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Star Wars: The Old Republic [Early Access: December 13th] Thread 2
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Spiritreaver
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Best tank in the game is Sniper, once you unlock the tanking spec at level 66.
Spiritreaver
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LOL, you're kidding me. Even my gimped Blizz the Jawa would out DPS an Enforcer, go QQ over some more meters.
Haven't seen the new patch notes?
Spiritreaver
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Sarlaccs have a MOUTH now? WTF? Nice to see the devs are already jumping the shark.
I've tried to figure this out on my own and I just can't get it. As much as I hate to do it, I'm going to break down and ask you guys for help.
Every time I try to download the client directly through my browser, it doesn't work. My PS3 just doesn't do anything. I don't want to wait through holding with tech support if I'm just doing something stupid that someone in this thread knows how to correct. Advice?
Every time I try to download the client directly through my browser, it doesn't work. My PS3 just doesn't do anything. I don't want to wait through holding with tech support if I'm just doing something stupid that someone in this thread knows how to correct. Advice?
Inferno313
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Uh... PS3? I'm confused. Either lame joke post or wrong thread.
BrokenEchelon
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I guess it can technically go up now.
It's still a toss up between "EA: Let's blow this thing and go home" and "WOW With Lightsabers"
Spiritreaver
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If those are the choices, definitely prefer the EA one. I like the WoW one, but I think it'll whoosh people.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
I'd lol at either. But the lightsabers one will make the first couple pages more interesting.
Might as well go with the wow one since that is what most people will say anyways. :|
HarryDemeanor
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I like WoW with explosions.
HarryDemeanor
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"BioWare doctors shot first."
darth_infamous
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Good luck with that early access
I got the code immediately from Amazon and redeemed it. I assume they wouldn't be providing them if they weren't still available? I dunno. I won't feel too bad if not..I don't have a cap but I can't fathom downloading that much in one go so we'll see.
Sith and Republic ACs are mirrored, yeah. There's only one instance I can think of where an ability on one faction is not mirrored across to the other AC, which is the Sage/Sorcerer level 46 ability. The reason for that is unknown and likely to be incomprehensibly stupid anyway, so it is best to ignore it. Otherwise the classes are meant to be identical on either faction.
As for your healer question, the truth of the matter is it isn't really clear. There are three healer ACs on either faction, and the design intent is that they are all primary healers when they spec into the appropriate skill tree. You'll find that all ACs in this game are pretty much required to heavily invest skill points to move into the healer role capably.
The intent of their parity does not make it so, but I haven't seen a receipt of any meaningful data to say there's an AC with a significant disadvantage when it comes to healing. I think I'd say from the stuff I have gone over, there's a question of resource mechanics not lending themselves to a level playing field in the long run, but I don't think it's going to manifest itself as a significant issue before BioWare tinkers with things.
Given that we can't make any reasonable assumptions about what they're actually going to mess with regarding healer mechanics and values, your best bet is to stick to their known design goals and go with the AC that has the strongest appeal to you at face value:
The Commando (or Mercenary for the Empire) is a heavy armor healer that is almost exclusively direct-healing based, with the least amount of instant cast heals, but a significant amount of passive buffs and strong utility. Their resource mechanic is ammo; they start at 12 units of ammunition, with each ability using a different amount of ammo per cast. The rate of ammo regeneration is gated; the less ammo you currently have, the slower it will regenerate. This means you must more carefully consider when to rapidly expend ammo, as leaving yourself with little "in the clip" means it will take longer to get that ammo back. There are mechanics in place to further manipulate your stock of ammo, and a big part of playing the class is going to be learning how to best manage those abilities and core regen to maximize your effectiveness. The other two skill trees for this AC outside of healing are for ranged DPS, as the AC is mainly based around the large assault cannon that separates them from the other Trooper AC (Vanguard).
The Scoundrel (or Operative) is a medium armor healer that has the most heal-over-time abilities of all the healers, though they still have some direct healing; they are also the only healer AC also capable of stealth. Their resource mechanic is energy - this works very similarly to the Commando in that it is gated on a curve, so the less energy you have, the slower it regenerates. Like the Commando, they also have additional ways of managing that resource beyond basic regeneration, and the main goal is to juggle those mechanics to get the most out of your energy bar in each situation. They don't have quite as many passive buffs attached to their heals as the Commando, but they are far more mobile as many of their heals are instant cast, so they can handle more healing during movement. They are also (along with the Sage/Sorcerer) capable of resurrecting a player during combat, which the Commando is unable to do. The other two non-healing skill trees for this AC are DPS trees that are mostly melee and short-range focused, playing off their stealth and close-range scattergun off-hand weapon.
The Sage (or Sorcerer) is a light armor healer that has the most varied types of heals of all the healer ACs: cast time direct heals, an instant cast heal-over-time, a channeled single target heal, a cast time AoE direct heal, an instant cast absorption shield, etc. Their resource mechanic is Force, and unlike the other two healer ACs is not gated - the Sage's Force regenerates at a set rate no matter how much of their resource is remaining. They also have the deepest base amount of resource of any of the healers. Compared to the other two healers, they also have the least amount of ways to manage that resource; they have one ability that trades their own health for Force, which once used lowers their current Force regeneration by 25% for 10 seconds (though part of the way the class works after skill points is that they can proc a buff from a particular heal to remove the penalties from that ability). The only other way for the Sage to alter their regeneration currently is through gear via the Presence stat, which is also unique to the Sage. This AC's other two non-healing skill trees are focused on ranged DPS; they wield a lightsaber, but for the most part it isn't something you'll get to hit people with as a Sage.
Pick what sounds like it suits your play style the most. Even if there was a more significant imbalance between them right now, picking your class based on that at launch is probably not the wisest idea, as things likely won't be as volatile in that regard as they are around launch until the game's first expansion.
No you see Bioware decided to forgo standard genre conventions and base the headstart on when you input your preorder key so if you input it now you're looking at Dec 19th if any headstart at all.
Eh, I wouldn't count on that. I predict a pre-order today will get in 3 days early. I think they extended the early access to prevent late comers from feeling ripped off by only getting in 1 day early.
/optimist
Big Chungus
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I don't think so Tim.
40 Minutes =D
I still think it's retarded they're only sending out the invites literally right as the servers go up. Talk about not being prepared =/
yeahe i am not the only one who seeing Al Boland first xD
vitaminwateryum
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nismogrendel
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Still torn on what I want to play. Smuggler looks real cool, I'm not sure if the DPS/heal hybrid is worth it or if I just want to go for the straight DPS.
Played a master pistoleer in SWG, I really liked it. I hope there is a DL-44 lookalike in TOR.
Is the heal/dps combo class the one with stealth or can the gunslinger stealth as well?
Played a master pistoleer in SWG, I really liked it. I hope there is a DL-44 lookalike in TOR.
Is the heal/dps combo class the one with stealth or can the gunslinger stealth as well?
David Lo Pan
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Sith Warrior all the way!!!
The Elite
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You're missing out, I just hit season 3
I've just started Season 2. This show has a slow start but the second season has been great so far.
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