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[GurgleBot20]

I am trying to search my memory to remember if Q showed up in other series... like DS9 or Voyager

please reply with a spoiler tag if you need to... I don't mind I've seen this shows before but my memory is bad

Spoiler

He gets punched by Sisko in DS9, and loses his powers in Voyager IIRC, that's all I remember though

 

[B_Rik_Schitthaus]

I am trying to search my memory to remember if Q showed up in other series... like DS9 or Voyager

please reply with a spoiler tag if you need to... I don't mind I've seen this shows before but my memory is bad

Spoiler

Sisko punches him out of DS9

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Spoiler

He gets punched by Sisko in DS9, and loses his powers in Voyager IIRC, that's all I remember though

thanks I knew I remembered something like that lol

 

[DustinC]

Q was a mixed bag for me. With one exception

Spoiler

(The Finale)

, the problem was that the character got progressively more goofy for me, where in the first episode he came of as threatening.




Love the card game, got nearly every card from the first few sets. Think I stopped after the "Q Continuum" expansion, but a friend and I played it all the time. Hobby shop near us was clearing out the Alternate Universe set one time for $.25 a pack, so we bought three boxes (I bought 1, he bought 2). Friend was very angry when I got a Future Enterprise card in my set and he didn't. Ended up trading the card for that collectors tin of the first set with the silver boarder of every card.

Ah, the FE remained one of the best ships in the game, it had ridiculous movement range. I played pretty much up until they did 2nd edition. Fav sets were the Trouble with Tribbles (featuring both DS9 and Original crew) and Mirror Mirror sets.

Enterprise and Voyager are still not working on my PS3, while the other series work just fine. Is anyone else having the same problem?

Same problem here. When I select them it gives me the sidebar, but just shows the loading animation and never brings up the episode list. Option to add to queue doesn't come up either.

 

[hiryu2015]

I've been through the first three eps of TOS so far, digging the HD remastering.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

I've been through the first three eps of TOS so far, digging the HD remastering.

are they widescreen?

I wish TNG was widescreen so spoiled these days

 

[Escape Goat]

Q was a mixed bag for me. With one exception

Spoiler

(The Finale)

, the problem was that the character got progressively more goofy for me, where in the first episode he came of as threatening.




Love the card game, got nearly every card from the first few sets. Think I stopped after the "Q Continuum" expansion, but a friend and I played it all the time. Hobby shop near us was clearing out the Alternate Universe set one time for $.25 a pack, so we bought three boxes (I bought 1, he bought 2). Friend was very angry when I got a Future Enterprise card in my set and he didn't. Ended up trading the card for that collectors tin of the first set with the silver boarder of every card.

how threatening can you make a character when they are omnipotent? there would be no conflict and thus no story. they spent that nickel on the finale. Q was antagonistic but never malicious which is why I think he endured throughout TNG.

 

[Shurs]

are they widescreen?

Nope.

 

[bengraven]

Oh wow, Enemy Within was written by Richard Matheson.

 

[methos75]

Anyone get Voyager to play, it refuses to load up for me

 

[bengraven]

I can't get part 2 of the Menagerie. It says it's both part 1 and 2, but at the end of the episode it says to be continued? Then the next episode is "Concious of the King".

 

[ckohler]

I am trying to search my memory to remember if Q showed up in other series... like DS9 or Voyager

please reply with a spoiler tag if you need to... I don't mind I've seen this shows before but my memory is bad

Voyager has at least three Q related episodes. I'd even venture to say that Voyager went further to explain the Q more than in any previous series. In fact, the crew actually

Spoiler

visits the Q continuum

, twice!

 

[Morts]

Anyone get Voyager to play, it refuses to load up for me

It'll play in a web browser for me but not on PS3.

 

[DrForester]

Voyager has at least three Q related episodes. I'd even venture to say that Voyager went further to explain the Q more than in any previous series. In fact, the crew actually

Spoiler

visits the Q continuum

, twice!

Doesn't make it a good thing. Q was neutered comic relief by that point. Sometimes you don't need to explain things in detail.

Worf's 1 line explanation in Deep Space Nine why TOS Klingons don't have head ridges is 1000X better than the 3 episode explanation they did in Enterprise.

 

[B_Rik_Schitthaus]

Doesn't make it a good thing. Q was neutered comic relief by that point. Sometimes you don't need to explain things in detail.

Worf's 1 line explanation in Deep Space Nine why TOS Klingons don't have head ridges is 1000X better than the 3 episode explanation they did in Enterprise.

I always just wished that the 2 types of Klingons were just subspecies that lived on the same planet until the ridges just genocided the TOS type.

 

[ckohler]

Doesn't make it a good thing. Q was neutered comic relief by that point. Sometimes you don't need to explain things in detail.

Bah. I liked it. I wanted more details about them and those episodes delivered.

 

[Fjordson]

Watching "Enemy Within".

So this is where we get:

Also, I lolled:

Sulu: "that's NIPpy".

I lolled again.

Haha, that was a good episode. Finished it last night.

"Heya..Captain? You got a long...rope...to lower down some coffee with? Some rice wine would do if you're out of coffee."

 

[Escape Goat]

Haha, that was a good episode. Finished it last night.

"Heya..Captain? You got a long...rope...to lower down some coffee with? Some rice wine would do if you're out of coffee."

I giggled at the men huddled under the blanket with Sulu. Naughty!

 

[Therion]

My biggest gripe with S1 of TNG has been Wesley Crusher being stuffed into so many of the plots. I know it's kind of popular to hate on the character anyways, but I never knew how much focus was put on him early on. The ep that has Picard violating the Prime Directive to save him was pretty awful, and now having watched Coming of Age I think I've hit my max tolerance level for him.

I prefer the director's cut of that episode.

 

[bengraven]

I giggled at the men huddled under the blanket with Sulu. Naughty!

oh my

 

[The Librarian]

I've never watched Star Trek, so I'll be trying my best to finally watch this legendary series. I'll be following your list, OP!

You'll be missing a lot of the other good stuff in TNG and DS9 if you only watch the episodes in the OP. The payoff will be better if you strap yourself in for the long haul. Especially DS9.

 

[elrechazado]

someone explain to me in the show's internal logic (tng) why the hell there is a transporter room, when they can transport anyone from anywhere to anywhere else? Why do they walk to the damn room all the time and transport from there and arrive there, but whenever it's plot convenient, they just transport directly to and from wherever they want?

 

[BattleMonkey]

someone explain to me in the show's internal logic (tng) why the hell there is a transporter room, when they can transport anyone from anywhere to anywhere else? Why do they walk to the damn room all the time and transport from there and arrive there, but whenever it's plot convenient, they just transport directly to and from wherever they want?

Waste of energy... lol? But yea its not so much of a problem until you get to constant situations in episodes where the crew has to get somewhere quick. In DS9 for example we see that they will do emergency medical transports for doctor and patients, yet when the station is in trouble like someone is getting away or they have to get somewhere, they run instead of having someone just beam them to where they have to be.

I can see there being a conflict of having crew constantly beaming around the ship, but in many situations the plot often forgets that crew can simply beam to a spot instantly.

 

[androvsky]

someone explain to me in the show's internal logic (tng) why the hell there is a transporter room, when they can transport anyone from anywhere to anywhere else? Why do they walk to the damn room all the time and transport from there and arrive there, but whenever it's plot convenient, they just transport directly to and from wherever they want?

I think they've said in some episodes it's more reliable to use the transporter pads, and I think I'd be all for all the extra reliability you can get if there's not an emergency. But if they're desperate, they do the point-to-point transport.

 

[elrechazado]

I think they've said in some episodes it's more reliable to use the transporter pads, and I think I'd be all for all the extra reliability you can get if there's not an emergency. But if they're desperate, they do the point-to-point transport.

They do it in non deperate situations all the time though.

 

[BattleMonkey]

I think they've said in some episodes it's more reliable to use the transporter pads, and I think I'd be all for all the extra reliability you can get if there's not an emergency. But if they're desperate, they do the point-to-point transport.

But they also had an episode where they made a point of how there has been only a handful of transporter accidents in decades and all the safety redundancies they have in place to prevent any loss of life.

 

[Escape Goat]

someone explain to me in the show's internal logic (tng) why the hell there is a transporter room, when they can transport anyone from anywhere to anywhere else? Why do they walk to the damn room all the time and transport from there and arrive there, but whenever it's plot convenient, they just transport directly to and from wherever they want?

I think the risk of accident increases. Especially when you and the target site are moving at different speeds. The pad acts like a bridge.

 

[teiresias]

Me and some friends of mine were convinced after the first few weeks of Voyager being on the air that Paris and Kim were being set up as having some kind of gay relationship, simply because of the way the characters interacted and some of the acting choices made during some of these scenes. Obviously, that didn't happen - would have made the show far more interesting though. They could have gone on double dates with a Seven and B'elanna coupling later in the series.

Season 1 of TNG isn't that bad, I just think they were trying too hard to mimic TOS. The whole season feels completely different to the other seasons and it wasn't until season 2 they finally started to find their own direction. Of course seasons 3-5 are about as good as trek gets.

Well, that's no coincidence since Season 1 of TNG (and maybe some of Season 2) consisted of a great deal of reworked scripts that had originally been written for the Star Trek: Phase 2 series before it was abandoned to make the first movie.

someone explain to me in the show's internal logic (tng) why the hell there is a transporter room, when they can transport anyone from anywhere to anywhere else? Why do they walk to the damn room all the time and transport from there and arrive there, but whenever it's plot convenient, they just transport directly to and from wherever they want?

Technically speaking, I'd assume even with a point-to-point transport, the process still has to pass through the pattern-buffer (which may or may not actually be near the transporter room itself, I don't have my TNG technical manual with me to see). So going from spot A to B on a planet really means what's happening is your going from A, up to the pattern buffer on the ship, then back down to spot B rather than an actual direct movement. So, one could surmise that, when possible, going through the pads is simply safer because you have a more direct feed to the pattern buffer using the pads.

 

[TheFatOne]

Haha, that was a good episode. Finished it last night.

"Heya..Captain? You got a long...rope...to lower down some coffee with? Some rice wine would do if you're out of coffee."

I just finished this episode and I couldn't stop laughing. The first three episodes on the list have been great. I'm starting to understand why so many people enjoy the series.

 

[Mariah Carey]

I don't see this up on my netflix?

 

[DrForester]

I think you'll notice more "quality" episodes in the TNG and TOS lists I made. Because the late series had more ongoing stories, their lists tend to have episodes (especially DS9) that are good, but are more about filling in the on going story gaps than showcasing the show at it's very best.

 

[cheststrongwell]

You'll be missing a lot of the other good stuff in TNG and DS9 if you only watch the episodes in the OP. The payoff will be better if you strap yourself in for the long haul. Especially DS9.

Yeah, not watching season 1 of TNG will fuck up a pretty cool twist/cliffhanger later on. Season 1 isn't god awful, just not as good as the rest of the show.

 

[The Big Rig]

I just started watching Where No Man Has Gone Before, and they're using CG space scenes I'm assuming made in the 90's. Look, they already have the orchestration and the acting of a 60's show. Leave the CGI editing to Lucas.

 

[bengraven]

Anyone able to watch Menagerie part 2?

Anyone?

I think you'll notice more "quality" episodes in the TNG and TOS lists I made. Because the late series had more ongoing stories, their lists tend to have episodes (especially DS9) that are good, but are more about filling in the on going story gaps than showcasing the show at it's very best.

We still need more TOS. I know it's old people, but I love this shit. I want to know if there are good/notable episodes NOT on the list.

I just started watching Where No Man Has Gone Before, and they're using CG space scenes I'm assuming made in the 90's. Look, they already have the orchestration and the acting of a 60's show. Leave the CGI editing to Lucas.

They purposely went minimalistic. It looks nice and clean but not cheap and yet not film quality. Just right without being distracting. I fucking adore the special effects in this "Special Edition".

 

[DrForester]

I just started watching Where No Man Has Gone Before, and they're using CG space scenes I'm assuming made in the 90's. Look, they already have the orchestration and the acting of a 60's show. Leave the CGI editing to Lucas.

Those are the HD remasters done a few years ago. While not on the netlfix streaming, the Blu-Ray sets give you the choice to watch the original or the remasters. The Trek remasters are considered to be the perfect example of how to do a remaster and update right. They also updated backgrounds, live shot sfx, and rescored the soundtrack so they had a stero source and not the original mono track.

Unlike Lucas, they don't pretend the originals don't exist. They did the job right.

We still need more TOS. I know it's old people, but I love this shit. I want to know if there are good/notable episodes NOT on the list.

There are other good ones, but I easily stand by those ones on the list being the very best ones.

 

[bengraven]

Those are the HD remasters done a few years ago. While not on the netlfix streaming, the Blu-Ray sets give you the choice to watch the original or the remasters. The Trek remasters are considered to be the perfect example of how to do a remaster and update right. They also updated backgrounds, live shot sfx, and rescored the soundtrack so they had a stero source and not the original mono track.

Unlike Lucas, they don't pretend the originals don't exist. They did the job right.

I'm glad I'm not the only one to really like the visuals.

Also, an example:

When I saw that landscape in Amok Time, I didn't know if it was from the new series or added later. Same with some background shots from Menagerie part 1. And they look GOOD. That's the goal of a great special FX house: you don't know it's state-of-the-art tech.

There are other good ones, but I easily stand by those ones on the list being the very best ones.

Fair enough...I probably will be watching all of TOS in the next month or two anyway.

 

[Ohwiseone]

I was going through Voyager Episodes ( I know, I know, But it is what I grew up watching).

Is it just me or did they use Time Travel ALOT in the series, my god, it seemed like twice a season.

Though I will say "Shattered" In Season 7 Is pretty damn good, I enjoyed going back and seeing different events throughout the series.

 

[DrForester]

I was going through Voyager Episodes ( I know, I know, But it is what I grew up watching).

Is it just me or did they use Time Travel ALOT in the series, my god, it seemed like twice a season.

Though I will say "Shattered" In Season 7 Is pretty damn good, I enjoyed going back and seeing different events throughout the series.

Not really any more than the other series.

http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Time_travel_episodes

Fair enough...I probably will be watching all of TOS in the next month or two anyway.

Don't get me wrong, like I said in the OP, anyone who likes what they see should just watch everything since it's free. The episodes in my watch list are almost all in chronological order (or very close when I moved things to accommodate 2 parter episodes)

 

[The Big Rig]

No Man Has Gone Before was really awesome. I can see the whole philosophy and morality play thing people talk about with TOS. Watching The Enemy Within Now.

Oh, shit. He's got some Brandy.

 

[TheFatOne]

I just finished watching The Menagerie: Part 1+Part 2 on netflix, and I have two questions.

Spoiler

Why do people immediately go down when Spock touches them in the shoulder. Also on Netflix it says The Menagerie: Part 1+Part 2 but I believe it's missing the second part because it ends rather abruptly.

 

[bengraven]

No Man Has Gone Before was really awesome. I can see the whole philosophy and morality play thing people talk about with TOS. Watching The Enemy Within Now.

Oh, shit. He's got some Brandy.

Shatner acted the fuck out of that episode.

I swore he was going to burst a blood vessle in his head.

I just finished watching The Menagerie: Part 1+Part 2 on netflix, and I have two questions.

Spoiler

Why do people immediately go down when Spock touches them in the shoulder. Also on Netflix it says The Menagerie: Part 1+Part 2 but I believe it's missing the second part because it ends rather abruptly.

It says "to be continued". I know, I've asked this twice so far and no one knows. lol

 

[Xamdou]

Where exactly do you find the DS9 eps on netflix? I did a search but nothing came up.

 

[Escape Goat]

Where exactly do you find the DS9 eps on netflix? I did a search but nothing came up.

They won't be available until Sept or October.

 

[elrechazado]

Where exactly do you find the DS9 eps on netflix? I did a search but nothing came up.

Did you type "deep space nine"? I just did that and it came up....

 

[Anerythristic]

Excellent idea from the OP, though I just jumped right into Season 1 of TNG from excitment.

 

[TheFatOne]

It says "to be continued". I know, I've asked this twice so far and no one knows. lol

They have it on youtube. I would post the link, but I'm not sure if things like that are frowned upon on gaf.

 

[Shurs]

Where exactly do you find the DS9 eps on netflix? I did a search but nothing came up.

They're not available for streaming until October 1st.

 

[teiresias]

Did "The Cage" not get the remaster treatment or something? I was surprised to fire it up and not see enhanced FX shots. Not a big deal, I just thought it had gotten the treatment too.

 

[bengraven]

They have it on youtube. I would post the link, but I'm not sure if things like that are frowned upon on gaf.

Yeah, I saw that. I think I'll probably watch it there. I say if it's still up on Youtube after TWO years and no one took it down, GAF mods can't frown on you saying that.

Did "The Cage" not get the remaster treatment or something? I was surprised to fire it up and not see enhanced FX shots. Not a big deal, I just thought it had gotten the treatment too.

Check the end of Season 3. There are TWO other The Cages there.

I would also like to know the difference between the three. One is extended (the last one).

 

[bengraven]

Until they get Menagerie part 2 up, I'm going to start the series from Man Trap onward.

Love Kirk trolling McCoy in the intro with the "flowers". That look on his face is trollface.gif potential.