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Star Citizen Pre-Alpha: 'Arena Commander' Dogfighting
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Yah, you can get one of the starter packages for $45 which includes a ship/arena commander/etc
Ephemeris
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I thought those came with the beta and not the Alpha now
Only one?! :]I could use a deck hand on my 890
This made me laugh. It's become a tradition.
There is an Arena Commander pass that you can buy for $5 or there are packages (Aurora MR) for $45 that include it.
It's not a blanket Alpha like offered before, but still gives you access to the alpha components.
Ah fudge I type too slow at work.
MasterOfPastures
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You're going to have to find a quote for that, because I don't remember him ever saying that it was not going to be like freelancer. A PC game, worthy of the Master Race, with full usage of power and limitless ambition, and a plethora of control options (M+KB, Joystick, pad, etc.), and with nods to Wingcommader, but never explicitly saying that it was not having anything from FL. And consider that most people only probably played Freelancer, or Starlancer.
The shitty dead zone and weird wobbling with mouse is a result of their IFCS trying to predict and assist the pilot with the movement of the ship due to the realistic physics and thruster model. Indeed, fixed guns are a pain to play with mouse. But it's not autopilot by far with COMSTAB and mouse. It just changes the dynamic since you now have to be very aware of your sliding and possible stops you might cause because of your vecotring going too off your main direction speed.
Good luck playing FPS module on the HOTAS
Tons of people wont be even touching joysticks, like me.
Dictator93
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Good luck playing FPS module on the HOTAS
Tons of people wont be even touching joysticks, like me.
Hey! My HOTAS has a mouse ability!
Good luck playing FPS module on the HOTAS
Tons of people wont be even touching joysticks, like me.
You obviously don't know what you're missing, otherwise you'd repent and fly like you were meant to fly. Goddamn mouse + kb / joypad space sim peasants, ruining it for the rest of us.
Dictator93
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After siwtching to a HOTAS, I cannot imagine flying a ship any other way.
Seriously, it feels that much more immersive and 1:1.
I know, i played on joystick some flight games in the past, it just doesnt appeal to me in the long run.
Same goes for wheels in car games, like i bought G25 for Gran Turismo 5 and it was fun, especially in rally mode, but in the long run i didnt like it as much as i wanted and i enjoyed playing on the sixaxis more.
Doesnt mean of course that others should follow me or that i know better, just my personal preference
TrackIR on the other hand? Oh boy, cant wait when i'll get it
MasterOfPastures
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Even the highest Lord has a base-born milk-maid to warm his bed on the side. This one is mine.
I know, i played on joystick some flight games in the past, it just doesnt appeal to me in the long run.
Same goes for wheels in car games, like i bought G25 for Gran Turismo 5 and it was fun, especially in rally mode, but in the long run i didnt like it as much as i wanted and i enjoyed playing on the sixaxis more.
Doesnt mean of course that other should follow me or that i know better, just my personal preference
TrackIR on the other hand? Oh boy, cant wait when i'll get it
Whatever, you'll be forced to join the HOTAS club when the CV of the Rift gets released anyway.
Whatever, you'll be forced to join the HOTAS club when the CV of the Rift gets released anyway.
Nah
, i'll just play with mouse and keyboard and i think we need a lot of time to start to use Rift or VR in general for a longer period of times. I'm thinking about VR as more like immersive tool for some few session, not as a primary display device.Archaeopteryx
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So what would be the best HOTAS? Preferably under $200. I need to get one later this year for this game.
Avenger is a police vehicle. The Hornet is the previous century's Hornet ... it's been in service for at least a couple hundred years.
[edit] The Hornet brochure says on Page 11, "Two hundred years of combat experience . . . ... have molded the interface between pilot and Hornet. The F7C features an array of Shiel monitors, each with a customizable interface to provide fast, accurate data to the operator in the way that you want them, when you need them. As soon as you step into the cockpit, you recognize why the Hornet can handle any kind of environment, any kind of deployment. You will be part of the tradition that has carried Humanity with ... . . . confidence throughout the universe."
Saitek X-55 Rhino (199$) is what most people will recommend you, and they'd be right to. However, since you'll be buying for Star Citizen specifically, you should know that CIG and Saitek are currently working on a SC HOTAS, which unfortunately won't be released for another 12 months, maybe more. My uneducated guess is that it'll be largly based on X-55's design & tech, but it could also be a completely new HOTAS for all we know. Knowing Saitek and how long it took them to get from the X-52 to the X-55, I kinda doubt it, but since Chris Roberts is involved, who knows.
2019 then?
and you'll somehow wind up paying $1000 for it while you're waiting
I find your lack of faith in the Roberts rather disturbing.
Honey Bunny
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Well I finally jumped in with an Aurora package. I told myself I wouldn't buy an expensive ship before the full game releases, and I'll stick to that. But I never said anything about hangars. And that VFG Industrial hangar sure is pretty.
CyberPunked
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And there were doubts
MasterOfPastures
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And there were doubts
And this is just the prtotype. You can expect smoother framerates and transitions, more exploration options, and slightly better graphics. They now need to steamroll ahead with content.
kutthoat5150
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And there were doubts
liked how they teased that mustang fly-by when he first glanced up at the sky
SneakyStephan
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Holy shit what the fucking what those graphics.
Fuzzification
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The weird side-to-side rocking motion really bugs me. Why would someone do that with their own head, if this were Oculus Rift tracking? If they were using a mouse or joystick it would make even less sense, unless the keyboard includes rocking buttons, or unless it's a canned animation you have to wait on while getting out of a vehicle.And there were doubts
Speaking of which, it would be awesome if they let you have futuristic gravity boots or something and just jump out of your craft, instead of waiting on slow exit or ladder animations.
It's the same issue that been around for a long time, the camera is attached to the character's animations. Mocap stuff can need a lot of cleaning and thus far CIGs animators haven't really done a good job with the character animations.
Forget about that, I wish the Shubin Station set of missions was. That's where the real epic will take place. Fuck the PU, gimme that S42.
Chance Hale
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What's the cheapest ship that lets you eject? I want to get hit by a ship. Neither Aurora or AMD ship seem to let you.
Edit: Well, the AMD ship doesn't seem to be flyable yet so of course not When is that happening?
Edit: Well, the AMD ship doesn't seem to be flyable yet so of course not
When is that happening?What's the cheapest ship that lets you eject? I want to get hit by a ship. Neither Aurora or AMD ship seem to let you.
Edit: Well, the AMD ship doesn't seem to be flyable yet so of course not
Soon
I think the 300i might let you eject. I know the Hornet does. Those would be the cheapest.
Archaeopteryx
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I can confirm the 300i has eject as well.
Anyone know when they're going to get the other two 300i variants in game (315p and 325a)? They just put in the 350r and updated the look of the 325a so I was hoping it would be added soon.
Once upon a time PC game development did not target the lowest common denominator, then throw in a couple of high end options (e.g. tessellation on/off). It targeted the highest, then scaled down to run on lesser hardware.
Welcome to that time.
Finally went ahead and got me a starter HOTAS setup (Thrustmaster T-Flight, yea i'm cheap/poor like that) but I'm having a seriously hard time adjusting. Haven't played games with a joystick for ages. In fact, my old one was a MS force feedback one, which still had a gameport connector. No drivers, no nothing, so had to get something to replace it on a budget.
Any tips for flying or setting up the HOTAS? I've tried some custom setups from the forums but they're not really doing it for me. Strangely enough the default works for me for racing, but really sucks in combat mode. Found some setups that worked for combat, but then I got creamed in racing.. I'm so confused!
Currently resorting to replaying my old copies of Tie Fighter and the sequels just to get the feel back. Good space-sim tips are quite welcome as well actually.
Any tips for flying or setting up the HOTAS? I've tried some custom setups from the forums but they're not really doing it for me. Strangely enough the default works for me for racing, but really sucks in combat mode. Found some setups that worked for combat, but then I got creamed in racing.. I'm so confused!
Currently resorting to replaying my old copies of Tie Fighter and the sequels just to get the feel back. Good space-sim tips are quite welcome as well actually.
They said on Around the Verse yesterday that the 325a would be added today.
Archaeopteryx
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Fantastic! Means I have something to look forward to when I get home Sunday. Thanks!
kutthoat5150
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taken from reddit
http://i.imgur.com/KwQehsM.jpg
valid knock against CIG is that pretty much the industry in general?
I remember this was the bearded guy who always looked pissed during his interviews who walked off wingmans hangar
http://i.imgur.com/KwQehsM.jpg
valid knock against CIG is that pretty much the industry in general?
I remember this was the bearded guy who always looked pissed during his interviews who walked off wingmans hangar
Even 60-hour workweeks are crazy to me, 70-80 regularly seems ridiculously inhuman.
So it seems that Chris Olivia, who has been chief visual officer since January 2013, is no longer with the company: https://www.linkedin.com/profile/vi...arId:1413134209290,tas:chris olivia,idx:1-2-2
Martin Galloway, the audio director, isn't at CIG anymore, either: https://www.linkedin.com/pub/martin-galway/1/69b/727
And there are rumblings that Eric "Wingman" Peterson as well as several other Austin devs have been let go: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.c...ayoffsfirings-at-the-Austin-studio-today.html
I'm legit shook by all this.
Martin Galloway, the audio director, isn't at CIG anymore, either: https://www.linkedin.com/pub/martin-galway/1/69b/727
And there are rumblings that Eric "Wingman" Peterson as well as several other Austin devs have been let go: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.c...ayoffsfirings-at-the-Austin-studio-today.html
I'm legit shook by all this.
MasterOfPastures
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Well, it's a balance between what the public wants and what they promised. I can definitely see the ridiculous hours happening when the entire company was just 70 people (a year ago). Now that they are 280, the bandwidth should be better. Still, more than any other company, they have the fans breathing behind their necks to deliver and ship content.
I'm hoping that conditions get better in time. But in this industry, that is nearly impossible.
kutthoat5150
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wingman is very much alive and truckin at CIG
https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/189154
surprised about the others though since I remember their sound director being there since the beginning
https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/189154
surprised about the others though since I remember their sound director being there since the beginning
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