I tried out Payday 2, but didn't really enjoy it that much. I played a mission with AI partners, and was hoping to stealth my way through it, but I guess that's not an option unless you unlock those types of characters through the stat point thing? I don't know how I feel about that. Usually I like character progression, but it seems like you're too limited in the beginning. I had to hash it out with the cops for 20 minutes, because I had no stealth take down option (tried melee but it didn't amount to anything) and the drills for the safes were slow (I'm guessing upgrades make those faster, too). I dunno. I don't think I'm too fond of the whole "hold down button until thing happens" type of interaction either.
How does Payday 1 compare to Payday 2? I actually own that one, so I intend to beat it eventually. Might make it low priority if it's too similar though. The slog might be bearable if there's a story at all...
no story
neither game is "beatable" with only bots, tho you can prolly do like one of the first missions pretty easy, but since bots odn't grab bags or anything it's kinda lame. also it's a waste not to play with people since you don't really have to communicate much and the bots are pretty terrible
also for stealth you don't need a shit ton of grinding but it's usually better to have one or two people that have a good amount of points into the stealth trees so you can like answer more pagers or have more bodybags or all that other fun crap. also u need money to buy the stealth assets. the stealth approach is more of a late game thing, tho you can just join someone else's game and learn how to do it if u want
also grinding is pretty easy cos u can just stealth the jewelry store on like pro at death wish difficulty with a couple jammers and a silenced gun and you only really need two people and that gives like 700k for 2 minutes or whatever. if you're into that stuff it's really easy to find games like those and get yourself to a decent level so you can enjoy the more difficult missions
also i like payday 1 but with all the upgrades payday 2 got i don't think pd1 it's much interesting anymore. there's a couple fun missions but the stealth is even more simple and the shooting isn't nearly as fun
overall payday 2 is pretty decent if you like shooting cops and shit but i wouldn't say it's that great of a stealth game. the grinding is pretty manageable if you do missions in like hard or very hard which shouldn't be too difficult if you have a couple levels in (which you can get just being there while other people beat jewel store in death wish pro in like half an hour) and then it's just fun times, even if the whole waiting for the drill thing gets pretty repetitive after a while.
the three things i wish the game was better at is
1) having a comms' wheel or something so you can quickly tell people to follow you or hold their ground or whatever,
2) better hostage mechanics (so that trading hostages and maybe handling them is a more involved mechanic of like keeping them in check or having them not panic or maybe negotiating and stalling the police assaults and shit) and
3) more level specific interactive stuff like cooking the meth and shit
Scholar of the First Sin DX11 version is like a month out, and they still haven't shown me a good reason to upgrade. I wonder if they will.
enemy placement sounds like a nice thing but upgrade price is the one thing that matters. if it's higher than 15, maybe 20, then it's totally not worth it, and even at 15 it's a stretch if you didn't really like dks2, cos apparently they're not upgrading the bosses or the level design whatsoever
also that's some kickass cosplay
Don't play with bots. Get some Gaffers and try it again. Not lashman though. Last time I tried stealth with him, he threw a grenade through a window.
you can throw as many grenades as you want if you have a jammer
