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STEAM- Announcements & Updates 2011 Edition |OT2|

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Sblargh

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LovingSteam said:
Wait until the summer sale. Then you will realize that the most addicting part of Steam isn't playing the games you buy, its waiting for the next sale so you can add another game to your list you will never play.
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I wouldn't say "never play", but some games definetly don't get the love they deserve. :(
Too much to play. Funny how I always find time to work tho.
 
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Tenck

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jling84 said:
Nothing confirmed yet but hopefully the summer sale.
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This is going to be my first summer sale. How does it work? Deal announced each day? Or is it regularly, like every hour?
 
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ClovingWestbrook

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Tenck said:
This is going to be my first summer sale. How does it work? Deal announced each day? Or is it regularly, like every hour?
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There are daily deals (5-10) and then there are games that are on sale throughout the entire span. Any games you want, wait to see if they are part of the daily deals and if they aren't, pick them up on the last day. Ex:

You want Dead Space 2. On Monday its reduced from $40 to $30. Wait to see if its part of the daily deals since it will be reduced more. If it isn't then buy it on the last day for $30.
 
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Tenck

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LovingSteam said:
There are daily deals (5-10) and then there are games that are on sale throughout the entire span. Any games you want, wait to see if they are part of the daily deals and if they aren't, pick them up on the last day. Ex:

You want Dead Space 2. On Monday its reduced from $40 to $30. Wait to see if its part of the daily deals since it will be reduced more. If it isn't then buy it on the last day for $30.
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Oh nice, thanks for the quick reply.
 
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gdt

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It would be pretty brilliant to launch the sale Monday, right after everyone gets hooked on free TF2.
 
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zombieshavebrains

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PaulLFC said:
It's an absolutely fantastic game, but if you've never played it before, be prepared for a bit of a learning curve initially. Nothing to great, and there is a sort-of tutorial that pops up context-sensitive tips if you need them initially. Once you get the hang of it though, I don't think there's many games beyond MMOs that can compare for sheer longevity, replayability and addictiveness.

I've put over 150 hours into FM09, 180 in FM10 and around 130 so far on FM11 - time will just disappear once you get the hang of the game. There are so many different ways to play, too. As you say you've not played before, I'd start as either your favourite team, or a powerful team like Barcelona. This'll let you learn the ropes while you have a good side which should ensure unless you make some drastically bad decisions, nothing will go too wrong. Then once you're familiar with the game and looking for more of a challenge, you could take control of a team in one of the lower divisions and try to lead them to the top.

That's without mentioning the custom content available from the official forums - people have created their own leagues such as a world superleague, which could provide even more play time. And then there's the editor, where you could create a team of you and your friends and see how you progress, although this takes a long time because of all the stat editing required.

In short, it's a fantastic game if you have any interest whatsoever in football/soccer. If you're willing to spend a bit of time learning the game, which it does a good job of teaching you, don't hesitate to pick it up - although saying that, it may well go on sale on Steam soon during the Summer sale.
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So playing as Liverpool isn't an option :( I'm a liverpool fan btw. I've never played a Football Manager game but i think if 11 goes on sale i will have to pick it up and see what all the europeans are so damn crazy about.

I try to watch the weekly liverpool game through steaming sites like myp2p.eu or i'll watch whatever games espn3 is showing on the weekends so i consider myself fairly familiar with football. If it doesn't go on sale i guess i'll have to actually pay full price (19.99) for it.
 
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Stallion Free

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SapientWolf said:
The port is so disappointing it's trying to commit suicide. Even Mercs 2 had a better port.
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I'm redownloading Saint's Row 2 in prep for doing co-op with a buddy and I only briefly tried it once before, but color me impressed if they managed to make a worse port than Mercenaries 2.
 
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Echoplx

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SapientWolf said:
The port is so disappointing it's trying to commit suicide. Even Mercs 2 had a better port.
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Saints Row 2 port is way better then Mercs 2, why are you out on some kind of crusade against SR2?
 
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Gvaz

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They're both subpar to Just Cause 2, which is 5 bux and can be redeemed on steam and is a much better game.
 
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Echoplx

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Gvaz said:
They're both subpar to Just Cause 2, which is 5 bux and can be redeemed on steam and is a much better game.
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They're both great games, can't really directly compare the two imo.
 
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Blizzard

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3chopl0x said:
They're both great games, can't really directly compare the two imo.
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The style and gameplay may be far different and both good, but as for ports Just Cause 2 is probably one of the best PC ports I've ever played. From what people say...Saints Row 2 is not. I own SR2 but haven't tried it.
 
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Stallion Free

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Just Cause 2 is incredible on like every level, except co-op. Which Saint's Row 2 has. I'm getting pretty hyped because of the hate on the port right now.
 
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The Broken Ska Record

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As far as ports go, not gameplay, Just Cause 2 is miles, MILES better than Saint's Row 2. I could run JC2 on Medium settings and get about 25-30 fps on my old card. On my old card, SR2 would run at 15fps with everything on low. Not to mention if I set the shadows to High, everything looks translucent.
 
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Glass Rebel

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Hey GAF, does anybody know how the old Fallout games on Steam compare to the GOG versions? If they're the same, I'd rather have them on my Steam account, thanks!
 
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SapientWolf

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3chopl0x said:
Saints Row 2 port is way better then Mercs 2, why are you out on some kind of crusade against SR2?
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I'm just telling it like it is. SR2 is unplayable on my rig. Mercs 2 runs max'd out at a locked 60fps @ 4xAA/1080p.
 
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Visualante

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Glass Rebel said:
Hey GAF, does anybody know how the old Fallout games on Steam compare to the GOG versions? If they're the same, I'd rather have them on my Steam account, thanks!
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Just the gross difference in price I think
 
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Echoplx

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SapientWolf said:
I'm just telling it like it is. SR2 is unplayable on my rig. Mercs 2 runs max'd out at a locked 60fps @ 4xAA/1080p.
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Your not telling it like it is, your trying to pass your own experience off as fact.
 
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SapientWolf

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3chopl0x said:
Your not telling it like it is, your trying to pass your own experience off as fact.
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Don't just take my word for it:

...I was getting performance around the 15-20 fps mark which I don't think is particularly acceptable in 2009 for such a decent gaming PC. Clearly developers recently feel we should all be running Skulltrail with 3 280 GTXs in SLI to get acceptable performance from our console ports!

Graphically, the game is a disaster. Sure they look nice on still frames, but the whole experience is a rushed and half assed effort which results in a half assed game.

Saints Row 2 is basically the same core game that was on the 360 and Ps3, but it has suffered from a shoddy, half assed port which has all but ruined the experience for PC users. Only if you lower a lot of the graphical niceties does the game speed up to become playable, but you begin to wonder why a machine with almost four times the power of the aging 360 console struggles to keep framerates high. Only those with a ludicrously expensive PC need apply."
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Gaming Heaven

The technical shortcomings are the only truly bad part of Saints Row 2, and, sadly for PC gamers, it pretty much kills their experience unless they can play with the bulk of the visual settings turned down or off. Not doing so ruins your gameplay experience.

What does that translate to in terms of quality? A crazy good time. Or at least, what would have been a crazy good time if not for the game's poor coding on PC. For whatever reason the PC version absolutely chugs. Even on my Intel Core2Quad 2.4 GHz with 2GB RAM, an Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX, and a Vista 32 operating system, the game ran between twenty and seven frames per second and had a host of other performance issues. In other words, it was nauseating and almost unplayable. The core gameplay is the same, but the general performance basically kills the experience.
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IGN

Unleashing unprovoked havoc on the streets of Stilwater can be as much fun on the PC as it was on consoles, but while the core elements have made the transition intact, the visuals have taken a serious hit. On a PC that exceeds the recommended requirements, Saints Row 2 has a choppy frame rate and jarring pop-in that make driving around this busy metropolis a pain. The forgiving driving physics make it possible to get from one point to another without too many of crashes, but vehicles and even buildings pop in and out of view with regularity, and any element that requires precise maneuvering will torment all but the most patient players.
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Unreal849 said:
This game is broken. Completely broken. A few people can run it ok, but most people can't. My copy of the game is absolutely unplayable. Now, according to Steam's listed specs, I should be able to run the game fine. My PC is a 3.0ghz Core 2 Duo, 2g DDR2, and a Geforce 8800gts 512m card. So it's the game and not my rig. Therefore, Steam should give refunds to people who can't play the game as advertised. Saints Row 2 is the WORST port I have ever seen in my twenty+ years of gaming. Steam knows this. It's false advertising and bad business practice to lie to their customers by not putting a clear warning on the game's steam page. I've already sent a email demanding a refund and I encourage those of you who have similar issues to do the same. Since Volition won't fix the game, Steam should either post a clear warning label on it, or remove the game entirely from the Steam service.
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Steam should give a refund for Saints Row 2

etc.
 
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Sinatar

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I dunno, SR2 runs butter smooth on my rig (which is pretty beastly mind you) so your mileage will vary.
 
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Xapati

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Gvaz said:
Yeah SR2 is pretty much renown everywhere for being a horrible port in terms of performance.
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Okay, now I got SR2 for free when I pre-ordered Chaos Rising way back. I recently played it on a machine I built this Spring, so I have an Athlon Quad Core and a GTX 460. I hate gangster games, so I didn't play it for long, but for the 30 minutes I played it, the game ran very smooth.
 
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Aselith

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Xapati said:
Okay, now I got SR2 for free when I pre-ordered Chaos Rising way back. I recently played it on a machine I built this Spring, so I have an Athlon Quad Core and a GTX 460. I hate gangster games, so I didn't play it for long, but for the 30 minutes I played it, the game ran very smooth.
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I think the problem was that the performance that you got wasn't equal to what you would get in a properly optimized game with comparable hardware. Meaning framerates were far too low for the quality of graphics vs the performance you were getting. The game came out at least two years ago probably much more so of course you'll do alright on a good system now.

Even the worst optimized game will run decently on an overkill system. Sort of like GTA 4 which ran like shit on even great systems when it came out. Now it does fine because the systems are more powerful and they've had some time to smooth it out a bit.

If you have to have a bleeding edge system to run a 360 port at decent framerates there's something wrong. Your system isn't bleeding edge of course now but back when the game came out it was future tech or bleeding edge at the least.
 
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Aegus

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Oh man. I've been out of the PC gaming loop for a few years like 5 years, but I was keeping up with the Steam sales over the years. So now that I've got a new gaming PC I've been downloading all the games I've got on sale. Downloaded like 30GB+ in the past 18 hours.
 
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Sinatar

Official GAF Bottom Feeder
Aselith said:
I think the problem was that the performance that you got wasn't equal to what you would get in a properly optimized game with comparable hardware. Meaning framerates were far too low for the quality of graphics vs the performance you were getting. The game came out at least two years ago probably much more so of course you'll do alright on a good system now.

Even the worst optimized game will run decently on an overkill system. Sort of like GTA 4 which ran like shit on even great systems when it came out. Now it does fine because the systems are more powerful and they've had some time to smooth it out a bit.

If you have to have a bleeding edge system to run a 360 port at decent framerates there's something wrong. Your system isn't bleeding edge of course now but back when the game came out it was future tech or bleeding edge at the least.
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There is no doubt that it's a dogshit sandwich of a port, but some folks here are blowing it a little out of proportion.
 
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SapientWolf

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Sinatar said:
There is no doubt that it's a dogshit sandwich of a port, but some folks here are blowing it a little out of proportion.
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If that's the case, I wouldn't mind seeing a few FRAPS SR2 screenshots with a framerate counter in the corner.
 
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Ledsen

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markot said:
How come its 16:9 and 16:10?

Shouldnt it be 8:5?! I mean its 4:3 not 16:12!
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16:9 can't be further divided into integers, and 16:10 is probably for easier comparison to 16:9.
 
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