Change in policy regarding DD threads in Gaming/Community.
(PM sent to Bish/Stump)
So recently it came to notice that DD/Platform threads as well as a few other threads were moved from Gaming to the Community section, this was done without any real discussion with members of GAF on why these changes were occurring and quite frankly seem to be erratic in terms of execution.
Afterwards we did receive a few statements from Minsc on the matter:
Originally Posted by Minsc
Sorry for the rough wake up, but as you can see we're trying something new. Less general-platform-type year-round (via repeating monthly / when needed or just staying yearly in a thread), all-encompassing threads in Gaming, more actual specific, this is happening right now type gaming threads. Community isn't supposed to be a dead place where threads go to disappear, so maybe this will liven up the Community forums as well.
Originally Posted by Minsc
At least you know exactly what those threads are discussing, which with these general purpose threads, is a lot less clear, and there are so many of them, they seem better fitted to being subscribed to and existing in a place that doesn't take up the front page of Gaming.
Things can (and probably will) change, but they seem to be better fitted to community. The purpose is really to post screens more than discussion (unless I'm mistaken), and they are very general threads that can clutter up the main gaming page over an indefinite amount of time (the entire year).
Originally Posted by Minsc
We'll see how it works out. Maybe things will return, I'm not sure. New things happening should get new threads if you want to discuss them. They do already get them anyway, so little should change right?
Originally Posted by Minsc
It's not a bad idea, I'll see if someone more more versed / authoritative wants to when more are around. For now, think of it as something overdue to clean up the Gaming forums a little, which may or may not change, we'll see how it works. Like others said, it is along the lines of the direction change a while back.
The main problem with this is because the Steam thread is a monthly thread its assumed that it is less likely to have current gaming news. However the Steam thread it does often have news on daily prices, updates and changes to Steam which would never be posted in the main gaming forums as it would easily get lost but are still quite important hence why people check the Steam forums for this information.
Moving it to Community has a negative impact as we lose members in the long-run, the Steam thread has a long history of members who come and go, some who are very beneficial to the thread and help us keep it relevant, by moving it to community we are relying on members to help post news and keep out an eye on pc events. Gaming side has been especially important for this growth and weve gotten new and helpful members in this process, its unlikely new members or non0-member to venture into Community as much which puts the thread into risk in the long run as a news/update thread.
The other problem is that the ruling is still very off in what you want in Gaming, for instance: you demoted screenshots threads in community but we still have threads like these:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=462902
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=369866
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=442713
Same goes for DD/platform threads, they were all moved to community, but for some reason these were fine to have in Gaming:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=480757
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=614511
And then we have gaming specific hype/community threads that should really be in community:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=616046
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=869186
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=924211
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=923575
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=491431
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=919663
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=483428
Some of these threads are Megathreads but are still allowed in Gaming, Smash Bros is a classic example in which it feels like how the Steam thread is but its a allowed a pass in Gaming, on the other side we have a Mass Effect appreciation thread thats 70 pages, as well as RETRO-AGE threads that are not really relevant gaming news. Overall the ruling seems very pick and mix on what is deemed current.
Its quite annoying that we got moved without any notice, especially to the changes in the Steam thread to be more gaming focused with info on upcoming titles which members write reviews on a monthly basis, who help gaffers finding interesting new games each month, something that is rarely done in gaming as their voice can easily get lost in the tirade of constant new threads. It would have been better if we had an open discussion on how these changes were going to be carried out and how to minimize the impacts.
Overall the Steam thread is relevant on a daily basis considering that Steam is pretty much the de-facto standard to obtain PC news on GAF. It has a large userbase of many members who contribute with finding deals as well as new members who join us and help contribute to the thread, this includes devs and people who help vastly knowledgeable about Steam and its workings. Its a shame that this thread has been moved as a way to salvage the Community side.