Again: I'm almost 100% sure no ship comes with a parasite in the PU. Buy a ship with a hangar, then maybe buy whatever parasite you like and fit it. Large ships coming with parasites is almost certainly just a pledge/ concept thing. And I believe the Carrack in particular won't be used the way it was supposed to in the PU anyway, so the "default" parasite might make no sense in the real world.
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Star Citizen Pre-Alpha: 'Arena Commander' Dogfighting
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I feel like every week we have the same discussion abput gimballed weapons, with every time the same points brought and eventually spiraling down in another SC vs. Elite discussion. I think we just have to wait for more updates and a broader range of gameplay available with more varied ships. Star Citizen is so much more than closely packed dogfighting arenas.
That is all SC is, as it currently stands. This of course informs the discourse around these issues.
Teknopathetic
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" I think we just have to wait for more updates and a broader range of gameplay available with more varied ships."
That will not solve such an core gameplay problem. Telling people to ignore it will not make the control problems go away. More varied gameplay will not help, if anything, it comes off as saying "Well, just wait and play space trucker, then the control problem doesn't matter!"
That will not solve such an core gameplay problem. Telling people to ignore it will not make the control problems go away. More varied gameplay will not help, if anything, it comes off as saying "Well, just wait and play space trucker, then the control problem doesn't matter!"
staticneuron
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Y'know what, good point. It seemed like to me, especially because of the recent design changes to the constellation and the docking bay, that some variants would come with certain elements packaged not simply because of the pledge. And also the lore even on merlins page...
Merlin intro said:
So the Taurus doesn't come with one, so it seemed like a package purchase for the variant. The idea that Equipment such as rovers or ships that come with specific variants do not sound far fetched especially if they are integrated into design of ships that serve specific purposes.
So purchasing a Merlin to add onto a Variant that doesn't supposedly come with one makes sense (like Taurus) but not for a ship that supposedly will have a packaged vehicle (snub or rover).
Unless you are privy to some official statement that states variants will be sold minus the additional equipment that makes them variants to begin with.
A few pages ago (maybe more) someone posted a youtube video series that focuses on the lore and in game history.
Sorry for not going through this thread and looking myself.
EDIT: found it. here it is if you guys want to watch it.
I quite like it so far.
I'm not saying we should ignore the issue, because the arguments at hand are valid complaints. However, I feel like we are beating a dead horse with the discussion we're having now. I'm reserving my judgement on the system until AC 2.0 to see if they changed things around.
On the issue itself, I think it will always be hard to balance the wide range of control options on each other. My take would be that for competitive play like Arena Commander dogfighting style in the final game, you could have multiple rankings where only one type of control option is allowed. Seems to be the most fair way at this time.
I recall seeing something on the SC reddit some months ago about the Andromeda (the original model) not coming with a P52 by default in the PU. Think it was a forum dev post. Doubt I'll find it now but I'll try to track it down
I have a feeling that the reason CIG is so reluctant to change their gimbal system is that they're betting their horses on the proliferation of VR once the Rift and the Vive are released. Track-ir is a bit iffy, but I've heard very good things about Rift controlled gimbals (some people think it beats M&K) and CIG is probably waiting for that to see how widespread the use of VR is before making too many big design decisions regarding it.
I mean, head-controlled weapons sounds awesome, and it's the main reason I hope they don't get rid of gimbaled weapons.
Dubbedinenglish
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The reason it's important even now is the stage of game development. This isn't a complaint like damage values or features, it is a core gameplay mechanic. It needs to be voiced and resolved before S42 at least. So far we don't even have a clear message from CIG on what the plan or target is. With an *alleged* time frame of end of year for S42 its is a cause for great concern. S42 performance is also meant to impact your standing in the PU so it matters in the near and long term.
See I don't mind have the gimbaled weapons, as long as they do not control flight. Currently with IM it would be like the ship following your head movements with OR, which would be disorienting to say the least.
Then you have problems whereby those with VR have even greater advantages than those without.
Apparently movement following head motion, is used quite naturally on some VR games.
Mister_Bubbles
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staticneuron
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You're doing good work, Shy! Providing some actual interesting Star Citizen content within a maelstrom of boring cyclical gimbal discussions
lol, Indeed. Thank you for the link Shy!
You're doing good work, Shy! Providing some actual interesting Star Citizen content within a maelstrom of boring cyclical gimbal discussions
Thanks a lot guys.
Whoa! This game looks crazy good at 4K. Runs at low 50s for the most part, with some dips to mid 40s. Quite a bit of shader aliasing too, which I guess will be fixed. Hope I'd be able to play SQ42 at 4K60 with optimization (or max settings in VR). But yeah, the youtube videos don't do justice to the level of detail and texture quality. Simply stunning, especially for such an early build!
I dont think so, at least not on the max setting. Max settings will be future proof even for 2x titans.
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It was talked about and brought up a lot.
Dictator93
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Whoa! This game looks crazy good at 4K. Runs at low 50s for the most part, with some dips to mid 40s. Quite a bit of shader aliasing too, which I guess will be fixed. Hope I'd be able to play SQ42 at 4K60 with optimization (or max settings in VR). But yeah, the youtube videos don't do justice to the level of detail and texture quality. Simply stunning, especially for such an early build!
After having played the game in 1080p for so long I can only agree that its texture and model quality are prime for 4K and higher.
Can you load up the training module? I do not have the free version, so I don't know. That runs the worst / has the best lighting.
Dictator93
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I think you could end up managing 30 fps with some PPAA in the final game. But I generally expect the highest settings to get heavier and heavier over time.
Hmm... I'd probably settle for 1620p or 1440p with good AA. Wonder what I'd be able to get out of it in VR. Hope they fully utilize Gameworks VR.
Is that friend of a friend knowledgeable in the games industry? Are you yourself? Maybe he claimed something at the dinner table and it falsely spread around.
Dictator93
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The edit yo.
yea wtf
Dictator93
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I think that speaks he validity of the claim.
This game is supporting tons of stuff, I would imagine they will )they already, according to AMD, implemented single eye SFR on Mantle).
He must be on to something and has been silenced by Chris Roberts himself. We must find out more!
Mister_Bubbles
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... Alright! Let's get the wild speculation mill started!
If true, I wonder how that work vacuum will be filled. I know that RSI had sent some of their own engineers in to help out with the FPS, but axing an entire studio? That kind of move would surely only be made if there was some kind of replacement strategy in mind.
If true, I wonder how that work vacuum will be filled. I know that RSI had sent some of their own engineers in to help out with the FPS, but axing an entire studio? That kind of move would surely only be made if there was some kind of replacement strategy in mind.
It seems like they are closer with AMD than Nvidia though? Wonder what that means for VR optimizations.
I'd assume AMD would want them to be a test case for LiquidVR.
However on the whole, despite promotional deals with AMD the game seems to be fairly agnostic to all hardware.
Dictator93
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This just in, my source (whose face has been distorted for protecting his/her identity) says that the game has been canceled.
and I quote "Sorry suckers, the latest Porsche model is just too cool."
and I quote "Sorry suckers, the latest Porsche model is just too cool."
This just in, my source (whose face has been distorted for protecting his/her identity) says that the game has been canceled.
and I quote "Sorry suckers, the latest Porsche model is just too cool."
Repair Bears told me that he is lying.
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EW and managing systems can be really deep, just look at EVE's EW and systems. Its definitely not 1-2 touch thing.
And what are those sims You are talking about? You still havent mentioned even one title.
Dictator93
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THE SKY IS FALLING
staticneuron
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Geeze so sensationalist. The neglected to mention that CR did the good deed of hiring them back to valet his newly acquired porches and ferraris.
So this is what was interpreted as CIG firing Illfonic?! LOL. Rumors, how do they work?
And? What was the conclusion? I'd be happy if you could point me to any posts, where the benefits of or arguments against implementing such a system in Star Citizen had been discussed.
Derek Smart was right AGAIN.
No wonder his mmo is such a piece of shit. He spends all his time researching.
Such spin there. Let 3 people go because project is almost completed and winding down -> firing studio and starting over because project failed.
Still trying to form those associations to leech attention.
Zalusithix
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I guess we can look forward to this sort of stuff more as SC gets closer to release. Instead of "Star Citizen nears completion!", we'll see "Massive layoffs at studios working on Star Citizen!". Not to say that it doesn't suck for those that'll end up having to look for new work, but it's not exactly something unique in the industry. There's no way they can keep the current work force in perpetuity, so letting people go is just a sad reality of the situation.
Edit: Minor update made to the roster sheet to correct some logic. Not worth a new post, but I figure I'll bring it up just the same. I forgot to flag the vlookup ranges as not being sorted which was causing the manufacturer and role counts to be a bit messed up. Everything else was fine (or at least should be).
Dictator93
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I swear though SC gets this kind of press more than other games due to its "rebel" like status in the industry. The idea of this game being succesful, producing, and generally just being what it is makes a lot of people rather upset I think...
It is a good thing that SC employs a lot of external contractors. Frankly, the game business would be better off following the Movie business, where companies are temporarily formed for individual projects and then disbanded once the film is done. It would also require some sort of union as free agents would have fewer opportunities for negotiation.
Cabbagehead
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CR did already speak about that guy at gamescom and made it pretty clear without using certain words that. DS should mind his own business and that he's a no talent cunt with a bunch of shit games to his name.
Which got under DS skin pretty mightily.
I must've missed that, thanks. Well, that escalated quickly.
Hi guys.
So here's another lore/timeline video. however this one is 7 minutes long. This video take a bullet point approach, rather than acting out eatch entry. (but no information is lost)
So here's another lore/timeline video. however this one is 7 minutes long. This video take a bullet point approach, rather than acting out eatch entry. (but no information is lost)
Please tell there's a link to that.
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