Steve Jobs Biography describes Jobs as hell bent on destroying Android

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It's called killer instinct, and it is a required trait to be a superior business person. He had it, used it and went out on top.

It's a shame that he didn't get more time to innovate and continue to change people's lives through the blend of technology and art.

Can't wait to read the book.

BrettXNA said:
What a jackass.
The day he died was a great day.
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You are a real
butt
hole.
 
jett said:
Steve Jobs being an insane egotistical fuck isn't really new. In any case I'm really interested in this book.
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Yeah, I feel the same way. Also, I think I'm going to buy this book as well.
 
bbagwell said:
It's called killer instinct, and it is a required trait to be a superior business person. He had it, used it and went out on top.

It's a shame that he didn't get more time to innovate and continue to change people's lives through the blend of technology and art.
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Pretty much how I feel. Most people get turned off by incredibly aggressive people but it's a trait many business leaders need to have (in my opinion).

I like the mentality in a leader and would be hesitant to follow someone if they didn't display some kind of tendency to utterly destroy their adversaries.
 
striKeVillain! said:
I like the mentality in a leader and would be hesitant to follow someone if they didn't display some kind of tendency to utterly destroy their adversaries.
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Yeah but this is GAF dude.

BrettXNA said:
What a jackass.
The day he died was a great day.
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good bye, lol
 
All great CEOs were brutal as decision makers even if they were a teddy bear to friends and family its just the way the mindset of a great leader works
 
As much as I like to hate on Jobs, pretty much all competitive business owners talk like this about their competition, if only in private.
 
(Reuters) - Apple Inc co-founder Steve Jobs refused potentially life-saving cancer surgery for nine months, shrugging off his family's protests and opting instead for alternative medicine, according to the tech visionary's biographer.

When he eventually sought surgery, the rare form of pancreatic cancer had spread to the tissues surrounding the organ, biographer Walter Isaacson said in an interview with "60 Minutes" on CBS, to be aired on Sunday.

Jobs also played down the seriousness of his condition and told everyone he was cured but kept receiving treatment in secret, Isaacson said in the interview.

The biography hits bookstores October 24 and emerged from scores of interviews with Jobs. It is expected to paint an unprecedented, no-holds-barred portrait of a man who famously guarded his privacy fiercely but whose death ignited a global outpouring of grief and tribute.

The book reveals Jobs was bullied in school, tried various quirky diets as a teenager, and exhibited early strange behavior such as staring at others without blinking, according to the Associated Press, which said it bought a copy on Thursday, without disclosing how.

In his "60 Minutes" interview, Isaacson confirmed details that had been speculated upon or widely reported, including that Jobs might have been cured of his "slow-growing" cancer had he sought professional treatment sooner, rather than resorting to unconventional means.

Jobs deeply regretted putting off a decision that might have ultimately saved his life, according to Isaacson.

"He tries to treat it with diet. He goes to spiritualists. He goes to various ways of doing it macrobiotically and he doesn't get an operation," Isaacson said in the interview.

"I think that he kind of felt that if you ignore something, if you don't want something to exist, you can have magical thinking," he said. "We talked about this a lot."

Jobs announced in August 2004 that he had undergone surgery to remove a cancerous tumor from his pancreas. In 2008 and 2009 -- as his dwindling weight stirred increasing alarm in Silicon Valley and on Wall Street -- he said first he was fighting a "common bug," then that he was suffering from a hormone imbalance. In 2009, news emerged that he had undergone a liver transplant.

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Jobs died on October 5 at the age of 56. Outpourings of sympathy swept across the globe as state leaders, business rivals and fans paid their respects to the man who touched the daily lives of countless millions through the Macintosh computer, iPod, iPhone and iPad.

He had never revealed much about his life or thinking -- until he commissioned Isaacson for a biography he hoped would let his children know him better.

The book shed new light on how Jobs' relationship with longtime friend and ex-Apple board member, then-Google Inc CEO Eric Schmidt -- unraveled when the Internet search giant chose to go toe-to-toe with Apple in the smartphone arena.

According to AP's account of the biography, Jobs went on an expletive-laced rant against what he called "grand theft," after Google launched its Android mobile software on phones made by Taiwan's HTC Corp in 2010.

"I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple's $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong," Jobs was cited as saying in the book, according to AP. "I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product. I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this."

Experts say Apple and Samsung Electronic's legal patent battle -- spanning at least three continents -- was really an attack on Google's 3-year-old software, now the world's most-used smartphone operating system.

Details also emerged about Jobs' life away from the world of business, which by all accounts had consumed most of his time.

Adopted as a baby by a family in Silicon Valley, Jobs met his biological father -- Abdulfattah "John" Jandali -- several times in the 1980s without realizing who he was, according to Isaacson.

Jandali had been running a restaurant in the area at the time. But Jobs never got in touch with Jandali once he found out the restaurateur was his biological father, according to an excerpt from the TV interview posted on CBS' website.

The technology icon also revealed he stopped going to church at age 13 after he saw starving children on the cover of Life Magazine, the AP cited the book as saying.

Jobs spent years studying Zen Buddhism and has famously traveled through India in search of spiritual guidance.

He talked in his biography about his love for design and called Apple's design chief Jonathan Ive his "spiritual partner"; Ive had "more operation power" at Apple than anyone besides Jobs himself, according to AP.

Jobs, who counted The Beatles among his favorites, came up with the name of his iconic company while on one of his "fruitarian diets." He had just returned from an apple farm and thought the moniker was "fun, spirited and not intimidating," AP cited the biography as saying.
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Jobs-refused-cancer-treatment-rb-3660272306.html?x=0

Wow.
 
its hilarious to see people here say 'oh now this statement makes me think less of him'. WHAT? he is a CEO, a brutal CEO whose success bore in his brash nature of calling it like he felt it, he was emotional about the company he created and the brands he created.
 
bbagwell said:
It's called killer instinct, and it is a required trait to be a superior business person. He had it, used it and went out on top.

It's a shame that he didn't get more time to innovate and continue to change people's lives through the blend of technology and art.

Can't wait to read the book.
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I actually can't tell apple fans from people parodying apple fans anymore.



B!TCH said:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Jobs-refused-cancer-treatment-rb-3660272306.html?x=0

Wow.
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I thought everyone knew this? The fact that he spent nearly a year on "Alternative medicine" is even mentioned on his wiki page.
 
Sharp said:
As much as I like to hate on Jobs, pretty much all competitive business owners talk like this about their competition, if only in private.
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People should read up on 90s era Bill Gates. Absolutely ruthless. And that's why I love him.
 
ThoseDeafMutes said:
I actually can't tell apple fans from people parodying apple fans anymore.






I thought everyone knew this? The fact that he spent nearly a year on "Alternative medicine" is even mentioned on his wiki page.
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No, I'm not "wowing" at that. Read the article and what it says about Jony Ive for example.
 
Everyone but Apple benefits when other companies steal its ideas and sell competing products. He may be an inspiring public figure for many, but there's no way to romanticize this aspect of Steve's personality, even if he was just doing what any smart and self-interested guy would do in his position.
 
The OP quotes are kind of what I expected from him and most other CEO's. Extremely dumb stuff but not one bit surprising.

BrettXNA said:
What a jackass.
The day he died was a great day.
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That's the kind of thing you shouldn't post, ever really but especially not when you are a junior.
 
crazy monkey said:
he was so spiritual he did not do surgery? why wtf
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One of my coworkers, an incredibly smart programmer who's come here after creating and selling multiple businesses, was recently diagnosed with a congenital heart defect and told to take medication. He isn't. Instead, he's going after a concoction of herbs and homeopathic remedies. He's not even religious. Sometimes, really smart people are really dumb when it comes to their health.
 
WoodenLung said:

That's the kind of thing you shouldn't post, ever really but especially not when you are a junior.
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if that's how he really feels, he might as well post it now to save us from years of future passive-aggressive posting and shitting up of threads.
 
First look at Android beta was quite interesting. A true pre-iPhone smartphone.

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It's funny how they managed to see the iPhone and it's revolutionary touch interface, and decided to completely change their OS.

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You can't argue that the modern Android interface is closer to the iPhone than it's original vision. It's a great platform, but they certainly were "inspired" by the iPhone.
 
Sharp said:
One of my coworkers, an incredibly smart programmer who's come here after creating and selling multiple businesses, was recently diagnosed with a congenital heart defect and told to take medication. He isn't. Instead, he's going after a concoction of herbs and homeopathic remedies. He's not even religious. Sometimes, really smart people are really dumb when it comes to their health.
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Also, I think people get really, really scared of (a) major surgery and (b) chemotherapy. For good reason, too, because they both SERIOUSLY suck. That fear isn't enough to logically justify basically killing yourself with unproven treatments that won't actually cure you, but it goes a long way toward explaining why people pursue alternative medicine when they've got cancer, as stupid as that is.
 
Not surprising, it's always been like this. Apple tried to sue Microsoft because they wanted to be the only company allowed to use GUIs despite the basic concept in no way being their idea.
 
I just like the phrase "Go thermonuclear war on it"

And the idea of him brooding in Cupertino with $40 billion in cash sitting around him pondering how to strike at the heat of Google makes me chuckle.
 
Goya said:
Everyone but Apple benefits when other companies steal its ideas and sell competing products. He may be an inspiring public figure for many, but there's no way to romanticize this aspect of Steve's personality, even if he was just doing what any smart and self-interested guy would do in his position.
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I truly believe the world woud be a better place if people just accepted that everything at its core, is motivated by its own self-interests. People complaining about Steve Job's position on the matter are behaving as if Google is an altruistic entity that exists for the "good of everyone."
 
More Fun To Compute said:
Not surprising, it's always been like this. Apple tried to sue Microsoft because they wanted to be the only company allowed to use GUIs despite the basic concept in no way being their idea.
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If only Xerox had ever gotten into the business of creating anything but tech demos and copiers we might be looking at a very different software landscape today.
 
Ummmm Steve...... you failed. :)

So, spend every breath destroying Android, then have someone write my biography so my kids will know me?

And this is the Apple fanboy hero?
 
Kurdel said:
First look at Android beta was quite interesting. A true pre-iPhone smartphone.

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[IMG]http://www.mobile-review.com/soft/2007/image/android/15.jpg[IMG]

It's funny how they managed to see the iPhone and it's revolutionary touch interface, and decided to completely change their OS.

[IMG]http://images.askmen.com/entertainment/gadget/htc-dream-t-mobile-g1_1.jpg[IMG]

[IMG]http://www.telefonino.net/new_files/images/global/HTC-Dream_39667_1.jpg[IMG]

You can't argue that the modern Android interface is closer to the iPhone than it's original vision. It's a great platform, but they certainly were "inspired" by the iPhone.[/QUOTE]

It's not really a secret that they were inspired by the iPhone. The iPhone is also built on XNU (inspired by Unix), Objective-C (inspired by C and Smalltalk), other phones (which Apple didn't event) etc. The iPod was also inspired by the Nomad and the Walkman. The Mac was not the first personal computer either.

It's how the computer world moves around. Apple was happy to build and improve on existing technology, they just don't like when others do the same.
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planar1280 said:
its hilarious to see people here say 'oh now this statement makes me think less of him'. WHAT? he is a CEO, a brutal CEO whose success bore in his brash nature of calling it like he felt it, he was emotional about the company he created and the brands he created.
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so in the end, you could say he failed

gonna be great to see android be the future

ALL HAIL GOOGLE
 
Sharp said:
If only Xerox had ever gotten into the business of creating anything but tech demos and copiers we might be looking at a very different software landscape today.
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Someone needs to make an alternate history novel about it.
 
Sharp said:
One of my coworkers, an incredibly smart programmer who's come here after creating and selling multiple businesses, was recently diagnosed with a congenital heart defect and told to take medication. He isn't. Instead, he's going after a concoction of herbs and homeopathic remedies. He's not even religious. Sometimes, really smart people are really dumb when it comes to their health.
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sometimes even smart people are retarded
 
Jobs on Obama,

“You’re headed for a one-term presidency,” he told Obama at the start of their meeting, insisting that the administration needed to be more business-friendly. As an example, Jobs described the ease with which companies can build factories in China compared to the United States, where “regulations and unnecessary costs” make it difficult for them. Jobs also criticized America’s education system, saying it was “crippled by union work rules,” noted Isaacson. “Until the teachers’ unions were broken, there was almost no hope for education reform.” Jobs proposed allowing principals to hire and fire teachers based on merit, that schools stay open until 6 p.m. and that they be open 11 months a year.

Jobs suggested that Obama meet six or seven other CEOs who could express the needs of innovative businesses — but when White House aides added more names to the list, Jobs insisted that it was growing too big and that “he had no intention of coming.” In preparation for the dinner, Jobs exhibited his notorious attention to detail, telling venture capitalist John Doerr that the menu of shrimp, cod and lentil salad was “far too fancy” and objecting to a chocolate truffle dessert. But he was overruled by the White House, which cited the president’s fondness for cream pie. Though Jobs was not that impressed by Obama, later telling Isaacson that his focus on the reasons that things can’t get done “infuriates” him, they kept in touch and talked by phone a few more times. Jobs even offered to help create Obama’s political ads for the 2012 campaign. “He had made the same offer in 2008, but he’d become annoyed when Obama’s strategist David Axelrod wasn’t totally deferential,” writes Isaacson. Jobs later told the author that he wanted to do for Obama what the legendary “morning in America” ads did for Ronald Reagan.
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Sharp said:
If only Xerox had ever gotten into the business of creating anything but tech demos and copiers we might be looking at a very different software landscape today.
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A few GUIs were born around the same time as Macintosh because the practicalities of their implementations are tied to certain CPU features. The Motorola 68000 chip was a bit revolutionary when it became cheap enough for more than expensive workstations.
 
he told Obama at the start of their meeting, insisting that the administration needed to be more business-friendly.
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so basically Steve Jobs made obama corporatist

quick someone tell the occupy movement so they can dump their macs

As an example, Jobs described the ease with which companies can build factories in China compared to the United States, where “regulations and unnecessary costs” make it difficult for them.
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those poor companies and their regulations

Jobs also criticized America’s education system, saying it was “crippled by union work rules
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lol
 
Sharp said:
As much as I like to hate on Jobs, pretty much all competitive business owners talk like this about their competition, if only in private.
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Get out of here with that common sense logical thinking! No one talks about destroying the competition in the business world. Everyone wants harmony and peace, and they're happy and grateful when the competition apes their design ideas and products. It's just better for consumers to have more choices, even if the choices are hack job replicas of the original!
 
Jobs was definitely a better visionary/salesman than Gates, but this is why Gates was the better businessman.

Gates didn't just talk about killing his competition, he would actually go out and put them down. If Gates was in charge of Apple he would have destroyed Android the same way he destroyed Netscape. It is probably a good thing for the tech industry in general (but bad for MS shareholders) that he is using his genius for humanitarian causes now.
 
I thought that the comments to Obama from this were fascinating... ANd also sort of reveal a lot of Jobs' megalomania, like refusing to have lunch with the president unless Obama personally asked him.
 
bionic77 said:
Jobs was definitely a better visionary/salesman than Gates, but this is why Gates was the better businessman.

Gates didn't just talk about killing his competition, he would actually go out and put them down. If Gates was in charge of Apple he would have destroyed Android the same way he destroyed Netscape. It is probably a good thing for the tech industry in general (but bad for MS shareholders) that he is using his genius for humanitarian causes now.
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let's hope he isn't using his genius for subverting the white house for corporate interests like jobs
 
Kurdel said:
You can't argue that the modern Android interface is closer to the iPhone than it's original vision. It's a great platform, but they certainly were "inspired" by the iPhone.
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Sure, every touch interface after iPhone was in some way inspired by what it did. But saying they are outright stealing the ideas is a stretch. After iPhone launched it was necessary for any mobile OS to go the touch interface route.

Android at least in the last year I have been using it has got a lot of features iPhone doesn't have. So now if iPhone gets widgets does it mean they stole it from Android?

And no one can say Apple has never been inspired something others did...

At the end of the day, Jobs did great work at Apple, visionary and all that. He was also big Narcissist and a classic example of one and that is NOT a good thing.
 
Jenga said:
let's hope he isn't using his genius for subverting the white house for corporate interests like jobs
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Billg used his position to ask Obama to spend more helping the vulnerable. What a bastard, always trying to make Jobs and Apple look bad.
 
cartoon_soldier said:
Sure, every touch interface after iPhone was in some way inspired by what it did. But saying they are outright stealing the ideas is a stretch. After iPhone launched it was necessary for any mobile OS to go the touch interface route.

Android at least in the last year I have been using it has got a lot of features iPhone doesn't have. So now if iPhone gets widgets does it mean they stole it from Android?

And no one can say Apple has never been inspired something others did...

At the end of the day, Jobs did great work at Apple, visionary and all that. He was also big Narcissist and a classic example of one and that is NOT a good thing.
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The main innovation came from Apple, but Apple totally ripped off Google's notifications and it looks like Google just ripped off the social networking stuff from Windows Phone in ICS.

I think what annoyed Jobs more than the fact that Google ripped it off was that it worked and they got it together so quickly. He didn't want a repeat of Windows vs. Mac (which may happen anyways).

Jenga said:
let's hope he isn't using his genius for subverting the white house for corporate interests like jobs
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Sadly corporations control this country. You have to be naive to think that this phenomenon is limited to just Apple.
 
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