Ignis Fatuus
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Because I know the state the game is in right now.CaLe said:
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Star Wars: The Old Republic [Releasing Date: Dec 20 NA/EU - NDA Lifted]
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Confused101
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I like that MMORPG article about beta testing. I got heavily into MMO's with EQ and since then I've played and tested many games. And yes, I did actually test the environment and mechanics and everything else. That was part of the fun. I always enjoyed sending in a bug report only to see that issue fixed in the next patch. It really felt like I was improving the game. I remember getting a "World Shaper" title in one of the games I tested and I can it was very appropriate. Might've been Aion, I don't remember. Anyway, it really doesn't seem like the majority actually want to improve anything. They just want a free preview. For the sake of the game, I hope this isn't the case with ToR.
water_wendi
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i act like a beta tester even in released games. im always trying to break stuff or find exploits or get into places i shouldnt be able to get in or trying things out just to see if they are possible. Its one of the reasons why i used to really love Wow.
Confused101
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Aw yeah, that's the classic jam right there. I had a Dark Elf Shadow Knight. That was my very first experience being a tank and I loved it. It was easy to get into groups and once I knew a dungeon, it was easy to take my group to a prime grinding spot. And once I started to be known a little bit, I'd get invites as soon as I would jump on. Things are a little different today with WoW's mechanics, but I still love tanking.Derwind said:
Ignis Fatuus
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There are a lot of people in beta who should not be there. I saw one guy just blow his account by spamming racial slurs in general chat. I saw another guy reach the first contested planet only to spend his entire time trolling and ganking. On the forums there is no shortage of people who act like they own the game. Then there are the leakers who get an invite and run to the cake site within the first two days just to feel special.Confused101 said:
That said, I believe these are the minority. The complete lack of accurate leaks from high level players is a strong indication to me that most testers take their responsibility seriously.
Confused101
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That's good to hear. It just makes me mad that those idiots in there took the place of a possible legit tester. But there's no way to predict what they're going to do so it's no one's fault but their own. For the most part, it sounds like the community is very focused on the game.Ignis Fatuus said:
Confused101 said:
EQ was pretty darn fun. I never got turned down from a group since my class was a great healer and slower.
But the downside was that my class had one of the slowest, if not the slowest solo level progression in the entire game. We don't do well by ourselves for the majority, at least not until we get near the lvl 40 range. And PvP was hell, yet I've always played on a PvP server... =P
Vestal
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Derwind said:
I remember beta testing M59, UO and EQ... Back then none of this download the client crap, they would send you a CD in the mail with the beta, I actually have those laying around in my CD archive still.. Feels like a part of history.
Fondest memories I think came from those 3.. I think I reported the most bugs during UO and EQ. UO particularly pertaning to spells and Guard behaviour, EQ was more dealing with stuck issues...
Still remember Arudane(Brad Mcquaid) running around dual-wielding Soul Fire hehehe.
Vestal
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Derwind said:
Soloing in Vanilla EQ?!?! That was like pulling teeth out, unless you were a GOD Necro, then you could FD at the Kings room and let your pet wreck havok.. I leveled a Pally and 99% of my leveling occured in groups, the last 10 levels(HELL LEVELS) were in my favorite zone out of any MMO ever which was Kedge Keep! Still remember a friend shaman peaking over the middle circle and getting Nuked dead in about 0.0010000001 seconds.
BACK. Exams done, time to fully concentrate on the hype thats reaching levels of insanity now.
Even though todays update was kinda meh we're just going to have to make do
Cuz it's been a couple of pages again now I'm plugging it again:
NeoGAF is recruiting european players for the Republic!
Looks us up on swtor.com or give me a PM and i'll tell you where to go.
Come join us in preperation for the release of TOR in the friendliest environment you could ever dream of.
Even though todays update was kinda meh we're just going to have to make do
Cuz it's been a couple of pages again now I'm plugging it again:
NeoGAF is recruiting european players for the Republic!
Looks us up on swtor.com or give me a PM and i'll tell you where to go.
Come join us in preperation for the release of TOR in the friendliest environment you could ever dream of.
Ignis Fatuus
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I would join an Imperial US GAF guild.
I could bring all of my beta knowledge to bear once it goes live. I'm in the biggest Imperial guild right now and we already have world bosses on farm.
I could bring all of my beta knowledge to bear once it goes live. I'm in the biggest Imperial guild right now and we already have world bosses on farm.
While we're waiting....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A0rwG39Jzk
Confused101
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Since EQ was my first MMO, it left a huge impression on me. I remember starting a character in Qeynos and running all the way to the Oasis. I vividly recall seeing the landscape turn to sand and as I trudged over a sand dune, in the distance I saw my first sand giant and I was awe struck. I ran down to the beach and I saw everyone running like crazy people as somebody trailed the specters down the coastline. I promptly died because I had no idea what was going on but I remember being totally amazed. Oasis became my home for a very long time.
Oh wait, I'm supposed to be talking about The Old Republic. Uhm. Let's see. I really want to wield a lightsaber.
Oh wait, I'm supposed to be talking about The Old Republic. Uhm. Let's see. I really want to wield a lightsaber.
Ignis Fatuus
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Just one?Confused101 said:I really want to wield a lightsaber.
Confused101
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Just one. WITH TWO BLADES!Ignis Fatuus said:
Oh, going back to the Guardian/Shadow tanking discussion, there's a video up on Darth Hater's site that talks to the lead story designer of Bioware (I think) and he mentions very quickly that he is having a lot of fun with an Inquisitor tank at the moment. The video was uploaded about 2 weeks ago. Good news for me. I bet the Consular tank is similar.
Confused101 said:Just one. WITH TWO BLADES!
Oh, going back to the Guardian/Shadow tanking discussion, there's a video up on Darth Hater's site that talks to the lead story designer of Bioware (I think) and he mentions very quickly that he is having a lot of fun with an Inquisitor tank at the moment. The video was uploaded about 2 weeks ago. Good news for me. I bet the Consular tank is similar.
There's a skill tree for stealth, that allow the Shadow to do massive amounts of damage when they leave it.
And another tree that supplements Melee.
And a shared skill tree that I suppose gives you some nukes, buffs and hopefully a HoT spell or minor healing.
I'm still deciding whether I want to go full DPS tank with my Shadow or become somewhat of a Rouge/Pally-ish character.
Ignis Fatuus
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The shared tree buffs spells. The stealth tree buffs stealth and stealth attacks. The other tree is for tanking. This is public info.Derwind said:
Going down the shared tree as a Shadow results in something not unlike a Battle Mage.
Xyrmellon
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Didn't see it posted anywhere else, and since it's most likely related to the Old Republic:
Star Wars Galaxies announces shutdown (via Giantbomb).
Star Wars Galaxies announces shutdown (via Giantbomb).
Ignis Fatuus said:
I know but that's not the complete skill(I'm trying not to use the word spell) list. Maybe there are minor healing branches in the shared skill set?
Or is there a place showing the list of skills the Shadow AC has available to it? I mean on that's official and unchanging?
HarryDemeanor
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Ignis Fatuus
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The descriptions of each tree on the official site are accurate. That's all I can say without breaking NDA.Derwind said:
Confused101
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Aw, you don't have to break it. Just snap a tiny bit off the corner of the NDA. The wait is horrible!Ignis Fatuus said:
HarryDemeanor
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I'm sticking with a mid-December launch for The Old Republic.
Ignis Fatuus
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I'm not sure how development cycles go or how much gets done in crunch time, but I would be pleasantly surprised if they got it out in September. Not shocked, but pleasantly surprised. I know that they want everything to be perfect when it comes out.
I really hope it comes out around the third week of December IMO.
My exams hit around the first week or two of December.
And then I'll have at least another two/three solid weeks of break before the winter term begins. If the game somehow comes out right after I finish my exams, that would be absolutely amazing.
I swear, I'll scarcely have time to eat or move my body, it'll be the three unhealthiest weeks of my life just playing SW:ToR on my break.
Glorious.
My exams hit around the first week or two of December.
And then I'll have at least another two/three solid weeks of break before the winter term begins. If the game somehow comes out right after I finish my exams, that would be absolutely amazing.
I swear, I'll scarcely have time to eat or move my body, it'll be the three unhealthiest weeks of my life just playing SW:ToR on my break.
Glorious.
Marketing wise I am sure they are alot further along than most would expect. As things have gone they just refuse to talk. Theres no way things like Collectors Edition details etc arent laid out yet.Yasae said:
As is the case though whatever Beta phase they consider the potential Go Gold Beta phase will be the determining factor. If it goes well they will hit the go switch. If something major pops up they slam the breaks
Gonaria said:
How much money would they lose if 3 quarters of there player base was playing for free for one month?
Unless we're talking about the sucky Trilogy(which we're not), than I don't see anyone not buying the blue rays.
I mean Original Trilogy on Blu-Ray + 1 month free SwTOR..... does it get any better?
Ignis Fatuus
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Might be worth it to get longterm subscribers, and you still need to buy the game itself. It's not a bad idea if the dates align.Derwind said:
I'm busy next semester though, so I'm personally hoping for December. XD
After raising my hype in the Wow thread you smash it back down to earth. Honestly, I would rather them get it as polished as they can and have a nice smooth launch. Also this summer and fall will be fairly busy at school for me so if it's winter then I can toss myself full force at this game.Blackface said:
bad pun sorry
They've had CGs since '09. Their marketing has always been ahead setting up a smoke screen.antonz said:
Development still feels behind schedule. Something's just off. I think if it were more in line with everything else happening the SW universe, nobody would mind "It's in 2011." The beta dates also feel a little behind the curve.
This is the perfect way to never have delays: never announce anything.
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