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STEAM | September 2014 - Nice thread. Btw, Bayonetta 2 is out next month.
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For some reason I was under the impression that it was nothing at all like the other Civ games and not even the same genre of game, so I didn't pay any attention to it. Now I'm really excited for it! Civ in space, yay!!
Succinct Verbosity
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If I loved rts games like Age of Empires, would I like the Wargame franchise?
Gonna watch this now. Am excited.
Maybe, but they wouldn't correlate. Wargame's nothing like AoE. It's like a simulator of World in Conflict.
I won a few games so here is something in return. I have some more but I will give them away later. Cheers
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someguyinahat
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What's Brazen Prototype? It doesn't seem to be appearing in the steam store. Nothing about Brazen, and I wouldn't assume you're giving out four copies of Prototype...
They come from Double Fine's Amnesia Fortnight event/bundle. So no, they are not Prototype the game haha
It's a Double Fine game prototype, from the old Amnesia Fortnight bundle, and it doesn't exist on the store.
electroflame
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So I just finished Dishonored + Knife of Dunwall + Brigmore Witches for the first time.
What a completely uneven experience.
Up front you're told that killing people and generally being naughty will have (bad) repercussions and you're dissuaded from killing (fine by me, I generally play as a good guy).
I played the entire base game as a pacifist. If I got caught, I'd reload. If I killed someone, I'd reload. This got really boring and annoying. It's almost like a pacifist run was an afterthought added solely for the Low/High Chaos endings and for blatant playtime padding. There's two ways to take care of enemies without killing them: sleep darts (too limited) and choking them out. If you're caught, you're pretty much hosed. There's really no direct way to deal with people without killing them. The world was very interesting, gameplay mechanics were pretty cool, etc., but trying to force a no-kill or low bodycount playthrough by telling the player that bad things will happen as one of the first messages they get was the single dumbest thing about the game. The base game simply isn't designed for it. Not to mention that there's so many fun ways that your powers can kill people (stopping time and killing someone with their own bullet being among my favorites).
The DLCs were better. I skipped the "no killing" attitude and played as a general pacifist that would kill if needed. It's really shocking how much that changes the experience. Way, way more fun.
Of the two DLCs, I'd say that Brigmore Witches was far better. Knife of Dunwall was boring to me, and only served as a save to import into Brigmore Witches. Both of the DLCs were a major step up in the stealth department, though, with more ways to take care of people without killing them.
Overall, I'd say that the game is good, but deeply flawed. Brigmore Witches was one of the best DLC expansions I've played in a long time.
Base game gets a 7/10 (good, not amazing), Knife of Dunwall gets a 6/10 (kind of boring, mostly padding) and Brigmore Witches gets an 8.5/10 (very good, compelling and with lots of new stuff) from me.
I know that I'm way late to the party here, but I figured that I'd still post my impressions.
Sorry if it's just thread clutter. 
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It's also a shelved project, at least for the moment. It was Brad Muir's baby but he's now helming Massive Chalice.
edit: I think I have 2 brazen keys as well that no one has taken despite them being in free4all giveaways multiple times. I don't know, do prototypes count as +1? Since they are not public (can't post screenshots on Steam community etc), maybe not?
It's also a shelved project, at least for the moment. It was Brad Muir's baby but he's now helming Massive Chalice.
edit: I think I have 2 brazen keys as well that no one has taken despite them being in free4all giveaways multiple times. I don't know, do prototypes count as +1? Since they are not public (can't post screenshots on Steam community etc), maybe not?
Chance Hale
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It tells you that acting like a terrible monster and killing lots of people will have bad repercussions. In no way does it beg you to go for a pacifist run. And you avoid enemies by using blink or any one of the other powers, in most cases you can completely avoid any kind of encounter. Not to mention most areas in the game(penultimate chapter being the exception I remember) have multiple routes.
Wargame is very different to Age of Empires, so it's a big maybe there. Check some of the gameplay videos that are out there, and if you're unsure, pick up Wargame: Airland Battle first, and play that for a bit.
Heads up if you use humble bundle's two step and even remotely use your phone's browser to view HB page while logged in.
Its not very secure. Last two weeks I been in contact with their support since the two step SMS stopped working for me. Token I had never was accepted either in logging in or when I tried to reset password. Their support is on par with steam fyi.
So many days later...I thought to myself to see if I can disable two step from my phone..since my phone stayed logged in.
Well you can disable it..there is no need for another code nor does it ask for your password again to disable it.
I go my account back at least.
Its not very secure. Last two weeks I been in contact with their support since the two step SMS stopped working for me. Token I had never was accepted either in logging in or when I tried to reset password. Their support is on par with steam fyi.
So many days later...I thought to myself to see if I can disable two step from my phone..since my phone stayed logged in.
Well you can disable it..there is no need for another code nor does it ask for your password again to disable it.
I go my account back at least.
grosvenor_92
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I think WB fixed most of the bugs but didn't fix everything once they started working on the cold cold heart dlc. If you buy it it should be fine as I played through the game again recently and didn't run into any problems
spindoctor
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The first advice I give anyone starting Dishonored is to not pigeonhole yourself into one specific way of playing the game. Stealth if you feel like it and combat if it goes to shit or something. The combat in this game is especially fun once you start chaining abilities so it only enhances the experience. And of course the high chaos ending is far better than the low chaos one anyway.
I can't remember the specifics but was this one of those games where using stealth is more rewarding in terms of XP gained and all that? I remember DX Human Revolution was. And gamers (at least some of us) are tuned to maximize the reward from a game so we tend towards the stealth route.
I can't remember the specifics but was this one of those games where using stealth is more rewarding in terms of XP gained and all that? I remember DX Human Revolution was. And gamers (at least some of us) are tuned to maximize the reward from a game so we tend towards the stealth route.
Wargame is something very different, but you shouldn't pass it up. They are some of the best modern PC games to be had.
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someguyinahat
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Assassin's Creed...isn't about stealth?
Unity might be, finally.
rainking187
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I don't know if it's been posted but a few more games appear to have been greenlit today.
electroflame
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Honestly, if I did it again, I would absolutely do this. The combat is very fun. Stealth/Pacifist...not so much.
I'm so burnt out on the game right now, though. According to Steam it was only 22 hours, but it feels more like 40.
This is exactly why I stopped playing Dishonoured!
I was treating it like a pure stealth game with no killing, which got extremely difficult fast. I had no idea how much chaos was generated by killing someone, so I just stopped playing. I think I need to revisit the game and actually kill people! The magic teleporting thing made it really interesting to play as a stealth game!
-MD-
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Might actually play it if true.
oipic
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I went full-stealth, and despite forever loading saves when things went haywire and pear-shaped, it was great (but slow) fun - replaying it as a murder simulator is definitely on my to-do list, as there are so many toys and skills that pass by unused and unexplored when playing Dishonored stealthily. One of my favourite titles of recent times.
IblisGinjo
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So I just finished Dishonored + Knife of Dunwall + Brigmore Witches for the first time.
What a completely uneven experience.
Up front you're told that killing people and generally being naughty will have (bad) repercussions and you're dissuaded from killing (fine by me, I generally play as a good guy).
I played the entire base game as a pacifist. If I got caught, I'd reload. If I killed someone, I'd reload. This got really boring and annoying. It's almost like a pacifist run was an afterthought added solely for the Low/High Chaos endings and for blatant playtime padding. There's two ways to take care of enemies without killing them: sleep darts (too limited) and choking them out. If you're caught, you're pretty much hosed. There's really no direct way to deal with people without killing them. The world was very interesting, gameplay mechanics were pretty cool, etc., but trying to force a no-kill or low bodycount playthrough by telling the player that bad things will happen as one of the first messages they get was the single dumbest thing about the game. The base game simply isn't designed for it. Not to mention that there's so many fun ways that your powers can kill people (stopping time and killing someone with their own bullet being among my favorites)...
I've had Dishonored from Day 1 but could never get the feel of the game because I wanted to go all stealth. For some reason the knowledge of a low/high chaos endings made me shun playing it as freely as I could. One day I'll get the urge to play it, I also want to experience the masquerade level & all the different ways to get revenge on your enemies.
electroflame
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This is exactly why I stopped playing Dishonoured!
The magic teleporting thing made it really interesting to play as a stealth game!
It seemed to me that as long as you don't kill everyone and only kill when you need to you should still get Low Chaos. I would absolutely recommend playing through it with stealth + killing, as that can be very, very fun. Guns blazing is pretty fun too.
Skulking around in a dark corner waiting five minutes for a dude to turn his back so you can choke him out whilst wishing that you didn't waste that last sleep dart on the guard that you thought saw you (but didn't actually see you) is very much not fun.
This was my problem. It made me feel like I'd miss out on something "good" if I did that, and I generally don't play games to be a monster so I wasn't fond of the idea of being classified as one for, say, killing someone who was going to kill me anyway.
That's pretty much all the Chaos system is anyway, which is what makes it feel like an afterthought that's simply there to make you replay it to "see the other side".
Ingueferroque
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So I just finished Dishonored + Knife of Dunwall + Brigmore Witches for the first time.
What a completely uneven experience.
Up front you're told that killing people and generally being naughty will have (bad) repercussions and you're dissuaded from killing (fine by me, I generally play as a good guy).
I played the entire base game as a pacifist. If I got caught, I'd reload. If I killed someone, I'd reload. This got really boring and annoying. It's almost like a pacifist run was an afterthought added solely for the Low/High Chaos endings and for blatant playtime padding. There's two ways to take care of enemies without killing them: sleep darts (too limited) and choking them out. If you're caught, you're pretty much hosed. There's really no direct way to deal with people without killing them. The world was very interesting, gameplay mechanics were pretty cool, etc., but trying to force a no-kill or low bodycount playthrough by telling the player that bad things will happen as one of the first messages they get was the single dumbest thing about the game. The base game simply isn't designed for it. Not to mention that there's so many fun ways that your powers can kill people (stopping time and killing someone with their own bullet being among my favorites).
The DLCs were better. I skipped the "no killing" attitude and played as a general pacifist that would kill if needed. It's really shocking how much that changes the experience. Way, way more fun.
Of the two DLCs, I'd say that Brigmore Witches was far better. Knife of Dunwall was boring to me, and only served as a save to import into Brigmore Witches. Both of the DLCs were a major step up in the stealth department, though, with more ways to take care of people without killing them.
Overall, I'd say that the game is good, but deeply flawed. Brigmore Witches was one of the best DLC expansions I've played in a long time.
Base game gets a 7/10 (good, not amazing), Knife of Dunwall gets a 6/10 (kind of boring, mostly padding) and Brigmore Witches gets an 8.5/10 (very good, compelling and with lots of new stuff) from me.
I know that I'm way late to the party here, but I figured that I'd still post my impressions.Sorry if it's just thread clutter.
I fully agree with you. Great review, post it on Steam.
Tizoc
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LOL, mind elaborating about that?
someguyinahat
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I'm genuinely asking. I've never played an Assassin's Creed game but I just assumed that assassins were stealthy. Because they're, you know, assassins.
this comes out tomorrow? i'll stream it after i get out of classes
spindoctor
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In hindsight, the low chaos ending isn't something you should even try to get. I had my Gob Bluth face on when I youtubed the high chaos endings after finishing my game in low chaos.
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Chance Hale
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You can kill a lot of people in Dishonored and still get the "good" ending. It just prevents you from walking into an area, laying waste to an entire troupe, and having rats eat civilians.
I'll try to pretend chaos doesn't exist next time I try it; it will be much more fun!
The game urges you to play it like a stealth game, but it's not too well designed for it! Maybe it changes in the later game, but sleep darts seemed extremely rare, and in some places, there wasn't a big enough window to be out of guards' line of sight to sneak past them unless you execute some crazy blink trick and get lucky!
When you actually can sneak up behind a guard and choke them, it is pretty satisfying, but it gets old!
Terra_Ex
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Nope, I did a high chaos run first on consoles then after getting the PC version I did a perfect ghost/pacifist run for the campaign and dlcs. Both runs were extremely enjoyable but the ghost/pacifist run ended up being the most satisfying for me.
Chance Hale
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Dishonored is very well designed for stealth, blink is a major mechanic of the game and main traversal method. It's not about getting "lucky" with it.
In AC1 at least, most of the assassinations take place in very public areas with tons of people around, so you basically have to stab the target and run for your life.
Or stab and counter the guards over and over again because countering pretty much makes you invinsible in AC1, which is what I played!
I got halfway through Dishonored on a no kill run and it just made me feel like all the cool stuff was locked away for the 'good' ending. Just tedious and it felt like way more thought went into the murder skills.
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Chance Hale
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Can one VPN play it?
Should be able to.
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