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STEAM- Announcements & Updates 2011 Edition |OT2|

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PixyJunket

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HiddenAway said:
Is that confirmed though? I've read the description differently to what everyone else had been talking about over at their forums...
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I'm pretty sure it has been confirmed, plus it's at 0% still, nobody has it.
 
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HiddenAway

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PixyJunket said:
I'm pretty sure it has been confirmed, plus it's at 0% still, nobody has it.
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Do you have a link for that? I scoured the forums for information recently but didn't see any replies to any questions related to that specific achievement (at least not from the moderators/developers)...

Edit: I'm aware it's sitting at 0% at Steam though, which is why I wanted to take a different approach to the achievement - unless someone had explained during the beta how exactly you're supposed to get it.
 
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PixyJunket

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HiddenAway said:
Do you have a link for that? I scoured the forums for information recently but didn't see any replies to any questions related to that specific achievement (at least not from the moderators/developers)...

Edit: I'm aware it's sitting at 0% at Steam though, which is why I wanted to take a different approach to the achievement - unless someone had explained during the beta how exactly you're supposed to get it.
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You're right, there's no reply by the moderators on it specifically from what I can tell.

The general consensus is that it's bugged. What is your different approach?
 
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SensualSeduction

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I don't know if this is the right place to ask,but i need to sell
my steam acc fast,anyone know a marketplace or some sort of thing where you can sell these things ?
 
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HiddenAway

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PixyJunket said:
You're right, there's no reply by the moderators on it specifically from what I can tell.

The general consensus is that it's bugged. What is your different approach?
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Beat the game without losing a battle.

It's a long shot (especially as you have to "flee" one of the battles near the end to advance the story) but felt it was worth a go. Plus, with all the extra HP I'm packing, the points skyrocket for the high score table :)
 
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PixyJunket

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HiddenAway said:
Beat the game without losing a battle.

It's a long shot (especially as you have to "throw" one of the battles near the end to advance the story) but felt it was worth a go. Plus, with all the extra HP I'm packing, the points skyrocket for the high score table :)
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Well, that should be a fun challenge but I'd be wary of it doing anything for the achievement.

My guess is that it's truly bugged or there's a hidden battle nobody has found yet.

Hopefully if it is bugged, the game keeps track of this stat somewhere so you won't have to replay the whole thing once patched.
 
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Card Boy

Banned
Anyone willing to trade a copy of Dungeons of Dredmor for my copy of Magicka? I'm off to bed, but i will be back at 9am AEST (11hrs) , so dont panic if i don't respond to your PM. PM me your Steam ID in the meantime.
 
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kurtrussell

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Hmmm....

I'm throwing a ton of PS3 and PC games I've tired of on eBay tonight. Bought, played, sold, moved on.

Or - I could just buy my games through Steam and when I'm done with them, erm.... hmm.... nothing? They just sit there? I could try and sell my account to someone but then our Valve overlords would just terminate the whole thing as seen above?

Okay, so why is Steam better than physical media again?
 
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CecilRousso

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kurtrussell said:
Hmmm....

I'm throwing a ton of PS3 and PC games I've tired of on eBay tonight. Bought, played, sold, moved on.

Or - I could just buy my games through Steam and when I'm done with them, erm.... hmm.... nothing? They just sit there? I could try and sell my account to someone but then our Valve overlords would just terminate the whole thing as seen above?

Okay, so why is Steam better than physical media again?
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Steam has 20 good sides and 2-3 bad ones. Deal with it.
 
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StuBurns

Banned
It is certainly a down side to Steam, a used market place on there would be good. It's another strong consideration when going to buy a game at launch, if it's not something I'm sure about, I'm more inclined to wait for a big sale, or play it on a console where I can trade it in or sell it. Alice 2 being a recent example, I bought and played it on PS3, then traded it in. If/when it's cheap on sale on Steam I'll probably buy it again.
 
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balladofwindfishes

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kurtrussell said:
Hmmm....

I'm throwing a ton of PS3 and PC games I've tired of on eBay tonight. Bought, played, sold, moved on.

Or - I could just buy my games through Steam and when I'm done with them, erm.... hmm.... nothing? They just sit there? I could try and sell my account to someone but then our Valve overlords would just terminate the whole thing as seen above?

Okay, so why is Steam better than physical media again?
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If you buy a game at 40, and resell it at 20, you've lost 20 dollars. That game has probably been on sale on Steam for 20 dollars a dozen times before, if not lower than 20.

And you'll still have the game at the end of the day.
 
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Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
kurtrussell said:
Hmmm....

I'm throwing a ton of PS3 and PC games I've tired of on eBay tonight. Bought, played, sold, moved on.

Or - I could just buy my games through Steam and when I'm done with them, erm.... hmm.... nothing? They just sit there? I could try and sell my account to someone but then our Valve overlords would just terminate the whole thing as seen above?

Okay, so why is Steam better than physical media again?
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If you're the kind of person who buys something considering resale value (I'm paying $40 for this game, but I expect to get $15-20 back when I resell it, so I'm really only paying $20-25), then you wait for a price drop on Steam equal to the amount of value you think you're losing by not having the ability to resell.

Yes, obviously if you buy something for $40 and sell it for $20, that's better than buying for $40 and letting it rot for $0. But when I bought Kane and Lynch 2 for $5 on Steam (it was $59.99/64.99 at Canadian retail at the time), I didn't expect to get any resale value back when I was done for the game and it was significantly cheaper than the game was on consoles even assuming a best-case scenario for resale.

On a day one level, most Steam games are $44.99 versus $59.99 on consoles. That's how Steam compensates for the loss of resale value for day one games. If that's not enough of a compensation, again, wait for a price drop.

This isn't meant to be a defence, just a factual statement about the fact that your buying habits should reflect the platform's value habits. Games that are worth less to you should be bought for less than games that are worth more to you. Games with no resale value may be worth less to you.

Also, this is not a digital/physical thing, it's a DRM thing. Many physical PC games have been un-resellable for years due to single-use key online activations. If you buy a Steamworks game today physically you can't resell it. It's not about physical/digital.
 
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morningbus

Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
kurtrussell said:
People other than GAFfers buy games. Nobody apart from GAFfers cares about the content distribution mechanism.....
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Shit, are we on one of those bootleg GAFs made by people who've been perm'd? Or are we in the all purpose PC |OT|?

I'm just so confused right now.
 
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Princess Skittles

Prince's's 'Skittle's
kurtrussell said:
People other than GAFfers buy games. Nobody apart from GAFfers cares about the content distribution mechanism.....
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While there may be segments of GAF that certainly fall into this extreme, there are definitely a lot of people out there that are hardcore Steam-only users.
 
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1-D_FTW

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Stumpokapow said:
If you're the kind of person who buys something considering resale value (I'm paying $40 for this game, but I expect to get $15-20 back when I resell it, so I'm really only paying $20-25), then you wait for a price drop on Steam equal to the amount of value you think you're losing by not having the ability to resell.

Yes, obviously if you buy something for $40 and sell it for $20, that's better than buying for $40 and letting it rot for $0. But when I bought Kane and Lynch 2 for $5 on Steam (it was $59.99/64.99 at Canadian retail at the time), I didn't expect to get any resale value back when I was done for the game and it was significantly cheaper than the game was on consoles even assuming a best-case scenario for resale.

On a day one level, most Steam games are $44.99 versus $59.99 on consoles. That's how Steam compensates for the loss of resale value for day one games. If that's not enough of a compensation, again, wait for a price drop.

This isn't meant to be a defence, just a factual statement about the fact that your buying habits should reflect the platform's value habits. Games that are worth less to you should be bought for less than games that are worth more to you. Games with no resale value may be worth less to you.

Also, this is not a digital/physical thing, it's a DRM thing. Many physical PC games have been un-resellable for years due to single-use key online activations. If you buy a Steamworks game today physically you can't resell it. It's not about physical/digital.
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It's not just Steamworks, is it? Aren't most physical PC games unable to be resold nowadays? Heck, even when I was selling my physical PC games 5 years ago, the market on ebay sucked (only made worthwhile because Ebay had yet to demand 50 cents on the dollar for your shit.) It wasn't like console games. I'm guessing most of the people who could use ebay were also pirating. So, yeah, it's more theoretical than anything. PC games don't have resale value. But it's still cheaper than consoles games + resale values as long as you're not Day 1 and have some patience.
 
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gdt

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I don't sell games (except multiple copies), so that doesn't bother me in the least.

But it's certainly a downside for someone who sells a games as soon as he or she completes it.
 
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StuBurns

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The whole Origin vs Steam thing is being misunderstood by a lot of people I think. I don't really want to use Origin, not because I love Steam, but because I have Steam. I don't want to go have to go elsewhere, I'm happy with the service I use.

Right now I'm uneffected. I don't care about TOR or BF3. We'll see what happens with ME3. I'd like Crysis 2, but I don't really care enough.
 
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Chavelo

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kurtrussell said:
Hmmm....

I'm throwing a ton of PS3 and PC games I've tired of on eBay tonight. Bought, played, sold, moved on.

Or - I could just buy my games through Steam and when I'm done with them, erm.... hmm.... nothing? They just sit there? I could try and sell my account to someone but then our Valve overlords would just terminate the whole thing as seen above?

Okay, so why is Steam better than physical media again?
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Yeah, I loved how I could resell my PC games back in the day to the store when I played them for a few weeks...
 
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The Broken Ska Record

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I can understand being apprehensive about buying DD games over physical media, but with Steam I feel that there is a huge benefit because of sales. On average, I've paid about $10-15 on each game. With physical media, I've played about $30-40 for one game. But like Stump said, it's all about perceived value.

Also, I don't mind using Origin for some games. Hell I got Crysis 2 for $20 through Origin, so I can't complain.
 
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Kintaro

Worships the porcelain goddess
Chavelo said:
Yeah, I loved how I could resell my PC games back in the day to the store when I played them for a few weeks...
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Actually, there was a time when you could do this.
 
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Servbot #42

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Btw does anyone knows if Steam unlocks achievements when playing offline? I mostly get access to the internet on the weekends so i have to play offline the rest of the week, which makes me wary of playing games with achievements offline because i would hate them not registering ever.
 
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MRORANGE

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Gexecuter said:
Btw does anyone knows if Steam unlocks achievements when playing offline? I mostly get access to the internet on the weekends so i have to play offline the rest of the week, which makes me wary of playing games with achievements offline because i would hate them not registering ever.
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in most cases no, some games like borderlands automatically added my achievements when I went back on-line and I had a whole list of new achievements.
 
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Stallion Free

Cock Encumbered
Gexecuter said:
Btw does anyone knows if Steam unlocks achievements when playing offline? I mostly get access to the internet on the weekends so i have to play offline the rest of the week, which makes me wary of playing games with achievements offline because i would hate them not registering ever.
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I believe they do as I have random achievements without dates on them similar to achievements on 360 that I got while not hooked up to the Internet.
 
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Princess Skittles

Prince's's 'Skittle's
Gexecuter said:
Btw does anyone knows if Steam unlocks achievements when playing offline? I mostly get access to the internet on the weekends so i have to play offline the rest of the week, which makes me wary of playing games with achievements offline because i would hate them not registering ever.
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For the most part, no. Some games may check for a connection at launch and "sync" anything you've gotten previously, but I beleive most games only check once the achievement is triggered in the game. I think I missed a few Portal 2 achievements since my connection was knocked offline while playing (not that I minded replaying it, naturally).

Stallion Free said:
I believe they do as I have random achievements without dates on them similar to achievements on 360 that I got while not hooked up to the Internet.
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Those are probably from before they started to date-stamp achievements (somewhere neat the end of 2010, I think).
 
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balladofwindfishes

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I bought Half-Life used back in the day when EB Games was closing and shifting over to Gamestop and they were clearing inventory for like 75% off.

Then the code registered on Steam just fine years later.

Thus, I have a used game registered on Steam :)
 
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amdnv

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kurtrussell said:
People other than GAFfers buy games. Nobody apart from GAFfers cares about the content distribution mechanism.....
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You should visit the Steam forum some time. Look up threads on Origin, EA, Crysis 2 and Battlefield 3 exclusivity. People outside of GAF do care.
 
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Ulchie

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Chavelo said:
Dude, you're talking WAY BACK in time. I just meant in the 00s and late 90s. :-(

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Ya, except if you aren't a chump and buy only during sales, you'll pay an average of like $5-$10 a game. Not too worried about resale value lol. I bought Civ5 for $11, LOL. For the most part, the cheapest you find retail games is around $20. After playing them and keeping them for a while, you're lucky to get $10 out of it for a physical copy. When I pay so little for stuff on Steam, why would I care about resale? Furthermore, for PC games, most of the times they have serial keys for online and such so you have to sign up online and can't really resell it at that point anyways. For NHL sports games, they have access codes that deflate the price of what you can resell for.

More and more games are going this way, where the physical copy of the game is basically a keycode and the only way of "selling" the game is to keep making new steam accounts for each game. Just not worth the hassle.
 
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amdnv

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StuBurns said:
We'll see what happens with ME3.
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Since ME2 was already quite a step-down from what I consider a master piece, I'd just skip ME3. I'll get it if it's on Steam, but I won't throw a fit if it isn't.

Honestly, the only game I want so freaking badly that a publisher could use it to bribe me into going elsewhere is Half-Life 3. I'd buy that on Origin. I'd pay $150 for it. They could abuse me financially and physcially, I'd take it. I'd take it all. But I think I'm safe. Half-Life 3 will be on Steam. Some time. In the future.
 
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ROBOKITTYZILLA

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kurtrussell said:
Hmmm....

I'm throwing a ton of PS3 and PC games I've tired of on eBay tonight. Bought, played, sold, moved on.

Or - I could just buy my games through Steam and when I'm done with them, erm.... hmm.... nothing? They just sit there? I could try and sell my account to someone but then our Valve overlords would just terminate the whole thing as seen above?

Okay, so why is Steam better than physical media again?
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When the majority of publishers start requiring online passes you are going to see the trade-in value of retail games drop dramatically as if it wasn't already low enough. That coupled with rising fuel and shipping costs, potential scammers and frauds, and adding another activity to an already busy adult lifestyle, it's gotten to the point that I feel it isn't even worth the hassle anymore.

Bring on the digital distribution future. I am ready!
 
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Corky

Nine out of ten orphans can't tell the difference.
Sigh why haven't I been able to see the steam deal of the day for the past several days?

What's todays?
 
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svegis

Member
mxgt said:
Shattered Horizon is literally dead online.

http://sh-stats.info/

Maybe this will revive it a bit.
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Woah, thank you for that. I remember it's been kind of been a low population game but I did not expect to see 29 as max players. Let's hope this sale gives new interest to it, then! I don't have much word to offer about it if it's good or bad though, sorry.
 
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svegis

Member
New release(pre-purchase):

"Stronghold 3 is now available for Pre-purchase on Steam!

Pre-purchase today and receive the original award-winning Stronghold for free and start playing it right now. In addition to the free game, pre-purchasers will receive an exclusive Tower of London stage which is playable in Stronghold 3."

Available Q3 2011, for 49,99€ and as the quote says, you'll get instant access to the first Stronghold. Synopsis on the 'Tower of London' below.

"Tower of London - Founded in 1066, William the Conqueror built the majestic White Tower that still rises above the Thames. Even though the violent years are long gone, an aura of death and medieval torture remains. "

A very small not so much descriptive picture here:

http://storefront.steampowered.com/v/gfx/apps/47400/extras/toweroflondon1.jpg

edit: Sorry for double post, kind of not sure if it should be a new post or stick it in my previous. Any moderator say otherwise, feel free to correct me!
 
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