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STEAM | July 2014-3 Let Off Some STEAM Bennett
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I didn't even realize they were doing this and it's making me want to go play Payday again. Even after all the bullshit weapon packs ($5 for 3 guns, in a game with 70+ guns), this has somewhat reversed my opinion on Overkill.
Hopefully, they'll keep doing the DLC this way instead of overcharging for a plethora of DLC that's mostly meaningless.
Jawmuncher
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Yes Ultra will be the newest when it comes out.
Krusenstern
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You scare me.
Spring-Loaded
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The big difference between AA and Super Metroid or Metroid Prime is how guided the experience is. At most, SM and MP give periodic hints on where to go, but not how to get there. Even when Metroid games are at their most linear, like with Metroid Fusion, the impetus of advancing through the game is on the player.
I'd say the more open map is one of City's least notable additions. The series' bread and butter are combat and stealth/predator gameplay, both of which saw a lot of improvements. The quickfire functions of gadgets adds much to the combat which, when looking back, was incredibly basic in AA. It's hard to believe how much the combat amazed me back when the AA demo was released. It's still good, but just outclassed by AC's. Same with the stealth. All the gadgets have some practical application during those segments. It's more feasible to mix combat and stealth in AC than in AA too; Being able to drop a smoke bomb, then run in and knock out multiple goons, then vanish before the smoke dissipates is both fun and a perfectly Batman-like thing to do. having quickfire functions for gadgets beyond the batarangs helps with that too; I can quickly knock out a guy, freeze a another when he comes around a corner, pull another over a ledge or disarm him with the batclaw, all without having to cycle through or select gadgets on a menu. Whoever managed to map all that to a game pad deserves particular recognition.
I always pimp out this video by BatmanArkhamVideos, but it helps get my point across about how additions like the ice grenade and smoke bomb go far in improving the experience. the rest of that guy's videos do a good job showcasing how good AC is.
Whether you're going stealth or kill-frenzy, the agility is always helpful, same with time stop.
What if I plan to kill everyone in sight while doing the sneaky deaky? Thanks for the info though from both you and Munch, gonna invest up in some blink the next few runes I find.
It's like a mix between the PS3 and Vita d-pad if you're familiar with it.
Everything about the DS4 is superior to the DS3.
Then you'll definitely want the powers Bend Time and Shadow Kill.
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Oh!, I thought it was released already, so Arcade Edition is the newest SF4?
derExperte
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The DS3's dpad is considered to be very good and I agree. DS4's feels a little different but isn't noticeably better or worse imo, looks the same too so if you dislike its form....
Dat terrible battery life. Also disintegrating analog pads and other durability issues. Everything else is indeed better.
It's alot better. Had no issues going through Shovel Knight with it.
Widdly Scuds
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Ultra edition is the newest but that's not available on PC until Aug 8. AE edition is the most current one on sale. If you own AE you can upgrade to Ultra for $15. Buying Ultra alone is $30
Jawmuncher
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Yep Arcade is the newest that's out.
You can upgrade to ultra through it for 15 instead of the 30 price if you don't own SF4AE.
CheesecakeRecipe
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Two hours in with Gods Will Be Watching:
There's been some kind of misunderstanding I feel, and it lies completely with the developers. For a game sold on choice, you get very little of it. This is not a game about freedom to approach a situation how you please as one may expect. It's a resource management game about finding the golden path forged by developer logic which we chastise old adventure games for.
The first scenario is a hostage mission in which the player is forced to shoulder the weight of every role at once. You have to manage the security to hack the computers and steal the data, calm or disturb the hostages so they don't get complacent or too scared, hold off the incoming anti-terrorism unit, manage health with limited supplies and so on. There are a lot of different ways to approach each situation but there seems to be a random chance that something won't go your way. And if you mess up, you have to restart the entire scenario. There's no dealing with your fuck ups.
The computer can be counter-hacked with even 75% security running, which costs you an action plus another action to correct. Each action either calms or upsets the hostages, and trying to counter-balance that ends up costing you an action. I'm fine with not being able to keep everyone alive without a bit of work but there's almost too much working against the player. That's on normal difficulty.
On easy difficulty we see how the developers don't have much understanding of balance. It's either "Get fucked in the face, Payday 2-on-Death-Wish style" on normal or "okay you baby, here comes the choo-choo train of storyspoon" on easy. It feels like they could have just met somewhere in the middle and avoided some of the frustrations on players while not practically insulting them for not wanting to deal with your sadism.
On that note, what's the point in sadistic and brutal violence if they happen so often and you're forced to repeat the scenarios so frequently that seeing a hostage's head get blown off loses pretty much all meaning? I don't feel conflicted when a life is lost, I just want to sigh and throw my hands up. Perhaps that's what the developer wanted but it makes for an utterly awful game.
It's not that I don't like difficulty either, I dug Dark Souls' jib, I rock Call of Pripyat with Misery Mod, Teleglitch was my personal number one last year. There's just a difference between difficulty and bad game design and this team doesn't seem to know the difference.
There's been some kind of misunderstanding I feel, and it lies completely with the developers. For a game sold on choice, you get very little of it. This is not a game about freedom to approach a situation how you please as one may expect. It's a resource management game about finding the golden path forged by developer logic which we chastise old adventure games for.
The first scenario is a hostage mission in which the player is forced to shoulder the weight of every role at once. You have to manage the security to hack the computers and steal the data, calm or disturb the hostages so they don't get complacent or too scared, hold off the incoming anti-terrorism unit, manage health with limited supplies and so on. There are a lot of different ways to approach each situation but there seems to be a random chance that something won't go your way. And if you mess up, you have to restart the entire scenario. There's no dealing with your fuck ups.
The computer can be counter-hacked with even 75% security running, which costs you an action plus another action to correct. Each action either calms or upsets the hostages, and trying to counter-balance that ends up costing you an action. I'm fine with not being able to keep everyone alive without a bit of work but there's almost too much working against the player. That's on normal difficulty.
On easy difficulty we see how the developers don't have much understanding of balance. It's either "Get fucked in the face, Payday 2-on-Death-Wish style" on normal or "okay you baby, here comes the choo-choo train of storyspoon" on easy. It feels like they could have just met somewhere in the middle and avoided some of the frustrations on players while not practically insulting them for not wanting to deal with your sadism.
On that note, what's the point in sadistic and brutal violence if they happen so often and you're forced to repeat the scenarios so frequently that seeing a hostage's head get blown off loses pretty much all meaning? I don't feel conflicted when a life is lost, I just want to sigh and throw my hands up. Perhaps that's what the developer wanted but it makes for an utterly awful game.
It's not that I don't like difficulty either, I dug Dark Souls' jib, I rock Call of Pripyat with Misery Mod, Teleglitch was my personal number one last year. There's just a difference between difficulty and bad game design and this team doesn't seem to know the difference.
I have done it -_-...... that why I am asking what next?
I'll concede the battery life complaint (not that the DS3 battery life was that much better when compared to like the 360 or Xbox One controller) but the durability issues definitely seem to be a YMMV thing.
As a show of good faith, do your own modbot giveaway.
Jawmuncher
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Thanks for the impressions.
Really sounding like the game is nothing like what people were hyping it up as.
Definitely sounds like something I wouldn't enjoy at all.
love how there's a zkylon disclaimer now <3
Let's not forget Shadow Tower Abyss!
derExperte
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The thread about the issues is still very active. Ohmy, they're now replacing the sticks with X1 ones?
Ah, Sony finally reacted with a new revision it seems.
welp
Sure, some don't have any problems but the longer people are using the DS4 the more complain, they're not random defects, it's bad design/quality.
If you're like me and love exploring every nook and cranny of the levels I would highly recommend getting the run fast and high jump abilities right after you get the far blink abilities. I also went low chaos and super sneaky, so they helped out there too.
I find that doing high chaos is best for a second run through, as you can blow through the game in, like, 5 hours that way. Others disagree though.
so you hear 1 random comment saying they arent good and ignore the ones saying they are good?
"The first scenario is a hostage mission in which the player is forced to shoulder the weight of every role at once. You have to manage the security to hack the computers and steal the data, calm or disturb the hostages so they don't get complacent or too scared, hold off the incoming anti-terrorism unit, manage health with limited supplies and so on. There are a lot of different ways to approach each situation but there seems to be a random chance that something won't go your way. And if you mess up, you have to restart the entire scenario. There's no dealing with your fuck ups."
im sorry, what? In the quicklook they fuck up A LOT and they still pass it. in fact, in the end it has a telltale style ranking system of "how many hostages each player killed" "how many players got into an argument" etc
BinaryPork2737
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Finally watched this, and it looks really great, sounds like it's got a ton of choices and options. I'm getting nostalgic for Baldur's Gate now.
I'm not sure if I want the choo-choo train or the get fucked in the face option now.
It's also disappointing to hear that the difficulty and design seems mismanaged by the devs. Still can't wait to play it when I get the opportunity to later tonight.
ItsGeeMcGee
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So I picked up CSD during the summer sale on SteamGAF's recommendation and what a mistake. Because that game is awesome and is destroying my backlog. I just got the one star restaurant, which I thought would ease my desire to play, but nope. It is easily one of the most addictive games I have played.
Dragon1893
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Thanks.
Didn't stop Joan of Arc
No proble-
Dammit!
But for reals, I'll give back with my own giveaway. I'm poor, so it won't be anything expensive like Divinity or Dark Souls, though. More like good cheap game from the weekly sale.
DaBargainHunta
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IMO repost it...thread moves too fast.
CheesecakeRecipe
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Were they playing on normal or easy? On normal there's almost zero room for error. I don't feel like sitting and watching how they pulled it off.
You should, or you can simply post the link to your impressions.
Ya. I feel Avengers is a little over-hyped though, so most people may probably still rate Avengers higher after watching. Guardians too really is a fine mix out of action and humour. Kind of the closest we can hope for to a new Firefly/Serenity!
You still stuck? I played through it in the last week (with the help of a little cat in here, heh) and can help you out. Some of the puzzles are a bit off really.
Chance Hale
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The first mission of Gods Will Be Watching is completely fair and watching the animations of the hostages makes it pretty easy to manage in multiple ways. Had a blast with having to manage so many different things at once. The second mission on the other hand has a bit near the end which is luck based and subsequently rather frustrating if you get unlucky. Still, rather intense and it fits the tone. Main problem with the second mission is its very, very long with lots and dialogue and while the length makes it rather nailbiting it also makes it very frustrating when you fail for the 5th time while figuring out how far you can push yourself.
Quality of games is always nice, no matter the price. There are just as many crappy $60 titles as there are good $5 ones.
normal. only 1 hostage survives, its quite funny. they do say its really hard, especially with all the hostages alive, it gets easier the fewer the hostages.
and you still get captured in the end anyway, its part of the story
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You know you have bit the Steam bug bad when you got to grab Dark Souls II's Season Pass from Nuuvem, still see their sale is going, and out of wild impulse or some stupid fear that you also pick up Dark and Aliens CM. Granted I like shitty games as more of a scholarly activity but this is scraping the bottom of the barrel even for me 
I've been keeping away from talk of Gods will Be Watching mainly due to it sounded like an interesting premise and was generating a fair bit of interest in here and the Indie thread. Though from your and a few other peoples impressions it seems like it might be something to keep an eye on than dive in now.
I've been keeping away from talk of Gods will Be Watching mainly due to it sounded like an interesting premise and was generating a fair bit of interest in here and the Indie thread. Though from your and a few other peoples impressions it seems like it might be something to keep an eye on than dive in now.
Already asked this, apparently Sony published it.
play it. it's good.
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God this optional boss in Dark Souls 2 DLC is frustrating as shit. Even with a solid team it's fucking hard. I managed to help one person finish it once. Why couldn't it have been on my save
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You know you have bit the Steam bug bad when you got to grab Dark Souls II's Season Pass from Nuuvem, still see their sale is going, and out of wild impulse or some stupid fear that you also pick up Dark and Aliens CM. Granted I like shitty games as more of a scholarly activity but this is scraping the bottom of the barrel even for me
Dark is all right as a $10 title.
Hmm, well I'm missing something, because I just started giving games away and have 25, but am not qualifying.
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