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Star Wars: The Force Awakens Final Trailer

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Y'know I was a little worried about Chewie's look after his appearance in Teaser #2, thinking his face looked strangely off as if he'd had plastic surgery. But his look in the final trailer is definitely on point and natural.
 
The problem with the Order 66 scene is that it's a bunch of tools we don't care about getting owned. I mean, up to that point, the Jedi as an order have been nothing but brainless, uptight stooges. It's not like any of the Jedi who died had any character development either.

I really can't get over the stupidity of the Jedi mindlessly using the clones that were created in mysterious circumstances, based on the genetic template of a dude who is fighting for the other side.
 
Toxi said:
The best thing you can say about Attack of the Clones is that at least it didn't have Chewbacca's dad whacking off to porn.
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Skux said:
I'm watching all the old lightsaber battles and the Ep 1 and 2 ones... are just terrible. There's no tension, the camera is dead still the entire time, and there's no sense that someone is getting the upper hand in the fight. It's just dudes wailing sticks at each other until someone uncharacteristically leaves themself wide open for a killing blow.
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Lol at Obi-wan lying on the ground like he doesn't care.

Lucas should really just make CG cartoons.
 
The Ewoks have never bothered me and I really liked their worship of C3PO. I love Jabba's palace and the sail barge. In fact, I love ROTJ.

ROTS is by far the best prequel, but it's so laden with shit I couldn't call it a good movie.
 
Back to the trailer, you know that one Knight of Ren thats holding what looks like a cricket bat, today i wondered if it was a nod to Simon Pegg in Shaun of the dead, or indeed if he's even the man behind the mask, as well as the other droid looking chrachter he plays. 2 parts for simon? Wouldnt put it past him

More than likely it's a raid actor though, and it may not be a cricket bat but a large sword.
 
Skux said:
Tickets locked in! Best thing about being in New Zealand is that I get to watch blockbusters before all you Americans :P

It actually releases on Thursday 17 December here, but I was too late to get good seats for opening day.

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The first show here in the US in Colorado is 7PM on December 17th.
 
Bobby Roberts said:
Unlimited Powaaaaah is definitely not a high.

The Order 66 montage
The wordless moment between Anakin & Padme
The Opera Scene
The Opening Assault
The Padme's Funeral/Vader's Birth montage

Granted, there's some really mediocre shit inbetween, but those moments feature solid filmmaking from Lucas, solid enough to make you remember he was the guy who helped edit The Godfather and made THX 1138.

Jedi's got:

The Space Battle
The Throne Room
The speeder bike chase

...and that's it, really. Jabba's Palace takes too goddamn long. The ewoks aren't good. The ground battle isn't good. Han Solo's character is neutered and kneecapped. Chewie is a punchline. Fisher's performance is almost as bad as Christensen's in Sith, and in the brother/sister reveal, she's actually WORSE than he is in that movie.

Williams' music elevates the throne room like crazy - that fight isn't as good as Empire. The music is better than the fight is.
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I would say the only scenes worth a damn in the ones you mentioned are the telepathic-ish moment with Anakin/Padme and the Opera scene. The rest leave me feeling very little.

There are also worst things than Ewoks in some of the sequences you picked from Sith.

The Jabba rescue is fun and visually arresting. With exception to the magnet droids and the Fett death I have no problems with it. It's a swashbuckling rescue ripped straight from a '40s pulp series with interesting characters and a Jedi Luke coming into his own.

Saying music elevates the duel scene isn't all that fair considering all the scenes you mentioned from ROTS are also sucking on Williams' teat. In fact it's kind of a moot point as it can be leveled at every scene bar one in the whole series.

At least in Jedi I know who all the characters are and their stakes in the actions. That goes a long way for me.
 
Another big problem with Revenge of the Sith just was that Lucas thought people would care about his Clone Wars series.
Making the first part of the movie even more jarring and messy for most people.
 
So, I watched the OT for the very first time a few days ago. Enjoyed it for what it was (especially the first one). What do people think about Darth Vader in general? Overall he seemed like a crappy villain to me, wasn't the one in charge and gets beaten by a kid who just found out how to use his powers. He didn't have this charm to him that other villains did have, I dunno. I can see that he is very iconic in the way that pretty much everyone knows him but as far as being a 'good' villain goes...don't think he was. Wasn't scared of him or locked in when he was on screen, just missing those stuff.
 
The fact that the wasn't a villain at the end and found his salvation made him quite the outstanding character at the time of the movies or even today if you just look at all the comic villains.
 
sphagnum said:
Yes, I don't know why people love it so much. It has a lot of creativity but it also just draaaags. Even as a kid I thought the structure was very boring. It's just a series of people showing up and failing until the actual fun part, the sarlacc.
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Jabba's palace is so wonderful because it showcases the criminal underbelly of the Star Wars universe, and It's a nice counter balance to the power structure of the Empire. Jabba himself being a gigantic space slug that everyone takes orders from is simply amazing in its own right. Everything is so slimy, alien, and gross. I simply love that entire scene. There's so many iconic moments from that sequence that I don't see how anyone could dislike it. :shrugs:

I also love RotJ as a whole. Jabba's Palace, the battle on Endor, the space battle above Endor, Luke confronting Vader and the emperor, etc. Shit, I even like the Ewoks. It's just a really great film overall. None of the prequels even come close to comparing to it.

But yeah, the special edition really shows how far off the wagon Lucas was going, and how he was on the way to destroying the prequels. As mentioned before, Episode 4 got the worst of it. That Han scene with Jabba is cringe-worthy.
 
PdotMichael said:
Another big problem with Revenge of the Sith just was that Lucas thought people would care about his Clone Wars series.
Making the first part of the movie even more jarring and messy for most people.
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I agree. It really doesn't help that Grievous is fucking wasted in that movie, and turned into nothing more than a punchline. What a great design wasted on a shitty movie.

TheDinoman said:
As mentioned earlier in this thread, if there's one change I like in the special edition of ROTJ, it was replacing Yub Nub with Victory Celebration at the end.

I dunno, it just feels more fulfilling and conclusive than a random ewok song.
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Except when they fly over Naboo and a fucking Gungan yells "Wesa Free!" I want to throw my remote at the television.
 
Attack of the Clones is the only one of the six movies, including the frustrating lows of Phantom Menace and Revenge of the Sith, that I very consciously couldn't stomach and had to force myself through over two or three sittings. It's just an outright bad movie that consistently bland and uninteresting.
 
Napalm_Frank said:
Phantom Menace gets too much hate in a reality where AOTC exists.

Jar Jar for me is ''fine''. He doesn't ruin the movie, he is just stupid. AOTC Anakin however is unbearable.
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It's not just Jar Jar, it's the story and every character in the film. Everyone is flat and boring, and the story makes no sense. It also doesn't help that Lucas made the entire film pointless, since very little carries over to the next film.

With that being said, I agree that AOTC is worse.

TheDinoman said:
Oh god lol. I mainly refering to the music itself. Those CG cities and shit stick out like a sore thumb so much.
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Yeah the music is good at least. ;-)
 
Mike Stoklasa of RLM fame brought a rather interesting point about Jar Jar...

http://slpmode.com/a-v-club-milwauk...etailed-and-very-late-takedowns-of-star-wars/

It’s hard for a lot of people to articulate why exactly they hated The Phantom Menace because it’s such a clusterfuck of a film, so they point to Jar Jar. In fact, you can make an argument that Jar Jar was the only thing you could understand clearly in the movie. He had some kind of motivation and a character arc. He was annoying, yes, but ironically, he was the most realistic and understandable thing in the film.
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Honestly, I definitely see what he means. In a film filled with so many passionless, dull, inhuman drones, Jar Jar is really one of the very few characters that has some sort of charisma and character to him. Doesn't mean he wasn't obnoxious of course, but still.
 
Here's how I rank the Star Wars films:

Empire > Star Wars >> Jedi >>> Sith > Phantom Menace >>>>>> Clones

Stuff from RotJ I liked:

- Jabba's palace scenes. The barge sequence dragged on though.
- Speeder bikes
- Death Star II space battle
- Throne room sequence

I don't know if that film actually had a middle though.

Stuff I like from RotS:

- Opera scene
- Anakin & Padme staring across Coruscant scene

Edit: Oh man, Carrie Fisher was so bad in RotJ. That scene where Luke reveals the sister stuff is just... really not good at all. The lines didn't help either. I wish Leia was never his sister, it makes everything extremely weird when rewatching the trilogy.
 
efyu_lemonardo said:
I know I'm late to this discussion, but just wanted to point out that the scenes you mention from ROTS are each like a single minute long, maybe two minutes max, whereas the ROTJ scenes are 5-10 minutes each.
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They also did not mention the rescue from Jabba's palace.
Hell Luke's entrance was boss all by itself.
The return to Dagobah.
Luke and Leia's conversation on Endor...
 
TheDinoman said:
Mike Stoklasa of RLM fame brought a rather interesting point about Jar Jar...

http://slpmode.com/a-v-club-milwauk...etailed-and-very-late-takedowns-of-star-wars/



Honestly, I definitely see what he means. In a film filled with so many passionless, dull, inhuman drones, Jar Jar is really one of the very few characters that has some sort of charisma and character to him. Doesn't mean he wasn't obnoxious of course, but still.
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Yeah, I can see some good points in that argument. I agree that the character is universally hated, so those points are largely ignored.
 
Hex said:
They also did not mention the rescue from Jabba's palace.
Hell Luke's entrance was boss all by itself.
The return to Dagobah.
Luke and Leia's conversation on Endor...
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Yeah, RotJ is a really good movie. I actually watched it last night, and it hangs with the other OT movies extremely well. I don't get the hate it receives, or people trying to say that it's as bad as the prequel films.

Even the Ewoks aren't that terrible.
 
TheDinoman said:
Mike Stoklasa of RLM fame brought a rather interesting point about Jar Jar...

http://slpmode.com/a-v-club-milwauk...etailed-and-very-late-takedowns-of-star-wars/



Honestly, I definitely see what he means. In a film filled with so many passionless, dull, inhuman drones, Jar Jar is really one of the very few characters that has some sort of charisma and character to him. Doesn't mean he wasn't obnoxious of course, but still.
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I really can't agree too much.
I mean yes the movie is a mess, but I can very clearly point to the moment he makes his debut in the film to where the movie takes a shit and every single scene that he is in and every single line he has is irredeemable.
You can salvage bits and pieces of the film to enjoy, but not a damned one of them have him in them.
Hell I almost feel bad for Ahmed Best, as he is the only person ever in a Star Wars film who will not cons to fall back on and will probably never feel safe showing up at cons.
 
George Oscar Bluth II said:
I don't know if that film actually had a middle though.
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I always considered everything from Luke going to Dagobah to Luke meeting Vader at Endor to be "the middle".

And I only like those two scenes + the speeder chase from that section.

Man, ROTJ has some rough pacing: an overlong beginning (Jabba's Palace just drags), an uneven middle and an amazing ending (except for Endor's ground battle, everything else is top notch).
 
AVC: Can the blame be placed solely on George Lucas?

MS: I’m honestly not a “George Lucas ruined my childhood” person—I don’t care that much—but I consider myself a “George Lucas disappointed my adulthood” person. You see, I’m not convinced that George is this genius filmmaker that he’s always been portrayed as being. My impression of the man is this: I see him as a guy who had a neat idea to make a space adventure movie in the spirit of the old Flash Gordon serials. Modernize it a little, make it share a lot of visual elements with World War II, add some mythological elements to it and call it Star Wars. Then get a whole bunch of other people to make it work somehow. Then take all the credit for it. Then use your influence as an “idea man” to produce such hits as Howard The Duck, The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles, and Radioland Murders.
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Totally on board with him on this.
 
efyu_lemonardo said:
I know I'm late to this discussion, but just wanted to point out that the scenes you mention from ROTS are each like a single minute long, maybe two minutes max, whereas the ROTJ scenes are 5-10 minutes each.
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Order 66 alone is 5 minutes long, dude and the opening is 15 minutes long. You're delusional.
 
Worst parts about RotJ: The instant-explosion trope is everywhere, it looks dumb. Forest chase also didn't age very gracefully.
Storm troopers are completely dumbed down for the sake of Ewoks. The latter are fine, but it's painful to watch the alleged elite soldiers chosen by the emperor himself behaving like total buffoons.
The movie is also the worst victim of the special editions, even though I also prefer the new song.

If the ending consisted of throne room and space battle only, it would without a doubt be the second best in the series. Great ending to a simple but well made and classic good vs. evil adventure.
 
Spieler Eins said:
Worst parts about RotJ: The instant-explosion trope is everywhere, it looks dumb. Forest chase also didn't age very gracefully.
Storm troopers are completely dumbed down for the sake of Ewoks. The latter are fine, but it's painful to watch the alleged elite soldiers chosen by the emperor himself behaving like total buffoons.
The movie is also the worst victim of the special editions, even though I also prefer the new song.

If the ending consisted of throne room and space battle only, it would without a doubt be the second best in the series. Great ending to a simple but well made and classic good vs. evil adventure.
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I've never felt like Storm Troopers were elite soldiers chosen by the Emperor himself. There are just too many of them. Even as a kid I looked at them like fodder. Put enough big guys in scary looking armor and they don't have to be good.

I looked at specialist units, Pilots, imperial guard, etc differently though.
 
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