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[Q8D3vil]

just payed 7 $ for ign prime and so far its worth every goddamn penny.
i love the production

 

[Ty4on]

What do you get besides the players' views with prime?

 

[Q8D3vil]

trimaster vs spanishiwa on bally's stream.
better than games that don't mean anything.

 

[Pandaman]

bally's stream?

 

[zargle]

bally's stream?

the second stream, the link is at the bottom of the window. It has the open qualifiers today and tomorrow I believe.

 

[Pandaman]

so. is this like the actual ipl3? like the whole event is this weekend?

 

[Tacitus_]

What a badass bunker rush from Alive.

so. is this like the actual ipl3? like the whole event is this weekend?

They're done with the group stages, so yes. Supposedly two days of seed matches and then two day finals.

 

[Q8D3vil]

What do you get besides the players' views with prime?

support esport
i always pays for this kind of tournaments (except nasl).

 

[Deadman]

If i ask what map is this am i accidentally going to reveal i played 0 ladder games this season?

edit: its crevasse wtf? why isnt it all ice and stuff

 

[Pandaman]

huh. the whole tourney kinda snuck up on me then.
and we have mlg next week? :O

boss.

 

[Mairu]

NEOGAF IPL 3 THREAD

very quick op since nobody stepped up to make one

 

[jersoc]

huh. the whole tourney kinda snuck up on me then.
and we have mlg next week? :O

boss.

seriously, I had no idea that IPL was this weekend either. Sucks I gotta work next sat during mlg. I'll probably just stream w/o sound at work though. I more or less really care about the final day of MLG, so no lost there really.

Huk

 

[Ty4on]

support esport
i always pays for this kind of tournaments (except nasl).

Great point

The free stream is really good for, but I wish I could pay for prime.

 

[nilbog21]

these girls lol..

 

[Q8D3vil]

lol not the best play but definitely entertaining.

 

[a176]

why wont you pay for nasl

 

[Corran Horn]

support esport
i always pays for this kind of tournaments (except nasl).

Support ign? Meh.

 

[Q8D3vil]

why wont you pay for nasl

because season 1 was a garbage shit (i payed for that and was very disappointed with them) definitely not going to pay now with their shitty commentators and very small number of Korean players.

Support ign? Meh.

ign 2 was entertaining although it was replays.
whatever 7 $ is like buying from kfc minus the stomach ache
oil money ftw

 

[PhoenixDark]

Does anyone care about NASL? I haven't checked to see if the viewer numbers are still high (7k+), but I notice the TL threads seem kind of empty.

I've watched it maybe once this season. I just don't care for the games or casters. MLG is something I look forward to every time, and hopefully IPL3 is successful so we see more in the future. Both MLG and IGN have basically improved every major problem NASL had, such as guaranteeing everyone who travels to the event gets good money, and having multiple high quality streams.

 

[Pandaman]

i never watched after season 1.

 

[Tacitus_]

Does NASL even have anything going for it? I only watched the start of S1 and the finals. Such a shitty tournament.

 

[TheThunder]

Really looking forward to see Ryung/Ret.. and Ryung/MC.. also MC/Ret... basically every match except for Strelok.

 

[MrKnives]

IPL production value is amazing.

 

[PhoenixDark]

What happened in the Stephano v Alive games? I'm at work

 

[TheThunder]

What happened in the Stephano v Alive games? I'm at work

Was not close

 

[nilbog21]

lol who was that being interviewed?

 

[Corran Horn]

Goms new site is confusing. What happened to the old schedule for X league ;;

 

[HolyCheck]

Goms new site is confusing. What happened to the old schedule for X league ;;

Now you have one superior schedule for all leagues.

sites much better once you work it out corran. HAVE FAITH IN BASED JOHN

 

[Deadman]

I just bookmark the vod page at the start of each tournament and never leave there lol

 

[Corran Horn]

Now you have one superior schedule for all leagues.

sites much better once you work it out corran. HAVE FAITH IN BASED JOHN

It was so much easier to go to league then week 1, 2, 3, etc.

 

[AdventureRacing]

Where are all the protoss on the ladder? I've faced 1 in my last 20+ games. Kind of frustrating as it's my best matchup and it's my best chance to get into masters lol.

Right now i'm going about 50% against masters players so i'm hoping that i get promoted with the change of season. Now i'll probably start going on a crap run.

 

[Corran Horn]

Ill forever be able to spot observers now due to Mrmisters nuke game.

 

[Dooraven]

Win rates for the first year for SC2 are up

 

[Tntnnbltn]

Win rates for the first year for SC2 are up

http://i.imgur.com/cGzPj.png[IMG][/QUOTE]
Sounds about right. Protoss getting boned in every matchup.

 

[Dooraven]

lol I just realised that The PvZ and TvZ matchup graphs look like fishes

 

[ultron87]

At least one thing hasn't ever changed throughout the year: Terran OP

 

[PhoenixDark]

At least one thing hasn't ever changed throughout the year: Terran OP

And pretty much nothing has been done about it but some changes around the edges (bunker timings). Nerf Maraders and Mules

 

[Dooraven]

I'm just a bit surprised at what happened to ZvT in september, Protoss dying was obvious, but ZvT in september is a big wtf for me.

 

[ShallNoiseUpon]

I'm just a bit surprised at what happened to ZvT in september, Protoss dying was obvious, but ZvT in september is a big wtf for me.

September also has about 1/3rd of the games of August.

 

[Dooraven]

True, also I forgot that the october qualifiers were added to August which decreased the win % for terran a bit, so it wouldn't be added in september's one.

 

[ultron87]

And pretty much nothing has been done about it but some changes around the edges (bunker timings). Nerf Maraders and Mules

It could be worse. Remember when every TvZ was a Reaper fest?

 

[Q8D3vil]

And pretty much nothing has been done about it but some changes around the edges (bunker timings). Nerf Maraders and Mules

i'm ok with nerfing mules if they nerfed queen inject early game >_>

marauders in the other hand can't and won't be nerfed because of zvt.

 

[BigAT]

I'm just a bit surprised at what happened to ZvT in september, Protoss dying was obvious, but ZvT in september is a big wtf for me.

It makes me feel slightly better about my ZvT being absolutely awful.

I'm not alone!

 

[Q8D3vil]

True, also I forgot that the october qualifiers were added to August which decreased the win % for terran a bit, so it wouldn't be added in september's one.

i think its the new fast third cc and terran being better at countering zerg end game.

 

[fanboi]

Nice charts.

Just a tad missleading in the sense that it looks way worse (like 20% difference) due to the % interval they are using.

But I will say terran need some balancing.

 

[ghst]

And pretty much nothing has been done about it but some changes around the edges (bunker timings). Nerf Maraders and Mules

i like the idea of making mules "inefficient" as a trade off to their immense power for short term gains. say, for every 500 minerals a mule mines, 100 are lost to inefficiency. this would give some strategy to their use beyond "do i need scans any time soon?".

probably also worth noting that protoss are actually doing worse against zerg than terran. so many pvt problems would be solved by a simple emp nerf, pvz problems i believe are a lot more endemic to various nuances of the match-up.

 

[Q8D3vil]

i like the idea of making mules "inefficient" as a trade off to their immense power for short term gains. say, for every 500 minerals a mule mines, 100 are lost to inefficiency. this would give some strategy to their use beyond "do i need scans any time soon?".

probably also worth noting that protoss are actually doing worse against zerg than terran. so many pvt problems would be solved by a simple emp nerf, pvz problems i believe are a lot more endemic to various nuances of the match-up.

mules are already inefficient compared to probes/drones/scv's.

 

[Deadman]

I enjoy each month when the matchup numbers come in, always showing terran the strongest, then we get devil to come in and show how actually terran is really weak.

 

[Holden]

I enjoy each month when the matchup numbers come in, always showing terran the strongest, then we get devil to come in and show how actually terran is really weak.

THIS! THIS THIS AND THIS!

<3 ZergGAF </3 TerranGAF

 

[PhoenixDark]

i like the idea of making mules "inefficient" as a trade off to their immense power for short term gains. say, for every 500 minerals a mule mines, 100 are lost to inefficiency. this would give some strategy to their use beyond "do i need scans any time soon?".

probably also worth noting that protoss are actually doing worse against zerg than terran. so many pvt problems would be solved by a simple emp nerf, pvz problems i believe are a lot more endemic to various nuances of the match-up.

Ghosts should either be heavily nerfed or cost more, right now they're fucking ridiculous. I don't have too much of a problem with them in ZvT; yea it sucks seeing my top tier units 4-5 shot by snipes, but zerg can live with it. On the other hand Protoss get completely destroyed by them due to EMP

The problem with Maraders/nerfing is that it exposes some of the poor unit design in SC2. The unit is a giant easy button and nerfing them significantly would make Roaches (another easy button) too powerful in ZvT. I still think their damage and movement speed should be lowered.

Once those three units (Maraders, MULEs, and Ghosts) are addressed the game will be significantly more balanced.

On PvZ...I still think Toss are simply too lazy and bad to exploit the advantages their race holds over Zerg. For all the bitching over Infestors, Toss are still getting rolled even after 1.4. Learn some new strats.