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STEAM | April 2017 - Fly me to the Moon
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exmachina64
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yea think of the possibilities, I think jaw is up to something but maaaan
I mean, it's a countdown and its not over. What exactly did you want an update on before the date its supposed to end?
I meant like any rumors of what it could be
i dont want to get excited over sega porting over a mobile game
Father_Brain
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Well, there isn't any Bayonetta mobile game to port...
It's Bayonetta. Expect the first game ported and you'll be fine. Expect more than that and you will probably...not be fine.
pantsattack
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That's not Jim Sterling. You can't even see his name. Do not trust
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wok
DunderHassan
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So, I played Inside and wow was it incredibly boring.
Amazing animations, good atmosphere, but damn was it boring and there was no challenge whatsoever.
Literally ran through it like nothing... fuck that stupid back and forth "puzzle" design, zzz.
Endgame spoiler:
Since I don't want to play this game one second more than needed, can someone list the checkpoints for every secret in the game?
Got a few of them, but really couldn't bother to explore and I won't.
Amazing animations, good atmosphere, but damn was it boring and there was no challenge whatsoever.
Literally ran through it like nothing... fuck that stupid back and forth "puzzle" design, zzz.
Endgame spoiler:
Anyone else thought about Akira when playing as that blob of human flesh?
Since I don't want to play this game one second more than needed, can someone list the checkpoints for every secret in the game?
Got a few of them, but really couldn't bother to explore and I won't.
You're not the only one. I really didn't understand why this game got so much attention.
Wok
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Steam Guides for the win. For instance: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=719584981
DunderHassan
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Yeah won't ever understand it either.
Sure for liking the atmosphere and such, but it's nowhere close a 9/10 game, no creativity at all.
Just want to make sure before I enter the page, no spoilers for solving the secrets?
Wok
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It is a detailed walkthrough. 😱
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DunderHassan
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I'm surprised there isn't an "Is this Nvidia update safe" OT shrug
On a side note, got a bit through Metro Last Light, is this game fully stealthable, at least for human segments? I am appreciating that the stealth seems to be more "wide" even though it's still very tunneled, still the AI is hilariously silly, but it seems solid enough and it doesn't have GIANT WHITE ARROWS every 5 ft to show me my one true path to stealth.
On a side note, got a bit through Metro Last Light, is this game fully stealthable, at least for human segments? I am appreciating that the stealth seems to be more "wide" even though it's still very tunneled, still the AI is hilariously silly, but it seems solid enough and it doesn't have GIANT WHITE ARROWS every 5 ft to show me my one true path to stealth.
Oh man, are you in for a treat.
Random aside, holy crap that game is a screenshot machine. I just can't stop F12'ing every 5 minutes!
For what it is worth:
Embargo ends on Monday for some reason.
No.
No no no no no.
No.
I do not have any more time in my schedule for yet another game.
(That feeling when you go to put a game on your Wishlist and it's already Wishlisted.)
The larger, human-only levels are 100% stealth capable. There are a few sequences towards the end where you have to fight, but you'll know them when you see them.
Purchasing, you mean? EVGA doesn't sell stuff directly via the AU store, unfortunately. Literally everything is either "auto-notify" or lacking a buy button.
Yeah, I went with an EVGA FE specifically because of international warranty, so aside from the cost of shipping the card to the repair centre, I'll be covered.
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
Someone photoshop Saoirse with the dumb Snapchat glasses.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
jase is there a saoirse version of jennifer lawrence's yeah ok gif so i can smite the unbeliever in the power of snapchat spectacles?
I haven't played it since I spent some time with it around launch. Might be time to fire it up again.
Freeza Under The Shower
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If it wasn't Jasec I would ask how or why anyone would know that.
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
Atraveller
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morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
🎼 Saoirse Ronan
exmachina64
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🎼 Saoirse Ronan
What is that from?
Wok
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An ad for Coke and Springles?
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Reality Bites.
Rockin' Ranger
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Same here, I haven't been incredibly impressed by either Limbo or Inside. They're okay, but I don't think I'll ever understand all the love they get.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I beat Quern. I think if you like the puzzles of a Myst-a-like, you'll really like this. It's a very meaty game, easily as long as a Myst game or Obduction. Unlike those games the puzzles are somewhat self-contained -- no overarching meta-puzzle you're trying to solve. Not really self-contained; you are moving around a world and discovering lots of puzzles, some of which you're able to solve and some of which you aren't, and then as you solve puzzles you'll tug at the right loose threads to get items that can give you leverage on other puzzles. But unlike a Myst game, it doesn't feel like you're assembling anything macro-level. There are a wide number of puzzle types, and all of them are pretty good (there was a sound puzzle near the end that I found a little wonky, but besides that it's all good). The soundtrack is also excellent! There's an in-game note functionality which is good for some puzzles but I still went through 8 or 9 pages of notes to beat the game.
I think relative to the very best in the genre, it has two key limitations:
1) Although it has some nice environments, the world is not as beautiful as a Cyan Worlds game or others from among the top of the genre. Much of this stems from the fact that the bulk of the game takes place in a highly desaturated, almost grey world. This is intentional, but it just doesn't have the great feel of a Cyan world.
2) It seems like they started making a "dead world" game, where you mostly take in a world and plot is conveyed through the scattered letter, but then at some point they decided they wanted a narrative. The narrative takes the form of an extremely annoying fairy thing that shows up and just talks at you for extended period of time, locking your camera controls. This culminates in a 6-7 minute long plot dump at about the 80% mark. The ending sequence also has a bunch of unskippable plot stuff. I have no idea how this didn't flag in testing or focus grouping. It's very very clearly a failure of the game.
Anyway, I do recommend it for people who like the genre. Performance was good on my not great rig (SSD, 770, decent RAM and processor, ran at 1660x900 with all settings on max or near max at >60fps; 1920x1080 was more like 45-50fps for me).
I think relative to the very best in the genre, it has two key limitations:
1) Although it has some nice environments, the world is not as beautiful as a Cyan Worlds game or others from among the top of the genre. Much of this stems from the fact that the bulk of the game takes place in a highly desaturated, almost grey world. This is intentional, but it just doesn't have the great feel of a Cyan world.
2) It seems like they started making a "dead world" game, where you mostly take in a world and plot is conveyed through the scattered letter, but then at some point they decided they wanted a narrative. The narrative takes the form of an extremely annoying fairy thing that shows up and just talks at you for extended period of time, locking your camera controls. This culminates in a 6-7 minute long plot dump at about the 80% mark. The ending sequence also has a bunch of unskippable plot stuff. I have no idea how this didn't flag in testing or focus grouping. It's very very clearly a failure of the game.
3) Kickstarter backers have messages written on a wall in the ending area and most of them are dumb memes or I WILL LUV U 5EVER garbage. Ugh.
Anyway, I do recommend it for people who like the genre. Performance was good on my not great rig (SSD, 770, decent RAM and processor, ran at 1660x900 with all settings on max or near max at >60fps; 1920x1080 was more like 45-50fps for me).
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AHA-Lambda
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Same, the fuss Inside and Limbo gets just baffles me.
Limbo at least was fairly novel at its release.
i loved inside, i think the trial and error-y stuff from limbo feels a lot more bullshitty 6 years later, but despite of that i enjoyed what it put me through, there's some really inventive puzzles that are a big step up from limbo, even if they feel kind of artificial considering how realistic everything else is, and the final sequence is one of the most disturbing things i've ever seen in a videogame
overall the game is such a freaking impressive display of craftmanship, learning it was made in unity just fucking blew my mind
anywho, stuck in the last boss in odallus cos fuck that guy
overall the game is such a freaking impressive display of craftmanship, learning it was made in unity just fucking blew my mind
anywho, stuck in the last boss in odallus cos fuck that guy
AHA-Lambda
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Dusk Golem
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Here's a personal thought on INSIDE.
One thing I think has more truth to it than is often cited is that different personality types (of the Myers-Briggs variety I am referencing in this instance) seek different things in their gameplay experience. Here's a few charts of many to demonstrate such aspects (Each has much more information on it but for this post I'm going to keep it a bit simple):
The idea behind these images is that being a certain personality type makes it far more likely to actively enjoy and seek 'pleasure' in games from different faucets, IE your personality is more likely to enjoy games of a certain kind. INSIDE would very specifically in the above charts fit into Feeling/Perceiving (Wanderer), Internal/Changing (Idealist), and Environment/Interaction (Explorer). Which is to say that the people who would enjoy INSIDE more would be those with strong Intuitive/Feeling personalities over Thinking/Judging, as an example. Because the game isn't really challenging, it's more made as an atmospheric mood piece, which is what some gamers specifically want but others may find it dull, and it comes down to what players are seeking in a game which often can be traced at least in part to a person's personality type.
I think this deserves to be mentioned more, since there isn't a single game for everyone. Where INSIDE succeeds is it strikes heavily with the audience it's aimed at, though it might not do much for those it's not aimed at. INSIDE is a very easy case to put this in as the game is a very focused experience on certain faucets of game design.
One thing I think has more truth to it than is often cited is that different personality types (of the Myers-Briggs variety I am referencing in this instance) seek different things in their gameplay experience. Here's a few charts of many to demonstrate such aspects (Each has much more information on it but for this post I'm going to keep it a bit simple):
The idea behind these images is that being a certain personality type makes it far more likely to actively enjoy and seek 'pleasure' in games from different faucets, IE your personality is more likely to enjoy games of a certain kind. INSIDE would very specifically in the above charts fit into Feeling/Perceiving (Wanderer), Internal/Changing (Idealist), and Environment/Interaction (Explorer). Which is to say that the people who would enjoy INSIDE more would be those with strong Intuitive/Feeling personalities over Thinking/Judging, as an example. Because the game isn't really challenging, it's more made as an atmospheric mood piece, which is what some gamers specifically want but others may find it dull, and it comes down to what players are seeking in a game which often can be traced at least in part to a person's personality type.
I think this deserves to be mentioned more, since there isn't a single game for everyone. Where INSIDE succeeds is it strikes heavily with the audience it's aimed at, though it might not do much for those it's not aimed at. INSIDE is a very easy case to put this in as the game is a very focused experience on certain faucets of game design.
spindoctor
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I enjoyed Inside. Really well crafted, immersive game with a lot of polish. I also thought it was overrated.
DunderHassan
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Does anyone even fully understand the story?
A bunch of stuff that doesn't really make sense to me, but then I couldn't really concentrate many times when it was just "press right" for long sections.
Though I agree that the world is very well-made, even if it lacks creativity, the fantastic animations and toned down, dark and ambient music helped a lot for immersion.
oipic
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Very nice post, Dusk - respective personality types and their 'fit' and inclination to click with certain games (or genres, for that matter) is a point that is grossly overlooked.
Some titles might appeal to a larger cross section of personality types than others, but some will obviously be more tightly aligned (and catered) to a certain type of gamer, and what they seek in an experience - which is a point so often overlooked in reviews of games (or any subjective experience, really). Thankfully, there are bountiful choices for all types.
This is one of the reasons I so dearly love this community here, as I feel we have a healthily broad representation of personalities. I've come to know those who are more similar to me in their thoughts on games, life, and whatever else, who provide a familiar outlook and a relatable reference point. Just as appreciated and valued are those who differ markedly, and offer insight and perspectives that I wouldn't otherwise see.
As for Inside, I feel it's something I'm very likely to enjoy (INFJ here).
LurkerPrime
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I'd say yes. It's a huge improvement over vanilla. Early-, mid-, or late-game, you'll feel the effects of Utopia.
Although with Paradox games, it's always worth waiting for more content too. It's the Paradox paradox.
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