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[Gvaz]

A lot, I hope.

 

[BattleMonkey]

This game is not ready for an RC, no fucking way

Usually doesn't stop MMO launches

 

[Vestal]

This game is not ready for an RC, no fucking way

its not exactly an rc its more of a lets get all the art assets done and get em burned with an accompanying patch executable. I mean there will be a 0day patch hehehe

 

[Gunmonkey36]

The rumor going around is that the new beta build (which will be used for future weekend tests) is a

Spoiler

release candidate

.

I have great doubts about this rumor.

 

[Sigfodr]

Makes perfect sense. It's a "candidate" and they are hoping for a 2011 release. If they make it for that launch window, then there wouldn't be time to distribute this build, get feedback and data, then start a new build and then test that and finally, prep your patches for Day 0.

 

[CoilShot]

Internal Release Date Set but May Slip

 

[Dakota47]

If Morn's rumor is true that means us Europeans can only do some stress testing and that's it. Well Bioware, fuck you too.

 

[Morn]

Internal Release Date Set but May Slip

Yea that's from last week. If they have the date set internally, the RC rumor makes more sense.

 

[Desaan]

Even if it did slip till next year it wouldn't be the end of the world, I mean have you seen the release schedule line up for Q4? Dayum.

Dark Souls and Skyrim are enough to see me through the winter, with a dash of BF3 and Arkham City and.......you get the idea.

 

[Gvaz]

Mid year (not fiscal) 2012 should be okay, it would have a nice start.

 

[BattleMonkey]

Mid year (not fiscal) 2012 should be okay, it would have a nice start.

They aren't going to delay it that long

 

[NeededSleep]

Oh man the smuggler video was damn awesome. I actually liked the gunslinger a bit more than the scoundrel from watching the abilities. Meh to invisibility >.>

 

[Morn]

They aren't going to delay it that long

They won't delay it until mid-2012. And releasing it within two months of March would be a WAR-level of suicide as they'll be slamming into the new WoW expansion.

 

[Gvaz]

They won't delay it until mid-2012. And releasing it within two months of March would be a WAR-level of suicide as they'll be slamming into the new WoW expansion.

If WoW comes out with a new one in march, releasing in may will only help rather than hurt.

 

[BattleMonkey]

Soonest they would delay would probaby be very very early 2012, any longer and it's suicide going up against possible new Blizzard stuff on several fronts, and new MMO's like GW2 and Terra

 

[JJBro One]

Has anybody got the beta code after preordering from amazon? I didn't.

 

[Emitan]

Has anybody got the beta code after preordering from amazon? I didn't.

There is no beta code for pre-ordering. Do you mean the early access code?

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

Soonest they would delay would probaby be very very early 2012, any longer and it's suicide going up against possible new Blizzard stuff on several fronts, and new MMO's like GW2 and Terra

I haven't followed Tera but I think the buzz is generally that it's DOA in the West. Something about the original dev team already leaving and working on another game.

Again, I don't think GW2 is direct competition for TOR except in the sense that all games of any type are competing for people's time. WoW would be closer competition, but I still think even if TOR releases next year it will still be before Blizzard's new MMO.

My money is still on TOR doing well at least until whatever the hell Titan is releases.

 

[kodt]

There is no beta code for pre-ordering. Do you mean the early access code?

We thought pre-ordering increased your chances of getting in though.

 

[Morn]

We thought pre-ordering increased your chances of getting in though.

Not at all.

 

[BattleMonkey]

I haven't followed Tera but I think the buzz is generally that it's DOA in the West. Something about the original dev team already leaving and working on another game.

Again, I don't think GW2 is direct competition for TOR except in the sense that all games of any type are competing for people's time. WoW would be closer competition, but I still think even if TOR releases next year it will still be before Blizzard's new MMO.

My money is still on TOR doing well at least until whatever the hell Titan is releases.

It's not about one being really competition, but each one of these games takes a chip away at potential customer base. They want a big hit and they need people playing, other games coming out are going to be ramping up their hype machine as well

 

[kodt]

Not at all.

Pre-order cancelled.











j/k

 

[border]

Why do people freak out about this shit? It's a game - not a promise of Social Security.

Because it was supposed to be more than one weekend and people were looking forward to being invited? If they can get a beta going for the first weekend in September I don't see what's so terribly hard about doing it for the remaining weekends.

 

[Rflagg]

Disclaimer this is not based on any experience I have had in beta, this is the same generic view I have had since they announced the game and based on what I believe is common sense.

I don't care when they release it I just hope they make sure it is ready. I wasn't at the wow release, but every mmo I have ever played had bugs/issues at launch and most people seem to expect some of that so bug free is not what I am asking for here, just be ready when you go live please.

 

[Emitan]

We thought pre-ordering increased your chances of getting in though.

I think that rumor originated from this thread.

 

[Xamdou]

Still no beta invite... Bioware should have based the beta invite selection by the amount of Bioware games fans own.

 

[Giolon]

Everyone knows that your chance of getting into a game beta is inversely proportional to how badly you want to play it.

 

[bounchfx]

Is anyone else's hype for this game dying rapidly?
a few weeks ago I was super excited, got my pre order, ready to play.

but now I'm just.. eh. when is it gonna be? so much waiting I really hope it isn't just wow in space.. but from what I hear...

I'm sure when it gets close to release I'll be megahype again, but this is certainly a downturn for me

 

[BattleMonkey]

Because it was supposed to be more than one weekend and people were looking forward to being invited? If they can get a beta going for the first weekend in September I don't see what's so terribly hard about doing it for the remaining weekends.

Looking forward to possibly getting in. Kind of silly to get so worked up about something like these weekends when there was a chance you wouldn't even get in and it was for 3 days only also

 

[LowParry]

Is anyone else's hype for this game dying rapidly?
a few weeks ago I was super excited, got my pre order, ready to play.

but now I'm just.. eh. when is it gonna be? so much waiting I really hope it isn't just wow in space.. but from what I hear...

I'm sure when it gets close to release I'll be megahype again, but this is certainly a downturn for me

Do yourself a favor. Play other games. A distraction away from this game has made it all more of a pleasant surprise when new info appears.

 

[Rapture]

Do yourself a favor. Play other games. A distraction away from this game has made it all more of a pleasant surprise when new info appears.

This is what i did. Dues Ex has been my savior.

But i still cant help but feel like I'm not very hyped for this game anymore. Not to the point where I'm going to cancel my pre-order but Bioware hasn't given me anything to be excited about for weeks and I've had to turn to leak websites to get any sort of info on the game.

 

[Mr. Luchador]

If Morn's rumor is true that means us Europeans can only do some stress testing and that's it. Well Bioware, fuck you too.

Pretty much.

I'll watch from a distance and jump in when seems safe, cheap and I'm interested again.

 

[Giolon]

This is what i did. Dues Ex has been my savior.

But i still cant help but feel like I'm not very hyped for this game anymore. Not to the point where I'm going to cancel my pre-order but Bioware hasn't given me anything to be excited about for weeks and I've had to turn to leak websites to get any sort of info on the game.

The less hype the better. Stop obsessing over every detail. Go outside and get some fresh air. Play other games. Stop reading leak sites. If you happen to get a beta invite from Bioware, that's cool, log in and check it out. Finally one day you'll be pleasantly surprised that the game has a release date and it'll arrive.

This isn't aimed at you specifically. This goes for everyone. The level of hype surrounding this game borders on hysteria, and it's doing absolutely no good for anyone - not the fan and not even Bioware. People have expectations that no game can live up to. It's best if everyone just calms down a little, comes back to earth, and realizes it's just another game. Yes, it's Star Wars. Yes, it's by Bioware. Yes, it's a WoW-style MMO. No need to lose your shit over it.

 

[anod1zed]

There are so many great games coming out in the next couple of months. They would have to either get this thing out there late Sept./Oct. or push it out well into the first quarter of 2012. Releasing in Nov/Dec would still sell really well no doubt, but at what loss due to other great titles.

The blu rays of all the movies come out on the 16th this week. Sounds like a pretty good PR opportunity to me. I could see them making some sort of announcement to ride off of that. But who knows...

 

[Gvaz]

If this game releases sooner than october I won't be able to buy it. Though ideally it should be released xmas that way I can actually devote time to it.

 

[FieryBalrog]

Beta Q&A on AlterSwtor

Something I found relevant regarding companions:

Q: Some testers have given the impression and/or said, as well as some recent hints by Bioware, that companions don’t have as much customization as percieved and that you just buy pre-set customization options and don’t have as much creative control as you would of had with your character? Is this true (for either humans or aliens) and does this continue to occur during endgame? If so, is Bioware aware and/or working towards improving the companion customization, especially as maybe a reward or something for endgame?

A: Well, I’m seriously pissed with bioware on this question.

First of all, you can only customize the first companions for every class right now. There are 3 companion kits for each one of them. So you can run around with red tatooed Vette, yellow Vette, and blue Vette. Nothing fancy, right? The other companions doesn’t even have these 3 options, only the default.

Second, and it worries me like hell: Yes, you get 5 companions – 5 different classes. Sounds cool right? Well, it’s not. Bounty hunter is the perfect example. You get Mako first. She’s a healer, and she’s awesome. Basically she’s an “autoheal” for the BH, so you don’t need to heal yourself in or out of combat. You just run around and kill shit, never stop. Awesome. Then you get a ranged dps, a melee dps, a ranged tank, and a melee tank. Now they seriously SUCK. They are. I mean I tried to go with Blizz (ranged tank), because he’s supercute, and funny. He really is, so good work on that bioware. But seriously, he sucks at combat. I had to regenerate after every combat with him. It’s just not fun. So you will go with Mako, from level 1 to level 50. Other classes have their Makos too, for example sorc – Khem, or marauder – Malavi Quinn. You just can’t live without them.

 

[Giolon]

Beta Q&A on AlterSwtor

Something I found relevant regarding companions:

I can't comment on the beta, but I can say that person is an idiot.

 

[Hawk269]

Honestly a release candidate does make sense. Probably be at least a week before server is back up and at that point your pushing October. Retail is beginning to get its advertising materials and frankly they dont have time left for more beta builds then a RC build.

Agree. It can be a release candidate and still be patched up and down. It depends on how much work they were able to cram into this latest build. At this point, if this is RC version, it can still be patched heavily to make it proper RC. But we still have time if the Mid-Nov. rumor is true.

New build should roll out soon, internal and external testers give it a good 1 week testing, then they can add the weekend testers again. By Oct. 1st they would have enough data to begin fixing whatever needs to be fixed. And it is not like they have not internally started testing already and fixing some stuff already.

I think the question about it being pushed back to 2012 is more about how much content has made it into this build. If they are content complete and it is just about testing/bug reports etc. then 2011 is likely. If the build still has little to nothing past level 40, then yeah 2012.

 

[maabus1999]

I can't comment on the beta, but I can say that person is an idiot.

I "am" in and can say the new changes since previous builds are far superior. Wait to the next build to see what they finalize for all the companions.

It is why I'm sure companies hate leaks. They release a game system to test only partially implemented to see how well it is received and if they should continue, but then someone complains about it 'not being done' in beta.

 

[maabus1999]

Agree. It can be a release candidate and still be patched up and down. It depends on how much work they were able to cram into this latest build. At this point, if this is RC version, it can still be patched heavily to make it proper RC. But we still have time if the Mid-Nov. rumor is true.

New build should roll out soon, internal and external testers give it a good 1 week testing, then they can add the weekend testers again. By Oct. 1st they would have enough data to begin fixing whatever needs to be fixed. And it is not like they have not internally started testing already and fixing some stuff already.

I think the question about it being pushed back to 2012 is more about how much content has made it into this build. If they are content complete and it is just about testing/bug reports etc. then 2011 is likely. If the build still has little to nothing past level 40, then yeah 2012.

I am in the "semi" RC camp of the beta crowd. I think it is the last build for public testing though. The real RC most likely will be the one slightly ahead of public testing (their internal testing servers and teams).

And yeah, always a zero day patch!

 

[Gunmonkey36]

The less hype the better. Stop obsessing over every detail. Go outside and get some fresh air. Play other games. Stop reading leak sites. If you happen to get a beta invite from Bioware, that's cool, log in and check it out. Finally one day you'll be pleasantly surprised that the game has a release date and it'll arrive.

This isn't aimed at you specifically. This goes for everyone. The level of hype surrounding this game borders on hysteria, and it's doing absolutely no good for anyone - not the fan and not even Bioware. People have expectations that no game can live up to. It's best if everyone just calms down a little, comes back to earth, and realizes it's just another game. Yes, it's Star Wars. Yes, it's by Bioware. Yes, it's a WoW-style MMO. No need to lose your shit over it.

I haven't seen truer words posted in a long time. Seriously this should be posted at the top of every page of this thread.

 

[Gvaz]

I can't comment on the beta, but I can say that person is an idiot.

He's right though, in that there's no "customization equip" you can buy for the second jedi companion, but it has a slot available.

You can customize their gear and such so that's enough for me.

 

[CzarTim]

I haven't seen truer words posted in a long time. Seriously this should be posted at the top of every page of this thread.

And every other thread on the Gaming side.

 

[Sigfodr]

GameStop is done with CE reserves in store, but started reserving the guide.

 

[Emitan]

Why would you buy a guide that will be outdated in 2 weeks?

 

[LowParry]

Why would you buy a guide that will be outdated in 2 weeks?

Collectors love that kind of stuff.

 

[kodt]

Collectors love that kind of stuff.

Yeah it is just a collectors item really. If anyone gets it, they should keep it sealed.

 

[Deadly]

Beta Q&A on AlterSwtor

Something I found relevant regarding companions:

He's wrong about one thing though. Yes there's very few customizations for the companion. But gear actually changes the appearance abit. At least the armor does.

 

[gatti-man]

Why are people getting upset about companions anyways. Its a frill of a detail. Get upset about flashpoints and end game. Obviously companions will be something they expand on in the future. Thats like complaining about no AA in the beta. dumb.

 

[Morn]

Why are people getting upset about companions anyways. Its a frill of a detail. Get upset about flashpoints and end game. Obviously companions will be something they expand on in the future. Thats like complaining about no AA in the beta. dumb.

Maybe because BioWare has been hyping them as a revolutionary and central aspect of the game? Ya think?