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[fantomena]

Anyone gonna get Outlast on launch?

UPlay would be okay with options. If you want to use UPlay, buy the game on UPlay, if you don't, buy the game on Steam or get it DRM-free on GOG.

And Is till don't see why EA don't want to release their games on Steam. They have had many sales on Steam the past 2 months meaning they get a lot of money from Steam.

 

[nexen]

Im so damn addicted to Roguelikes (Spelunky, Rogue Legacy, FTL and Binding of Isaac).

Give Sword of the Stars: The Pit a try. It's boss.

 

[Glass Rebel]

still no extra games on the origin humble bundle?


fucking racists!

 

[Grief.exe]

New Dark Souls multiplayer footage, skip to 7 minutes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06LutF-ZxEg

uplay is the new gfwl.

We need to focus on Uplay next.

Get Ubisoft to remove it from new Steam games, just have those versions exist by themselves.

Im so damn addicted to Roguelikes (Spelunky, Rogue Legacy, FTL and Binding of Isaac).

Check out teleglitch.

 

[AHA-Lambda]

I want to buy Blacklist, but I really don't want to have it on UPlay.

tough unfortunately, you want it on pc that's what you get.

 

[Eanan]

Which was worse? Tages or GFWL?

 

[Buttonbasher]

Which was worse? Tages or GFWL?

Tages.

 

[XShagrath]

So, what's the going rate for Rocksmith 2014 in keys? I'm definitely interested in picking this up at launch, but hopefully not for $60.

How difficult is it to get into the Steam Prison Economy? Or is there a reliable middle-man now that Dunder is out of business?

 

[AHA-Lambda]

Which was worse? Tages or GFWL?

Tages. Correct me if I'm wrong but GFWL never forced limited activations on you.

 

[JaseC]

Which was worse? Tages or GFWL?

StarForce.

 

[fantomena]

Which was worse? Tages or GFWL?

Tages. I bought Riddick from GOG because Steam used Tages (when Riddick was available on Steam).

 

[DukeBobby]

I never had to deal with Tages. What was so bad about it?

 

[MMBosstones86]

still no extra games on the origin humble bundle?


fucking racists!

I wonder if they underestimated the popularity of the bundle. Seeing it has so much success with the current group, maybe they don't see the need to add the extra games?

 

[dark_inferno]

I wonder if they underestimated the popularity of the bundle. Seeing it has so much success with the current group, maybe they don't see the need to add the extra games?

Maybe. Could also be that they add a few bonus games in a few hours because of some problems.

 

[Dice]

Where do we go from here?

The cookies have bought my soul...

 

[Nabs]

I never had to deal with Tages. What was so bad about it?

Ever replace a graphics card? Well, now you can only install the game 2 more times.

 

[HoosTrax]

I wonder if they underestimated the popularity of the bundle. Seeing it has so much success with the current group, maybe they don't see the need to add the extra games?

I only felt the need to pay $1. Didn't see anything worth shelling out extra for the BTA games for. If they add additional stuff that have Steam keys, I'd bump up my donation.

 

[JaseC]

I never had to deal with Tages. What was so bad about it?

It can cause driver/boot issues and the hardware-based portion of it is ridiculously restrictive -- when benchmarking Anno 2070, Guru3D had to request more activations from Ubi because the GPU changes were requiring re-activation of the game.

Edit: The fun part of that Guru3D story is that Ubi initially refused.

 

[NaM]

StarForce.

Nothing, NOTHING can beat this. StarForce was the worst DRM that ever graced PC gaming.

 

[Dog Problems]

I never had to deal with Tages. What was so bad about it?

Tages doesn't allow a person to revoke activations like SecuROM does. Although, I do think some games got their activations back after so many days. I might be thinking of a different DRM.

 

[rainking187]

I wonder if they've considered removing GFWL from Bulletstorm if it is one of the bonus games.

 

[Miker]

I wonder if they've considered removing GFWL from Bulletstorm if it is one of the bonus games.

If they do, they'll replace GFWL with Origin

 

[DexterPepper]

Where do we go from here?

The cookies have bought my soul...

Ha. Descending order, multiples of 5. It's the only way to win.

You've already won.

 

[Turfster]

I wonder if they've considered removing GFWL from Bulletstorm if it is one of the bonus games.

That would imply them caring and having known about it in advance.
Probably not going to happen any time soon, if ever.

 

[fantomena]

Nothing, NOTHING can beat this. StarForce was the worst DRM that ever graced PC gaming.

What did it do?

 

[Turfster]

What did it do?

Kill systems.

 

[NaM]

What did it do?

It installed a driver in your windows machine, sometimes it will bsod just because. And you can't uninstall it. Format c: was the best solution, no joke.

 

[Baron von Loathsome]

What did it do?

It's not the best source, but quoted from TVTropes:

StarForce, another Copy Protection program. It was so poorly written that upon installation, it would open huge holes in security, crash the computer's OS (Windows Vista in particular would require a reinstall) and could break the disk drive's hardware. For example, it would disable SCSI drives because it assumed any SCSI drive was a virtual CD/DVD drive (as did the OS itself). It doesn't help that newer hard drives and DVD drives use a Serial ATA connection, which resembles SCSI closely enough that operating systems list SATA drives as SCSI.

 

[JaseC]

Also, in StarForce's hey-day, it was only possible to remove the driver if the publisher had implemented the option in the game's installer -- there was no uninstall utility at the time, so once installed it was there forever*.

* For a long time.

 

[fantomena]

It installed a driver in your windows machine, sometimes it will bsod just because. And you can't uninstall it. Format c: was the best solution, no joke.

Holy shit. DRM BSODed PCs? Damn.

 

[Crayons]

Who could be so evil? I've never heard of it until now, what games used it?

 

[HoosTrax]

While we're on the subject, I recall Civilization I having a somewhat esoteric attempt at "DRM", where I think the game would periodically throw out quiz-style questions, and the answers could only be found in the paper manual. I suppose it was to discourage people from giving copies of the game to their friends, in the days when Internet service was still not widely available and thus sharing a pdf of the manual wasn't feasible.

 

[Glass Rebel]

I wonder if they underestimated the popularity of the bundle. Seeing it has so much success with the current group, maybe they don't see the need to add the extra games?

Or maybe they won't any extra games at all because they don't want to devalue them.

 

[JaseC]

Who could be so evil? I've never heard of it until now, what games used it?

Worms 4 comes to mind. I distinctly remember not being able to play the game and ultimately had to wait almost a year for a "scene group" to crack it.

 

[hlhbk]

So when I turned in my 3ds I was able to get $90 to add to my Steam wallet. I may already have them but what are the best games with a great story on Steam. Think of titles that aren't super popular that someone may not have heard of?

 

[NaM]

Who could be so evil? I've never heard of it until now, what games used it?

King Kong was the one that did it for me, the game was worth it though

Spoiler

not really

 

[Baron von Loathsome]

Who could be so evil? I've never heard of it until now, what games used it?

Google says Chaos Theory, Still Life, Sudeki, TrackMania and TrackMania: Sunrise, X2: The Threat, and UFO: Aftermath, to name the few I recognized.

 

[JaseC]

So when I turned in my 3ds I was able to get $90 to add to my Steam wallet. I may already have them but what are the best games with a great story on Steam. Think of titles that aren't super popular that someone may not have heard of?

To the Moon is apparently a great narrative experience and it's on sale at this very moment.

 

[dark_inferno]

So when I turned in my 3ds I was able to get $90 to add to my Steam wallet. I may already have them but what are the best games with a great story on Steam. Think of titles that aren't super popular that someone may not have heard of?

Thomas was alone, Spec Ops The Line, Binary Domain, Alan Wake, Max Payne 1+2,DLC Quest,Papers Please and many others.

Edit: Waking Mars, Walking Dead,Amnesia,Cthulhu Saves the World (Yeah i liked the Story),Hotline Miami

 

[Turfster]

While we're on the subject, I recall Civilization I having a somewhat esoteric attempt at "DRM"

Monkey Island's Dial A Pirate wheel goes here.

But yeah, manual lookup DRM was very common in ye olden days. This went from looking up words on page X line Y word Z to whole recipes you had to use in the game to be able to continue, to "hidden" text you could only see with a special colored filter.

Who could be so evil? I've never heard of it until now, what games used it?

A lot of Eastern European companies still seem to be using it, but a lot of big releases from 2001-2006 used it.

 

[nexen]

While we're on the subject, I recall Civilization I having a somewhat esoteric attempt at "DRM", where I think the game would periodically throw out quiz-style questions, and the answers could only be found in the paper manual. I suppose it was to discourage people from giving copies of the game to their friends, in the days when Internet service was still not widely available and thus sharing a pdf of the manual wasn't feasible.

That was standard practice back in the day.

Code wheels, manual word look-ups, and paragraph books.

I hated paragraph books.

edit: beated by fellow geezer.

 

[Crayons]

Google says Chaos Theory, Still Life, Sudeki, TrackMania and TrackMania: Sunrise, X2: The Threat, and UFO: Aftermath, to name the few I recognized.

Damn, I have Chaos Theory and Still Life. Never knew they used to use that awful DRM.

 

[Glass Rebel]

So when I turned in my 3ds I was able to get $90 to add to my Steam wallet. I may already have them but what are the best games with a great story on Steam. Think of titles that aren't super popular that someone may not have heard of?

you done effed up at that price

 

[jaundicejuice]

uPlay is an annoyance but it's not epically terrible on the same level as GFWL, TAGES, SecuROM or Starforce.

 

[hlhbk]

To the Moon is apparently a great narrative experience and it's on sale at this very moment.

It is great.

 

[Turfster]

uPlay is an annoyance but it's not epically terrible on the same level as GFWL, TAGES, SecuROM or Starforce.

I am still locked out of uplay after their hacking fiasco.

 

[JaseC]

Half-Life was the first game I ever played that required a CD key. I distinctly recall finding a spare rental copy at the semi-local video store and being super excited when I got home, only to get stumped when it came time to find the bloody thing. I believe the CD keys were removed from the CD cases, since people were prone to breaking them, and instead were affixed to manuals, however in my case this hadn't been done and so I had no way of installing the game as the store didn't have any spare copies to lift keys from.

I eventually did get the game for my birthday the following year, though. I remember that day so vividly.

It is great.

And rather short, too, IIRC. I really ought to play it one day.

 

[hlhbk]

Thomas was alone, Spec Ops The Line, Binary Domain, Alan Wake, Max Payne 1+2,DLC Quest,Papers Please and many others.

Edit: Waking Mars, Walking Dead,Amnesia,Cthulhu Saves the World (Yeah i liked the Story),Hotline Miami

Huh I never though Binary Domain would be on this list. I played like the first 2 missions and never saw much of a narrative. Does it come later?

 

[rainking187]

Thomas was alone, Spec Ops The Line, Binary Domain, Alan Wake, Max Payne 1+2,DLC Quest,Papers Please and many others.

Edit: Waking Mars, Walking Dead,Amnesia,Cthulhu Saves the World (Yeah i liked the Story),Hotline Miami

Worth mentioning that he can get both Thomas Was Alone and Amnesia in the weekly Humble Bundle.

 

[JaseC]

Alice: Madness Returns has a rather nice story if you're one for subtext and metaphor. The dialogue is well-written, too.