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[Arthea]

I think one of the major challenges HG face with No Man's Sky is how long it take for repetition to start showing in the games world generation. Stump made a very good post in a thread about Procedurally Generated games and the challenges involved (can't find it right now as it was a while back). Even games like Civ or Worms with just basic elements like map generation, despite countless possible combinations after a while you start to see repetition in structures, assets and tile sets.

Elite is still the daddy for me, mainly because of the wow factor of 7 year old me thinking he was Han Solo smuggling throughout the galaxy but also because of how cleaver the algorithms and look up tables that Braben and co crafted in a flipping Acorn electron game using a teeny space of memory. Durante linked a while back a TED talk by David Braben on how it all worked (that I also can't find but it was in the Steam thread before Crimbo).

Not to say I'm not looking forward to No Man's Sky but just that I don't want it to be all smoke and mirrors or all mouth and no trousers to coin a British phrase. So as I do with bigger, showier titles I'm interested in when I feel there's more talkie, talkie than showy, showy I usually stick my head in the sand until it's out so not to got carried away with 'The Hype™'.

The problem with Elite that is not as fascinating to play for longer time than one would expect. That's my concern with NMS too. It's really hard to make a good, vast space sim that's fun to play. That is the real challenge, not even repetition, most of us don't get to the part where it starts to repeat itself... because it's not fun to play. Don't you agree?
Or maybe it's just me... seeing as I'm reluctant to play Elite dangerous and Star Citizen. The same is true for EVE Online, it feels like work not game, even if in theory it is a great game.

Spoiler

It probably is me, I don't want and can't invest so much time into games anymore, I should just forget NMS too (><)

Plus these type of space games can make you spend even more money investing into a kickass flight stick.

that you end up not using? (><)

 

[Milamber]

Plus these type of space games can make you spend even more money investing into a kickass flight stick.

 

[Dr Dogg]

The problem with Elite that is not as fascinating to play for longer time than one would expect. That's my concern with NMS too. It's really hard to make a good, vast space sim that's fun to play. That is the real challenge, not even repetition, most of us don't get to the part where it starts to repeat itself... because it's not fun to play. Don't you agree?
Or maybe it's just me... seeing as I'm reluctant to play Elite dangerous and Star Citizen. The same is true for EVE Online, it feels like work not game, even if in theory it is a great game.

Spoiler

It probably is me, I don't want and can't invest so much time into games anymore, I should just forget NMS too (><)

Oh Elite really hasn't aged well at all, I mean christ it's almost 31 years old but I came to it 3 years after it came out and owned on my Speccy and Atari ST and still had plenty of life in it upto '92 for me. That was just enough until Frontier came out and that was something I still had dalliances with up until the start of college. Then again times have changes, games have explored differing avenues, there's a lot of devices and things just on the internet competing for our attention these days, and we all have massive backlogs that playing one game for any prolonged stretch of time is a challenge in itself. I went years playing Champ Man/Footy Man exclusively and religiously and now I only muster 20-30 hours per release.

 

[JaseC]

Evoland is on Linux as of a couple of hours ago.

 

[Arthea]

Oh Elite really hasn't aged well at all, I mean christ it's almost 31 years old but I came to it 3 years after it came out and owned on my Speccy and Atari ST and still had plenty of life in it upto '92 for me. That was just enough until Frontier came out and that was something I still had dalliances with up until the start of college. Then again times have changes, games have explored differing avenues, there's a lot of devices and things just on the internet competing for our attention these days, and we all have massive backlogs that playing one game for any prolonged stretch of time is a challenge in itself. I went years playing Champ Man/Footy Man exclusively and religiously and now I only muster 20-30 hours per release.

I know exactly what you mean! I've played Stars! of all games for 50 hours or so back in the day, and I spent something like 10 hours with Endless Space and I feel like I had more than enough. Talk about getting inpatient with age when it has to be other way around, according to beliefs. (><)

 

[Widdly Scuds]

Oh hey, Long Live The Queen got updated with some more plot and achievements

 

[Arthea]

Oh hey, Long Live The Queen got updated with some more plot and achievements

you kidding, right?
*goes to check*

edited: oh my, that's too good to be true, but it is true!
well, I know what I'm playing today (¬&#8255;¬)
edit2: that's actually a megaton

 

[Ozium]

fired up arkham oranges... already feeling compelled to do all the riddler shit

between this, hotline miami on tuesday and la cops on friday I'm set.

 

[Milamber]

you kidding, right?
*goes to check*

edited: oh my, that's too good to be true, but it is true!
well, I know what I'm playing today (¬&#8255;¬)
edit2: that's actually a megaton

I love being kept abreast in the latest updates of this game.

 

[Sarcasm]

has anyone here experience in installing LAN wall sockets in your apartment?

I'm not quite sure how to go about it, I basically just want a wall socket in my bedroom, and a cable to the router in my living room.

Should I install an additional wall socket next to the router, and stretch a cable between that one and the socket in my bedroom? I probably don't want the end of the new bedroom wall socket to be a lose cable end (connected directly in the router)?

You basically change the cable ends to female and run the cable between the sockets.
Then you use the typical cable(male)from router to socket. Then other socket to pc.

 

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[Arthea]

I love being kept abreast in the latest updates of this game.

it is a game that keeps giving!

Spoiler

not what you thought just now, btw (><)

 

[_hekk05]

you are tempting me Grief. my Filco isn't doing well.

It looks sexy but I can see it being a dust trap. Does look easier to clean with some air though

 

[Rapstah]

No Man's Sky feels like a step below the type of space game you would use a flight stick for.

 

[milena87]

I now realized that today is not the day I can start playing Cities Skylines.

 

[Arthea]

I now realized that today is not the day I can start playing Cities Skylines.

look at the bright side, we got more of LLTQ, nothing will top this today

edited: I like how they updated it for free, instead of adding dlc
Hanako games <3

 

[Chariot]

Time to eat some chocolate

 

[InfiniteNine]

Time to eat some chocolate

RIP

 

[xBladeM6x]

No Man's Sky feels like a step below the type of space game you would use a flight stick for.

Agreed.

Though, visually it seems to me it's like a Star Trek episode, if you watched the whole thing tripping on hallucinogenics. Which is right up my alley.

 

[Arthea]

RIP

not necessary

Spoiler

if you are a dog person for example

 

[Tizoc]

Just noticed that Gamestop priced Uncharted 4 75€.
Regular edition :l

Dude
Just use us psn mang...

 

[Arthea]

Dude
Just use us psn mang...

In which universe are you living? actually all new games are priced £55 these days on PSN, what's about 76&#8364;, with euro dropping as it is, prices are getting beyond insane.

edited: well, not all, only irrelevant ones - popular cinematic experiences (><)

 

[Dr Dogg]

Just noticed that Gamestop priced Uncharted 4 75&#8364;.
Regular edition :l

Shock Horror! Price gouging retailer gouges prices!

If you're buying a Sony game Day One and don't do something like the early Amazon Preorder Price Shuffle (as in preorder it the moment the store page goes up at either UK or DE as they're bloody well cheaper than IT even with shipping) then you need your head examined. Of course it wouldn't be a day in the week with out PunishedSnake moaning about pricing without exploring every option available

In which universe are you living? actually all new games are priced £55 these days on PSN, what's about 76&#8364;, with euro dropping as it is, prices are getting beyond insane.

They key here is US PSN. Not our inflated EU prices.

 

[Shantom]

In which universe are you living? actually all new games are priced £55 these days on PSN, what's about 76€, with euro dropping as it is, prices are getting beyond insane.

He said US, not UK

 

[Arthea]

ups, OK, US prices are better

who here is not getting HM2?

I'm, why?

 

[Ozium]

who here is not getting HM2?

 

[Tizoc]

who here is not getting HM2?

Moi~ ...and I plan on double dipping Sony+Steam versions =3

 

[bobnowhere]

who here is not getting HM2?

Not here. Mainly because I'm completely terrible at HM1! Also we're not allowed it in Australia.

 

[Dr Dogg]

I wonder what will happen to those in the Notline Miami 2 camp? Zeliard was in here the other day, I smell a Bayonetta 2 like situation on the horizon.

 

[Ozium]

Moi~ ...and I plan on double dipping Sony+Steam versions =3

wot

Not here. Mainly because I'm completely terrible at HM1! Also we're not allowed it in Australia.

but forbidden fruit tastes the best, m8

 

[Arthea]

I wonder what will happen to those in the Notline Miami 2 camp? Zeliard was in here the other day, I smell a Bayonetta 2 like situation on the horizon.

Well, I'm not buying games,

Spoiler

except selected few,

you all can sue me or bite, your choice

 

[baterism]

who here is not getting HM2?

Me. HM1 made me sick. Something with overhead viewpoint always make me sick. I dunno why. My neck also feel stiff if I play from than PoV.

 

[Ozium]

Well, I'm not buying games,

Spoiler

except selected few,

you all can sue me or bite, your choice

selected few like hotline miami 2 you mean

 

[Arthea]

selected few like hotline miami 2 you mean

it's not in my list, you'll have to live with that!

Spoiler

also I need to mention I had problems with running the first game, crashing problems, so I'm not even sure I like it, probably not.

 

[Baron_Calamity]

who here is not getting HM2?

I'm probably not going to get it day one but I will get it.

 

[Knurek]

look at the bright side, we got more of LLTQ, nothing will top this today

edited: I like how they updated it for free, instead of adding dlc
Hanako games <3

Do they also have Chris Avellone doing writing for the expansion?

 

[Sarcasm]

who here is not getting HM2?

I'm not.

 

[Dr Dogg]

I have no a PS4, I'm not preordering this. But this is the FIRST game I see in Italy priced 75€, for a regular edition, that's it.
You can google the whole Gamestop site, and you won't find another exaple like this.

I'm sure there will be others, I'm sure you're PSN prices are in line with that too. Christ I saw The Order 1886 in GAME for £54.99 the other day but I know full well that just because one retailer prices high doesn't mean they all do as it's currently sitting at a smidge under £44 on Amazon and if you wanted to import it from Play-Asia it's £39 with international shipping. I couldn't give a toss what one retailer prices a singular game at when there is plenty of competition out there, you need to broaden your horizons if you want the best deal.

 

[Baron_Calamity]

Oh hey, Long Live The Queen got updated with some more plot and achievements

Going to have to try playing this again.

You need one of those self motivational posters on a wall near by to gee you up. Like that cat clinging to a branch that has the caption 'hang in there'. Of course now I'm stuck thinking of Garfield and he hates Mondays.

At least tomorrow is AssCreed Rogue, Hotline Miami 2, Cities Skylines, Shelter 2 day.

Sid Meier's Starships comes out thursday so I'm getting that. I know I will get everything else you listed, just at a later date. Though I might cave and get Hotline Miami 2 as well.

It's all fun and games until your grandma gets pregnant.

At my age, if I was dating, its probably someone's grandma.

 

[lashman]

At my age, if I was dating, its probably someone's grandma.

depressing

 

[Ozium]

mondays bring us new weekly deals
a new bundle from indiegala
hopefully some amazeballs bundlestars 8 games on your wishlist for $2.99 bundle

it's gonna be so hype

 

[toddhunter]

who here is not getting HM2?

I think Hotline Miami was...kind of garbage, pretty much the Mortal Kombat of top down games. Remove the violence and you are left with something nobody would bother playing.

 

[PetriP-TNT]

I think Hotline Miami was...kind of garbage, pretty much the Mortal Kombat of top down games. Remove the violence and you are left with something nobody would bother playing.

Awful opinion alert

 

[Baron_Calamity]

depressing

You're telling me! (That said, women my age are saying the same thing about men, so the depression goes all around)

I think Hotline Miami was...kind of garbage, pretty much the Mortal Kombat of top down games. Remove the violence and you are left with something nobody would bother playing.

No way. The game was super tight. If it didn't have the gore, it would still be awesome.

 

[Arthea]

Do they also have Chris Avellone doing writing for the expansion?

I have no idea.

I think Hotline Miami was...kind of garbage, pretty much the Mortal Kombat of top down games. Remove the violence and you are left with something nobody would bother playing.

I am not sure when you are kidding most of the time, but this makes no sense, it's like saying lets remove space from a space sim, or strategy from a strategy game and see who will bother playing what's left.

 

[Deques]

who here is not getting HM2?

Not me. But I am getting it for payday 2 content

 

[Hero Prinny]

who here is not getting HM2?

Is that hotline Miami 2? If so, nah I'm good first one was a lot of fun(got from PS+) but I got enough games to keep me occupied ATM(dbz, mh4, evolve, bayo2, hyrule warriors and the great smash bros)

 

[Ozium]

Not me. But I am getting it for payday 2 content

you mean you are going to buy the game but not play it you just want the payday 2 content?

how does the payday 2 content work? I honestly don't care about payday 2 and don't want it, is it something I can give away or is it just activated at the same time the game is?

 

[Lain]

who here is not getting HM2?

Pre-ordered the first game, but for this sequel I feel a bit more cold now that it's almost out, so I'll be waiting a bit and spend that money on Ori instead.

 

[derExperte]

I think Hotline Miami was...kind of garbage, pretty much the Mortal Kombat of top down games. Remove the violence and you are left with something nobody would bother playing.

You can't pull HM1 apart like that. The gameplay is challenging, fast and fun with replay value, music is godly, story goes from mysterious to weird to crazy, it's set in the 80s and looks like it and the violence is in no way an end in itself. Really every single aspect fits perfectly.