AdventureRacing
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That's pretty damn awesome, so blizzard finally listened. I wonder what made them suddenly change after announcing that there would be no changes.
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ShallNoiseUpon
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Take out Abyssal and Nerazim and you have an awesome map pool. Wonder if they're going to add 2 new maps (Daybreak would be awesome, and I think they said they wanted to add maps from that mapping contest) to get back up to the number they were at.
I'm sure they mad that decision in 4 days.
syllogism said:
I'm sure they mad that decision in 4 days.
Their post saying they werent going to change the ladder map pool is only 5 days old.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/3424692558
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/3424692558
ShallNoiseUpon
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a176 said:
I think it is most certainly time to put xnc to bed. That map is awful.
odin toelust
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heyf00L said:Too much cheese. But then again if you know that and know how to defend cheese, they're easy wins. Unfortunately, I don't handle cheese well.
same here my drone micro is lacking
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/3780102/Season_4_-_1v1_Ladder_Map_Changes-10_25_2011
Seems like the change in the ladderpool for season 4 is part of a larger move where they intend to move to maps that are oriented towards tournament play. Pretty big change from their previous goal of having the pool split in roughly a third macromaps, a third rushmaps and a third in between. I could see the point of them saying huge maps turn into hide the expansion at the bronze-plat range that 80% of the people ladder services. At the same time I remember back when I was bronze-gold even on small maps the complete lack of map awareness meant expo sneaking happened a ton anyway, and that even at that skill level maps like delta quadrant felt claustrophobicly small. So I don't think it matters for lower leagues that much, and it is such a big improvement for the higher leagues.
Too bad it took them a while to get to this point, but at least they got there and have now made it their stated goal for future seasons as well.
Seems like the change in the ladderpool for season 4 is part of a larger move where they intend to move to maps that are oriented towards tournament play. Pretty big change from their previous goal of having the pool split in roughly a third macromaps, a third rushmaps and a third in between. I could see the point of them saying huge maps turn into hide the expansion at the bronze-plat range that 80% of the people ladder services. At the same time I remember back when I was bronze-gold even on small maps the complete lack of map awareness meant expo sneaking happened a ton anyway, and that even at that skill level maps like delta quadrant felt claustrophobicly small. So I don't think it matters for lower leagues that much, and it is such a big improvement for the higher leagues.
Too bad it took them a while to get to this point, but at least they got there and have now made it their stated goal for future seasons as well.
Haunted
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I guess it depends on whether they will be considered deployable units (siege tanks) or mobile buildings (spores & spines).MrKnives said:
Also, about BW players coming to Blizzcon:
http://twitter.com/#!/Slasher/status/128594485226651649
Also also, completely unrelated but I thought it was funny: Recent twitter exchange between incontrol and Carmac.
Haunted said:
You can, but they wont deal damage until you get out of range with Medivacs. So it should give a few seconds, or more.
Pandaman said:
I do not share your anti-enthusiasm, Shredder is a cool unit, Just make it so that Shredder cant be stacked near each other (they can currently), and it is fine.
Pandaman said:
We both know it will. It will change but you should start thinking about hiding all of the sharp objects in your house.
Also it takes like 6 seconds for the Shredder to deploy so the mineral dropping shouldn't be a problem. Unless all you have is lings and mutas, which is often >_>
It will probably make it to beta, though whether or not it comes out of it is a different story.
They need to take at good look at the new protoss stuff though, Oracle would be decent if they replace entomb with something else but the replicant is going to be insane to balance.
They need to take at good look at the new protoss stuff though, Oracle would be decent if they replace entomb with something else but the replicant is going to be insane to balance.
Haunted
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oh don't act as if they're unbeatable or something.Pandaman said:
You can probably get a good surround on them with Zerglings when you catch them undeployed, just like with siege tanks.
Even if it appears too strong now, there are so many tweaks they can do to make it manageable. Tweak values, make it not attack air, make it so other shredders are also considered friendly units etc etc
Corran Horn
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Its funny I never had Searing Crater veto'ed but I never played on it since like week 1 of ladder since everyone vetoed it.
Was a good 6 gate map
Was a good 6 gate map
I hope shredders stay in. I'm not really paying attention to specific stats (damage, range, deploy time) for any new unit really, since 100% of that will probably change between now and beta, at which point most things will probably change again. But the idea of having more map control units that can just lock down a space, changing up the decisions around where to commit with how much for both offense and defense, seems really neat.
Day[9] likes to talk about those mechanics whenever people ask him what type of units he would like to see added to SC2 and this sounds kind of like that. I think (once balanced) gameplay implications of the shredder for army placement on the map in general and tactically with friendly units moving in or out of range could be really cool.
Day[9] likes to talk about those mechanics whenever people ask him what type of units he would like to see added to SC2 and this sounds kind of like that. I think (once balanced) gameplay implications of the shredder for army placement on the map in general and tactically with friendly units moving in or out of range could be really cool.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
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