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Steam Holiday Sales 2014 |OT3| : DIE HARDEREST (HAPPY NEW YEAR WOOHOO!!)

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denx

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Likewise, I trust Steam's "if our service ever goes down forever, you can download the games you still need" promise as opposed to Origin's "you aren't buying the game, just renting a license" schtick.

That supposed quote from Valve has been floating around for ages but I've still yet to see anyone actually finding the source of the quote or posting a link to it.

Seems like a myth at this point.
 
I was hoping Crusader Kings II would go down further, but it looks like 50% off is all I'm going to get. Has it historically been cheaper than this?

Yeah $5 is a good price, plus it has been in a couple of bundles. You can do better (but if you really want it, you will get your money's worth)
 

JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
That supposed quote from Valve has been floating around for ages but I've still yet to see anyone actually finding the source of the quote or posting a link to it.

Seems like a myth at this point.

The post doesn't exist any more. It disappeared along with the original SPUF board.
 

dani_dc

Member
I was hoping Crusader Kings II would go down further, but it looks like 50% off is all I'm going to get. Has it historically been cheaper than this?

It's been 75% off during the sale, you must have missed it.
It's also a game that goes on sale every other month.
 
I've gone through a good thirty heirs in Rogue Legacy in about an hour and a half. I absolutely suck at this game, yet I love the hell out of it.

Don't Starve is something else. Great, yet I havent a goddamn idea what to do after three nights of fires and berries.
 

Sajjaja

Member
I've gone through a good thirty heirs in Rogue Legacy in about an hour and a half. I absolutely suck at this game, yet I love the hell out of it.

Don't Starve is something else. Great, yet I havent a goddamn idea what to do after three nights of fires and berries.

You find the piggies and cows and take their poop.
 
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EA wants to look at your porn dude.

LOL

Just letting you know developers can push anything they want independently from Valve.

This was said before Steam began selling third-party games. I trust that Valve would remove CEG from its own games but the matter of third-party titles would be left up their respective publishers (although that raises the question of what happens to titles that have been abandoned, like, say, Deadpool), plus there's this in the SSA:

True, and I'm not saying Steam is perfect. Just that I'm willing to deal with Steam's perceived negatives than Origin's demonstrated ones.

So it's just a double standard. I mean, I guess you know this about Steam, wherein you're only under the impression Origin does anything other than look for the mere existence of some files. Where else is it taking information based on your computer if not just scanning your computer's registry.. which would be outside of Steam's own folder? I think you're a little wide-eyed if you're under the impression major digital distribution services are able to indefinitely assure you access to everything for the end of time.

For the simple fact that Steam has been around for a full decade, and we've never seen any evidence of them doing such a thing, yet Origin's shortcomings have been well-documented, such as:

- it tracks changes you make to single-player game files for no real reason
- forces you to be online (no offline mode)
- software stays on the hard drive indefinitely, even after you uninstall it
- scans your PC when you install it
- sells info about users' computing habits to third parties

I think you may be the one who's wide-eyed if you honestly believe Origin is any better than Steam. I'm not saying digital distribution is perfect, as it is subject to plenty of problems, but I'll take the established warhorse over the young upstart.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
The post doesn't exist any more. It disappeared along with the original SPUF board.

Well you (and to a smaller extent me and others with...questionable sized libraries) are at least living proof that u can still download games that have been long gone

Hell I just downloaded Blur and Neverwinter Nights 2 the other day

Edit: that FFXIV gif is amazing
 

hitmon

Member
Sadly I have zero cards, well except the (worthless) Summer Getaway cards. I only crafted one Winter 2013 badge and have been selling the rest. :(



I'm not sure how to do that. And yeah, completely missed the 'Gift Purchase' option not one but BOTH times, lol. I emailed Humble support but who knows how long that might take. Any idea how to do what you're talking about?

I sent you a PM with a workaround, but humble support will hopefully be able to sort you out.
 

Eusis

Member
That supposed quote from Valve has been floating around for ages but I've still yet to see anyone actually finding the source of the quote or posting a link to it.

Seems like a myth at this point.
What I suspect will happen is that Valve will remove it from their own games, and third parties who agree to do so will as well. But those who don't care, those who actively do not want their games to go DRM free, or whatever will not play ball and those games will end up needing to be cracked. Valve may well be big enough now though that I can imagine Third parties may want to band together to run the Steam service themselves, as their own form of DRM at a minimum. But that'd probably end up being a gradual slide for one reason or another.
 

denx

Member
The post doesn't exist any more. It disappeared along with the original SPUF board.

But like you said, it most likely refers to Valve's own games. Although I'm sure that in the case Steam goes down there will be the biggest shitstorm of our time over people's non-functioning libraries, so publishers will have to do something about it.

Well you (and to a smaller extent me and others with...questionable sized libraries) are at least living proof that u can still download games that have been long gone

Hell I just downloaded Blur and Neverwinter Nights 2 the other day

Yeah, but it is an entirely different matter if Steam goes poof.

edit: damn you and your foils. I never get those :(
 
I have been hoping for like a 75% to 90% off RTCW (starts at $10).

I lost my original copy years ago but think even 5 bucks is too much.
 
I was hoping Crusader Kings II would go down further, but it looks like 50% off is all I'm going to get. Has it historically been cheaper than this?

There was also the Paradox Pack on Amazon (Redeemed on Steam) that had a lot of their games, but included was Crusader Kings 2 and all the DLC up to that point.
 

Grief.exe

Member
Yeah, but it is an entirely different matter if Steam goes poof.

I doubt something as large as Steam would implode in one day, we will be able to see that coming for a year.

Dude, buy up the cheap cards, sell high.

He probably only has to buy up 3 or 4 until the price shoots up significantly higher. Generally just takes one idiot and the sheep that follow him.
 

Sajjaja

Member
For the simple fact that Steam has been around for a full decade, and we've never seen any evidence of them doing such a thing, yet Origin's shortcomings have been well-documented, such as:

- it tracks changes you make to single-player game files for no real reason
- forces you to be online (no offline mode)
- software stays on the hard drive indefinitely, even after you uninstall it
- scans your PC when you install it

I think you may be the one who's wide-eyed if you honestly believe Origin is any better than Steam. I'm not saying digital distribution is perfect, as it is subject to plenty of problems, but I'll take the established warhorse over the young upstart.

1) Steam also checks for altered game files, hence the verifying cache option and how it often doesn't launch games if files are edited.
2) Origin does have an offline mode, I just checked it by opening the client.
3)Are you referring to the game installers? Because there is an option to download the installer onto your computer and keep it there even if you uninstall the game.
4) Scans your PC? For what? Other software? Steam does that too....
 

xelios

Universal Access can be found under System Preferences
I tried that once and ultimately barely made a profit, haha. I'm not going to tempt fate again. ;)

I
almost
felt sorry for that guy who bought up all the snow globe foils (including one of mine) at the start of the holiday sale for $6-10 each, relisted them for twice as much and never sold them, then removed them all at once out of shame when everyone started dumping them on the market soon after.

I'm glad you fared better; can't blame you for not tempting fate again. =p
 

jediyoshi

Member
For the simple fact that Steam has been around for a full decade, and we've never seen any evidence of them doing such a thing, yet Origin's shortcomings have been well-documented, such as:

- it tracks changes you make to single-player game files for no real reason
- forces you to be online (no offline mode)
- software stays on the hard drive indefinitely, even after you uninstall it

I think you may be the one who's wide-eyed if you honestly believe Origin is any better than Steam. I'm not saying digital distribution is perfect, as it is subject to plenty of problems, but I'll take the established warhorse over the young upstart.

Was someone claiming that Origin was better than Steam? Are you pulling your knowledge of Origin out of a hat from 2011? Everything I'm reading is either completely outdated or wrong or FUD. The initial, single most specific issue you've brought up is something that is neigh indistinguishable from how Steam accomplishes it wherein Origin at the least makes it blatantly obvious how to opt out.
 
1) Steam also checks for altered game files, hence the verifying cache option and how it often doesn't launch games if files are edited.

2) Origin does have an offline mode, I just checked it by opening the client.

4) Scans your PC? For what? Other software? Steam does that too....

Then I'm wrong on those points.

3)Are you referring to the game installers? Because there is an option to download the installer onto your computer and keep it there even if you uninstall the game.

I'm talking about the platform itself. When you remove Origin from your system, most of it still remains hidden on the hard drive.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
Guys...guys, we need all those greenlit games to come out so I get all mah free keys, so many if them were in bundles. Also they must all have cards, free cards!
 

GuardsmanGreg

Neo Member
I was hoping Crusader Kings II would go down further, but it looks like 50% off is all I'm going to get. Has it historically been cheaper than this?

It's been 75% off before. The base game's very much worth it at twenty bucks. If you want to wait for a price drop that's not too bad of an idea either as I recommend grabbing two DLCs. The Old Gods and Legacy of Rome make Crusader Kings II go from a great game to an absolutely phenomenal one IMO. Sons of Abraham (The Newest one) is pretty neat too but not a must have. The Music and Portrait parks also aren't required but they give the game some neat little flavor.
 

Eternia

Member
Dude, buy up the cheap cards, sell high.
The problem with established values is that there is a sizable segment of users that do not look at current prices and likely follow whatever the chart says. That doesn't include the crazy undercutters yet either. :p

A lot of risk, especially for low volume items like foils.
 

JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
I
almost
felt sorry for that guy who bought up all the snow globe foils (including one of mine) at the start of the holiday sale for $6-10 each, relisted them for twice as much and never sold them, then removed them all at once out of shame when everyone started dumping them on the market soon after.

I'm glad you fared better; can't blame you for not tempting fate again. =p

Haha, I remember that. Buying up cards that everybody and their dog were crafting wasn't exactly the smartest move!
 

TheBear

Member
I got my first foil (yay!)
I have been idling Binding of Isaac and I got the VIII Justice Foil card (worth $0.40!!!)

So... did this foil drop because I was playing the game or is it just a coincidence?
 

Sajjaja

Member
I got my first foil (yay!)
I have been idling Binding of Isaac and I got the VIII Justice Foil card (worth $0.40!!!)

So... did this foil drop because I was playing the game or is it just a coincidence?

Because you were playing and had a card drop available still. It wasn't a specific action that you did that made you get a foil, the foil was by chance. It could have been a non-foil easily.
 

Kadin

Member
Man I am terrible at Rogue Legacy... TERRIBLE!

But I shall not give up, I'm now able to last for about 2mins before dying. Don't be jealous.
 
Oh god, I forgot how big of a pain this bat boss in Ys 1 is... Out of health potions, no mirror, at the bottom of this dang maze, do you think I really want to slog back down here again after I stock up? I'm going in dry.

Avenge me, brothers.
 

Dusk Golem

A 21st Century Rockefeller
A reminder if there's any game you want that hasn't been a daily/flash/community deal yet, now's the time to get it. The next flash deal should be the last new deals, tomorrow's sale day looks like it certainly is going the summer route and everything will be off-sale again, except a few select titles for an 'encore' from top sellers at their previous daily prices. All the smaller sale titles will be off sale, so now's the time of you're sure you want them this sale.
 

TheBear

Member
Because you were playing and had a card drop available still. It wasn't a specific action that you did that made you get a foil, the foil was by chance. It could have been a non-foil easily.

Ok thanks. So other foils and booster packs will just drop randomly then when I'm not playing a game?
 
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