's never looked right when I made them when they cut the poly's in the real world setting.
I mean Peter Moore stated not to expect Square in a magazine taht went to press last week so this announcement happened very recently. Likely down to the wire.
And yes I'm doubting the tech demo. They may have had that prepped for something down the line (Backup plan if FF7 demo wasn't ready maybe) and just tossed it out for teh hell of it to show their "faith" in the hardware.
I'd personally just be happy if i could use the character models from the character creation bit...my Elvaan's never looked right when I made them when they cut the poly's in the real world setting.
So what exactly did SE say about FFXI on 360? Anything new at the MS conference?
I'm actually more impressed that MS got SE to port XI than I would have been if SE announced an offline FF was going to 360. I thought the way Live was set up (especially the voice chat and billing) would be such a large impediment to PlayOnline that we'd never see SE's online games on 360. It does make sense though; with the discontinuation of the original PS2 and hard drive, SE needed somewhere to go both for existing users needing to replace a PS2 and new users. I'm sure PlayOnline titles will show up on PS3 eventually once Sony's online stuff is unveiled.
Still, I'm curious as to how SE is going to integrate PlayOnline with Live. They both serve basically the same purpose, and supposedly MS requires 360 games to support all the Live stuff. Definitely not looking forward to voice chat in XI. It works for some games, but MMOs with pickup parties? {No thanks}
And PS2 vs. PC? What kind of rig do you have Alex? Seriously, FFXI running on a decent PC makes the PS2 version look like absolute shit. I own both and almost never play the PS2 game because it's so damn ugly. One of my friends used to run it on a high-end rig outputting to his 42" DLP TV, and the game looked fabulous. It's still a pretty game (although that's more due to art than anything).
I'm actually more impressed that MS got SE to port XI than I would have been if SE announced an offline FF was going to 360. I thought the way Live was set up (especially the voice chat and billing) would be such a large impediment to PlayOnline that we'd never see SE's online games on 360. It does make sense though; with the discontinuation of the original PS2 and hard drive, SE needed somewhere to go both for existing users needing to replace a PS2 and new users. I'm sure PlayOnline titles will show up on PS3 eventually once Sony's online stuff is unveiled.
Still, I'm curious as to how SE is going to integrate PlayOnline with Live. They both serve basically the same purpose, and supposedly MS requires 360 games to support all the Live stuff. Definitely not looking forward to voice chat in XI. It works for some games, but MMOs with pickup parties? {No thanks}
And PS2 vs. PC? What kind of rig do you have Alex? Seriously, FFXI running on a decent PC makes the PS2 version look like absolute shit. I own both and almost never play the PS2 game because it's so damn ugly. One of my friends used to run it on a high-end rig outputting to his 42" DLP TV, and the game looked fabulous. It's still a pretty game (although that's more due to art than anything).
I think the Live stuff will be disabled when you launch PlayOnline I think.
Unless MS and SE are really serious. In which case, if Sony doesn't come out with an online plan, I hope MS and SE do some kind of intergration between the 2 systems.
I doubt it though. I think it'll just be launching into POL which will disable live.
Unless MS and SE are really serious. In which case, if Sony doesn't come out with an online plan, I hope MS and SE do some kind of intergration between the 2 systems.
I doubt it though. I think it'll just be launching into POL which will disable live.
Alex
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FFXI is an absolute artistic wonder, to be frank. It's probably the most inspired looking Square Enix game in existance, IMO. Especially some of the Promathia stuff, Jesus some of it's more detailed than FFXII.
Anyhow, due to that I question the cost of them doing any serious remodeling or recapturing special effects and whatnot. But I don't think even SE is as lazy to just dump a PC port without perhaps bumping up some textures, water effects and lighting, even moreso considering the game was probably their prime bread winner this gen.
Shouta; that mostly has to do with the obvious I stated, hehe. Resolution and anti-aliasing hikes are a given. Armor never seemed to look quite as right on the PC version to me though, hmm.
Anyhow, I'm REALLY curious how this'll all turn out. I'm just a disturbed enough indivudal to buy a 360 for a chance at new life breathed into FFXI.
Anyhow, due to that I question the cost of them doing any serious remodeling or recapturing special effects and whatnot. But I don't think even SE is as lazy to just dump a PC port without perhaps bumping up some textures, water effects and lighting, even moreso considering the game was probably their prime bread winner this gen.
Shouta; that mostly has to do with the obvious I stated, hehe. Resolution and anti-aliasing hikes are a given. Armor never seemed to look quite as right on the PC version to me though, hmm.
Anyhow, I'm REALLY curious how this'll all turn out. I'm just a disturbed enough indivudal to buy a 360 for a chance at new life breathed into FFXI.