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Star Wars: The Old Republic [Releasing Date: Dec 20 NA/EU - NDA Lifted]
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unluckyhat
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Has that tagline even been used with the game before?
I don't think so. I think "Join the Fight" is more likely to grace the launch advertisements.unluckyhat said:
Azwethinkweiz
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They'd really release it two days before Thanksgiving? That seems awfully silly but I guess WoW came out Thanksgiving week as well.
Open Source
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DimmuBurgerKing said:
In Everquest, at launch, most people made some effort to roleplay at least a little. "Powergamers" were not that common.
Nowadays, the games are basically designed to turn everyone into a powergamer (not that Everquest wasn't, but people weren't trained that way yet). It's not about existing in a virtual world; it's about gaining levels and loot, with varied geography as a window dressing. The huge majority of game features, development effort, rewards/incentives, etc. are all centered around combat/character advancement, and roleplaying-related features are limited to some dance emotes.
I'm not judging (I'm not a roleplayer myself), just observing.
When I first got on EQ (Pre-Luclin), it was my first MMO. I thought roleplaying was expected, but people just avoided me. I sat my mom down to play and we spent three hours freaking out over finding spiderling silks because the fate of the world depended on it.Open Source said:
/nostalgia
Interfectum
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So I take it stealth in this game is similar to WoW where you can stay in stealth indefinitely? I like.
Only 2 of 16 ACs have permanent stealth. And those 2 classes happen to be very unpopular so far.zugzug said:
EDIT: You guys have no idea how happy I am to be home right now. I have a constant internet connection (sort of), an awesome computer, and 2 monitors. As opposed to...a Kindle with a bad 3G connection.
Interfectum
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Billychu said:
Nice, I'll just have to decide whether to go smuggler or IA then... That's probably down to armor choices.
Interfectum
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The only problem with the smuggler class so far is the scoundrel armor sets I've seen all look boring as hell. Has anyone seen any cool screens of scoundrel sets they can point me to? Yes I'm that shallow, btw.
Interfectum
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Billychu said:
Yeah there's gotta be more armor types for the Scoundrel than just jackets and pants. I understand going for the Han Solo look for the beginning part of the game but they should let the scoundrel get some cool shit later. I'd even settle for the gunslinger look.
WarMacheen
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MaddenNFL64 said:
Damn, that's Metal Gear Solid: Star Wars Edition
Felix Lighter
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I'm still undecided on my class but the idea of never touching a lightsaber or the force is a tough pill to swallow for me.
Mr. Luchador
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That video seems very boring.
BattleMonkey
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FieryBalrog said:
EVE is great, my main go to MMO, and I think it really has carved a major niche that draws in the gamers who aren't into the more traditional game. For a game of it's budget and low profile it's probably one of the biggest success stories in the industry probably. Lot of games have far exceeded that number, but none have really been able to sustain of course. For most MMO you can generally point to the many flaws and problems of why that game failed though, so many have sold well and had limited success but they could't retain.
And RIFT is actually the one success so far it would seem, at last producers letter it was stated that they had around 600k subs and been actually slowly increasing, it seems they have been pretty consistent so far. RIFT really is bringing nothing new it's mainly another WoW clone with a couple new features, but what it did succeed at is lots of support, regular content updates, and most of all, one of the most polished MMO releases in years. SWTOR needs to come out in a solid state more than anything I think, the game doesn't have to revolutionize, lot of people just want something new, but if the game is not in good shape at launch or soon after, it's going to crash and burn. The game is already going to sell a ton and be big (it's star wars, hyped to hell, and already EA's most preordered game), they just have to hope the game has quality to keep those players. Right now it sounds like stuff is still very rough state in Beta so I'm concerned obviously.
FieryBalrog said:
I don't think the name alone is going to do it, but it will help no doubt. Gamers want new MMO and it's clear many are sick of stuff like WoW as they always jump to what is new. Games like Conan and Warhammer with lesser known IP's can do over 1 million sales, then a Star Wars game in this current MMO environment should easily do big numbers, but as been said countless times here, retention is what matters and we will never know this till after game launches. I do think that the SW IP will give the game far more staying power than many other games due to fan factor. Galaxies was from a time when MMO's were far smaller in popularity and really it was the heavy fan factor that even kept it going so long. TOR looks to be hitting far more stronger in this current MMO environment, I would definitly say the SW IP will be a major factor, but it's no gaurantee of course.
maabus1999
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Billychu said:
That isn't accurate (unless they changed that in the last couple days when I've been busy). It is 4 of 16 AC's. With another 4 having temporary stealth. Grand total of 8 AC's with stealth possibilities.
Interfectum
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maabus1999 said:
If a Sith Assassin has perm stealth then I'm def going for that class.
BattleMonkey
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Rflagg said:
Well the reward is often going through content faster. In WoW rogues were able to just easy mode through so many quests using stealth. Making it easier and getting bigger reward I don't think would be best
Billychu said:
It appears so, yes.
More smuggler detail here: http://torwars.com/2011/08/09/biowares-zoeller-drops-smuggler-specifics/
Interfectum
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steadfast said:
Eh, this doesn't make sense to me. Wouldn't a class that has permanent stealth abilities be the perfect scout, regardless of cover mechanic? Couldn't you play a Scoundrel similar to how you play a WoW rogue? Sneak in, do some damage, sneak out.
Interfectum
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Billychu said:
It seemed as if the dev was talking about the smuggler class as a whole and not specifically the gunslinger, but that's good to hear.
Interfectum
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Billychu said:
Yeah, I see that. I wish the devs would start naming the AC's specifically to avoid confusion.
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Measley said:
Out of the choices on the Republic side, yes. That's probably your best fit (although nothing in TOR is really like the Shaman as far as totems).
Although Jedi Warrior could fit as well because Enhancement is generally a dual-wielding, melee class. I believe.
BattleMonkey
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Interfectum said:
Well being a scout is going to be up to the player. In WoW as a rogue I always was scouting for the party ahead or especially doing lot of info relaying in PVP
HarryDemeanor
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Going to have to wait until after the game launches to see that video. If it took them this long to bring out this class trailer, then who knows how long it'll take them to bring out the progression video.Shrinnan said:
Fine Ham Abounds
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Morn said:
MaddenNFL64
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Another vid from alterswtor
http://vimeo.com/27530849
Fucking Hoth. I want a snow angel emote!
http://vimeo.com/27530849
pass: alterswtor
Fucking Hoth. I want a snow angel emote!
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