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Star Wars: The Old Republic [Releasing Date: Dec 20 NA/EU - NDA Lifted]

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Spire

Subconscious Brolonging
Billychu said:
Cap is 50. End game stuff has been in for a while.

Thanks. The reveal that there were two more planets that weren't in the beta got me wondering what all wasn't being tested.
 
x3n05 said:
*sigh* we (gf and I) just fell for the mad rush/hype and ordered 2 copies of the CE from Gamestop delivered to Australia

$380 later we have confirmation, ouch :/
What the fuck.
380 dollars for two games?....
Now I've seen everything.

Sad thing is, of that money probably only 20 dollars will go to bioware...
 

LAUGHTREY

Modesty becomes a woman
I have no sympathy for the people complaining about the Amazon screw-up, claiming you're going to buy something for 10 bucks cheaper 2 years before it comes out doesn't really mean you're going to get away with it. I would have more sympathy if they got the price raised without a refund of the pre-order.
 

gatti-man

Member
SneakyStephan said:
What the fuck.
380 dollars for two games?....
Now I've seen everything.


Sad thing is, of that money probably only 20 dollars will go to bioware...
When you are married $380 is a small price to pay for a peaceful house.
 

Gvaz

Banned
antonz said:
Yep if you get a CE the wife doesnt get stuck with a standard edition lol
That's if you're lucky enough that she even wants to play anything other than Farmville or Kirby or ameba pico or pigg or world chef or whatever.

So I'm looking at the Jedi Guardian and he's literally a warrior from wow. Focus looks like it's pvp centric? idk.

Okay so on the alliance side:

DPS:
sentinel
shadow
gunslinger
Support or offtanks:
vanguard
commando
scoundrel
healer:
sage
tank:
guardian

?
 

Lexxon

Member
LAUGHTREY said:
I have no sympathy for the people complaining about the Amazon screw-up, claiming you're going to buy something for 10 bucks cheaper 2 years before it comes out doesn't really mean you're going to get away with it. I would have more sympathy if they got the price raised without a refund of the pre-order.

The problem is, I imagine, that the UK store probably has something similar to the US Store, which is a pre-order price guarantee. Which guarantees that the lowest the price is between the day you order it and the day you receive it, you'll pay that price. Amazon cancelling all the orders is a giant middle finger to that policy, even if the price wasn't known ahead of time.

I believe many people got StarCraft II for $50 on the US store since they preordered before it was known that the console tax would start affecting top-tier PC games. I don't remember any bullshit like this happening. In fact, for reasons unknown, I got refunded $20 of my $100 for the collector's edition of SCII, so the price may have changed (even if by mistake) sometime after I preordered.
 

LAUGHTREY

Modesty becomes a woman
Morn said:
New trailer announcing the pre-order.
Link?

Also; if you pre-ordered today don't forget to enter your code on the SWTOR site since it's apparently seperate. I just redeemed my pre-order for early access and my color crystal.
 

Gvaz

Banned
Panel: we can't talk about that sorry! Next question! we can't talk about that sorry! Next question! we can't talk about that sorry! Next question!

what the fuck is the POINT
 

Jarmel

Banned
MadraptorMan said:
Holiday release...? What does that mean, November? December? :/

Means October, November, December.

BF3 is listed as a holiday title and it's in October.

My guess is early October to avoid clashing with BF3 and roll off of impressions from September beta and cut down on leaktime.
 

Blackface

Banned
1. Respec'ing your AC is fucking STUPID
2. Allowing people who buy the CE exclusive access to a store where they can buy gear is straight Pay to win. If those items are continually added, and also account for max level dungeon gear. I won't be playing SWTOR, and probably neither will anyone I know.

I am not interested in a pay to win game. It's fucking retarded. They announced so many cool things, and addressed a lot of the concerns I saw on the beta forums. But to add a store, where you can buy gear with credits, ONLY if you dropped $150 on the CE. Is the dumbest shit I have ever seen from a AAA game.
 
Trouble said:
I think one of them said you can access the VIP area with in game credits?

You buy the CE items with in game credits.

So there's going to be a VIP area for Collector's Edition owners eh? Damnit. Means I must buy the CE.

-.-
 

Forever

Banned
Blackface said:
1. Respec'ing your AC is fucking STUPID
Is this confirmed?

edit: Didn't read the other posts. Looks like it is. Shit.

Maxrpg said:
sounds like WoW's. 1 Gold to buy, then ramps up increasingly after that.
WoW doesn't have anything that compares to Advanced Classes. Talent trees are completely separate. This is like allowing you to respec from a Mage to a Warlock at level 85.
 

Mastamind

Member
Gvaz said:
That's if you're lucky enough that she even wants to play anything other than Farmville or Kirby or ameba pico or pigg or world chef or whatever.

So I'm looking at the Jedi Guardian and he's literally a warrior from wow. Focus looks like it's pvp centric? idk.

Okay so on the alliance side:

DPS:
sentinel
gunslinger

healer:
sage
scoundrel
commando

tank:
guardian
vanguard
shadow

?

fixed (i think). and your healers/tanks can dps as well by choosing a different tree
 

Forever

Banned
Trouble said:
Yes, but it will get progressively more expensive every time you respec. I don't see this as a big issue.
It's a huge issue for the same reason that allowing you to switch from a Mage to a Priest at level 85 would be a huge issue in WoW. I'm very disappointed to hear this.
 

Blackface

Banned
Forever said:
Is this confirmed?

yes, and it goes against everything they said about what you do impacting your toon.

Right now I can't think of a single thing you do in-game that actually impacts your character. Outside of typical companion stuff.

You can respec, you can switch AC's, you will be able to probably switch factions (they said you will be able to use the Republic or empire only races on the other faction but they won't say how, aka paid transfers).
 

zugzug

Member
Jarmel said:
Gamestop still up and running with CEs.

and is Gamestop still doing their special packaging charge of $15 on top of the shipping costs.

I learned not to order from Gamestop ever after buying Burning Crusade and Warhammer onilne CEs from Gamestop and seeing those $15 special packaging charges.
 

Spire

Subconscious Brolonging
Blackface said:
1. Respec'ing your AC is fucking STUPID
2. Allowing people who buy the CE exclusive access to a store where they can buy gear is straight Pay to win. If those items are continually added, and also account for max level dungeon gear. I won't be playing SWTOR, and probably neither will anyone I know.

I am not interested in a pay to win game. It's fucking retarded. They announced so many cool things, and addressed a lot of the concerns I saw on the beta forums. But to add a store, where you can buy gear with credits, ONLY if you dropped $150 on the CE. Is the dumbest shit I have ever seen from a AAA game.

Unless it's endgame gear, I couldn't care less. I don't think anyone gives a shit about dinky leveling gear. From what I've read it's only vanity gear and pets and shit, so who really cares? I'm not sure how that's "pay to win".
 

Forever

Banned
Mago said:
I really hope there's a long cooldown for AC respeccing.
I hope they change their minds and switch it back to being unchangeable.

The Advanced Classes are now really no more than two extra talent trees apiece, reducing the total number of distinct classes to four. They took one of the most unique and interesting features and destroyed it in one stroke.
 
Forever said:
It's a huge issue for the same reason that allowing you to switch from a Mage to a Priest at level 85 would be a huge issue in WoW. I'm very disappointed to hear this.

It's more like switching from an Arms warrior to a Prot warrior, or a Holy priest to a Shadow priest. It's not like you can change your Sith Assassin to a Sith Marauder...
 

Forever

Banned
EhrgeizVII said:
It's more like switching from an Arms warrior to a Prot warrior.
No. That would be exactly like switching from a Vengeance Juggernaut to an Immortal Juggernaut.

This is like switching from a Warrior to a Rogue.

Iadien said:
Respec has to be in, too many people want it.
This isn't a respec, this is a class change. No other MMO that I can think of does this.
 

Mago

Neo Member
EhrgeizVII said:
It's more like switching from an Arms warrior to a Prot warrior, or a Holy priest to a Shadow priest. It's not like you can change your Sith Assassin to a Sith Marauder...
But you WILL be able to change your Sith Mage/Healer to a Sith Rogue with a tank talent tree.
 

Spire

Subconscious Brolonging
Forever said:
This isn't a respec, this is a class change. No other MMO that I can think of does this.

You serious? Plenty of MMO's let you change your class completely, like the FF series for instance. I actually prefer a system like that, as it means you really only need one character.
 
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